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Mushrooms as Aliens
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I wanted to see what other members of this site thought about the following text from Terence McKenna's book "Psilocybin: The Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide"

The introduction to this book (of which I own a copy--thankfully!) claims that the mushroom is more than a visionary drug--but an extra-terrestrial being that came here eons ago via space "drifting"...

Here is the text of what the mushroom told Terence McKenna:

"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life. The mushroom which you see is the part of my body given to sex thrills and sun bathing, my true body is a fine network of fibers growing through the soil. These networks may cover acres and may have far more connections that the number in a human brain. My mycelial network is nearly immortal, only the sudden toxification of a planet or the explosion of its parent star can wipe me out. By means impossible to explain because of certain misconceptions in your model of reality all my mycelial networks in the galaxy are in hyperlight communication across space and time. The mycelial body is as fragile as a spider's web but the collective hypermind and memory is a vast historical archive of the career of evolving intelligence on many worlds in our spiral star swarm. Space, you see, is a vast ocean to those hardy life forms that have the ability to reproduce from spores, for spores are covered with the hardest organic substance known. Across the aeons of time and space drift many spore-forming life-forms in suspended animation for millions of years until contact is made with a suitable environment. Few such species are minded, only myself and my recently evolved near relatives have achieved the hyper-communication mode and memory capacity that makes us leading members in the community of galactic intelligence. How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds. You as an individual and man as a species are on the brink of the formation of a symbiotic relationship with my genetic material that will eventually carry humanity and earth into the galactic mainstream of the higher civilizations.

Since it is not easy for you to recognize other varieties of intelligence around you, your most advanced theories of politics and society have advanced only as far as the notion of collectivism. But beyond the cohesion of the members of a species into a single social organism there lie richer and even more baroque evolutionary possibilities. Symbiosis is one of these. Symbiosis is a relation of mutual dependence and positive benefits for both of the species involved. Symbiotic relationships between myself and civilized forms of higher animals have been established many times and in many places throughout the long ages of my development. These relationships have been mutually useful; within my memory is the knowledge of hyperlight drive ships and how to build them. I will trade this knowledge for a free ticket to new worlds around suns younger and more stable than your own. To secure an eternal existence down the long river of cosmic time I again and again offer this agreement to higher beings and thereby have spread throughout the galaxy over the long millennia. A mycelial network has no organs to move the world, no hands; but higher animals with manipulative abilities can become partners with the star knowledge within me and if they act in good faith, return both themselves and their humble mushroom teacher to the million worlds all citizens of our starswarm are heir to."

Thoughts?

I mean, duh plants/seeds might live/endure beyond the human lifespan...

Are aliens around us all the time? Are we so ignorant in our daily mindsets that we forget that certain plants might be here on this planet because they landed here?

Lets discuss!!!! Anyone have any issues/thoughts/arguments/agreements?
Thoughts?


Edited by MystikMushroom (01/18/08 08:21 PM)

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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: MystikMushroom]
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My guess it any organism that can go between worlds would be on the run from a malicious AI (which is itself likely engaged in a desperate struggle against future entropy). I'd be wondering why it didn't tell us about it. However that is of course, sci-fi theorizing.

Also, how would we know whether or not such an organism would be trustworthy? None of these other civilizations have contacted us at all. That means either they are non-existent, or doing so intentionally--either way is of course suspicious.

Overall though, I wouldn't mind helping some harmless mycelium spread. The very task would be useful in preserving/proving our own moral sensibilities.

A very interesting concept. Sort of reminds me of the xenofungus in Alpha Centauri.


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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: MystikMushroom]
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i was fortunate enough to be able to study mushroom phylogenetics for a university mycology class last year. psilocybin mushrooms are not from space. they evolved from other mushrooms. i assure you this.


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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: wilshire]
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Mushrooms are itself an interesting species...

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Based on the available fossil record, fungi are presumed to have been present in Late Proterozoic (900-570 mya). Terrestrial forms of purported ascomycetes are reported in associations with microarthropods in the Silurian Period (438-408 mya)


http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Fungi&contgroup=Eukaryotes#TOC3

I wonder if spores were able to drift to this pro-planet and take hold..? It interesting to note that at this time "Pangaea" (supercontinent) was around (650 million years ago)...This was in the LATE pre-cambrian eon. . . It's intersting that they don't appear before this very sudden time marker.

From what I have read, the fungi DNA is unquie, I will search and do more research on this lead...

I will check back in later!

Edited by MystikMushroom (03/11/07 12:47 AM)

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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: MystikMushroom]
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I believe it.


I don't know who else has taken notice of this, but in the star wars series the use of hyperdrive and hyperspace is used ALOT. Remember in the second movie of the new trilogy where anakin is looking for his mom and the guy who married her casually mentions "she was collecting mushrooms on the exhaust vents of sumthin sumthin" right before she gets taken by those things... uh, HINT hellllooo

quoted from another thread:
"Lord Yahweh reveals that life on Earth is not the result of random evolution, nor the work of a supernatural 'God'. It is a deliberate creation, using DNA, by a scientifically advanced people who made human beings literally "in their image" -- what one can call "scientific creationism". References to these scientists and their work, as well as to their symbol of infinity, can be found in the ancient texts of many cultures. For example, in Genesis, the Biblical account of Creation, the word "Elohim" has been mistranslated as the singular word God but it is actually a plural word which means "those who came from the sky" and the singular is "Eloha" (also known as "Allah"). Indigenous cultures all over the world remember Gods who came from the sky, including natives of America, Asia, Australia, and Europe."


Anyway i believe george lucas knows all about this and possibly way more.


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Edited by shizznit (03/12/07 10:21 AM)

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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: MystikMushroom]
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Of course this is pretty unlikely. However it is interesting and I do try to entertain ideas without accepting them.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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Why must we assume that aliens are in some kind of humanoid or animal form? Perhaps an advanced species a few billions of years old has mastered the DNA sequencing needed to allow it to appear "however it wants"...

Without any need of engines, spaceships or what-have-you...spores could endlessly drift through space in gas clouds or trapped in comets...one day hoping to eventually make contact with a suitable planet to sustain/germinate them.

When we take into account the expansive age of the universe...

Think about it.

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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: MystikMushroom]
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The seeds of Life. :tripping:



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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: shizznit]
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shizznit said:
I believe it.


I don't know who else has taken notice of this, but in the star wars series the use of hyperdrive and hyperspace is used ALOT. Remember in the second movie of the new trilogy where anakin is looking for his mom and the guy who married her casually mentions "she was collecting mushrooms on the exhaust vents of sumthin sumthin" right before she gets taken by those things... uh, HINT hellllooo

quoted from another thread:
"Lord Yahweh reveals that life on Earth is not the result of random evolution, nor the work of a supernatural 'God'. It is a deliberate creation, using DNA, by a scientifically advanced people who made human beings literally "in their image" -- what one can call "scientific creationism". References to these scientists and their work, as well as to their symbol of infinity, can be found in the ancient texts of many cultures. For example, in Genesis, the Biblical account of Creation, the word "Elohim" has been mistranslated as the singular word God but it is actually a plural word which means "those who came from the sky" and the singular is "Eloha" (also known as "Allah"). Indigenous cultures all over the world remember Gods who came from the sky, including natives of America, Asia, Australia, and Europe."


Anyway i believe george lucas knows all about this and possibly way more.


You do realize that Star Wars is fictional right?


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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: learningtofly]
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Aliens are everywhere in all shapes and forms.

Physical and non-physical. Aware of itself like us, and perhaps unimaginaly more aware.


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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: AlteredAgain]
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that was rad. right on.


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Re: Mushrooms as Aliens [Re: AlteredAgain]
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Imagine that there is an organism much like those that taps people.


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