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The Shadow People
#5255903 - 02/02/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I've had a couple of experiences in my life in which I encountered apparitions that were entirely in sillouhette. One such occurance happened when I was 6 years old, and another happened very recently. This led me to do some searching on the internet, and I've found lots of people talking about this very same phenomenon. They've dubbed them Shadow People. Here is an excerpt of a description here: (link to full story is http://www.iessr.org/shadowstories.htm)
What Are Shadowers / Shadow People?
Shadowers are usually described as some of the following: Darker then Dark (void of light), 5 to 16 ft tall, short thin silouette, red eyes, no eyes, they apear to have no light shine on them or seem to suck light out of the room. Some have what apears to be trench coat and hat but only the silouette in black of this. They can take at times take on any form they wish, inlcuding people you may know (very temporarily).
They seem to be able to promote a deep primative fear even without actually visually seeing them as if they can touch your soul, unlike ghosts. They have been know to get physical, threateningly verbal, cause nightmares and cause regular ghosts to flee when they appear. They are very much like psychic vampires, in that they feed off fearful energy produced by humans. They can cause continual nightmares and sleep disturbances. Shadowers seem unaffected by religious items and only seem to disapate on the their own free will or if the one being haunted no longer fears or is not angered (another form of energy drain) by them.
Me again:
I can attest to this primitive terror they instill, and the fact that they're so dark they seem to absorb the light. My question is, has anyone else here had experiences with the Shadow People, and what do you think they are?
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5255913 - 02/02/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sometimes, when I hear people talking about this, I FEEL like I've seen shadow people... but then I remember I was addicted to Asheron's Call for a long time...
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What's that?
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5256014 - 02/02/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your recent experience makes me feel like I should've posted the February Energy report be Fenn for ya. I'll get it up here. Maybe it was in a different one. I'll try to find it.
Lots of people who thought they were done and over with shadow work are being thrown back into it again for even DEEPER clearing. Shadow work is just working to overcome the fear the shadow self can generate in you. It's no fun to go through but its a good feeling when you can overcome it and you end up all the stronger and self empowered for it.
Me too again gliders. Went through the worst of it last week with bad dreams and bad energy drains sucking off me. I didn't see any shadow people though, never have, but I did see those dark energy blobs whizzing by a few times. I know I have been going through more shadow work and got myself sucked up into a black hole and can't wait to get spit out of the other side of the white hole as pure divine light again. Whata washing machine cycle it is.
My dolphin totem left and and of all things an owl came in to take me through the next phase. Once I realized an owl totem was working with me, I started researching it. Oh man, I read this stuff about it last night coming from the dark shadowy realms to take you through its realm in safe passage and out into the other side of it where there is much light and joy. The upside is, you see really clearly with its eyes while you work with it.
Just going to roll with it and get through this passage as quick as possible.
Very TIMELY of you to post about that Gliders. Other may not reply but they may relate and appreciate what you shared.
Don't fear them people. They are a projected reflection of your own shadow self and or if you prefer to separate it from you, see it as that your own shadow self (self that generates fear) drew one to you. Doesn't matter because how you handle it is just the same.
Just remember that you always have control over your mind and heart and soul, even when it doesn't feel or seem that way. Overcome Overcome Overcome with Light and Love and its strength.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5256025 - 02/02/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gliders said: What's that?
It's an MMORPG (massively multiplayer online role-playing game) which happens to feature a variety of enemies that are shadow people...
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5256072 - 02/02/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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When i was young i had a very close freind that would always talk about seeing these enities that you described. He also called them shadow people and he would draw pictures of them, somtimes with red eyes and somtimes without in a atempt to describe them to me. Your description describes them exactly how he described them. First time i have heard somone else mention somthing about the shadow people.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5256249 - 02/02/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dude youhave only one viable option. Go and try to make contact with them.
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my cousin and close friend both have told me experiences with shadow people. i think its just hallucinations of the mind... Come on guys.. aliens, god, ghosts.well maybe aliens,we just never saw them.. i am a very open minded person... i am open to all these crazy ideas... but in my experience.. the people who believe are the people who see them the most. its because the idea was manifested by their mind!
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: danlennon3]
#5256492 - 02/02/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Who knows is right. Thats why people ask questions and share notes and do research.
My daughter saw one a few weeks ago and she NEVER heard anything about "shadow people".
So far I have only seen the little black blobs whiz by when I am feel drained. Last spring, myself and many others were seeing light in the shape of birds wizz by. That was cool.
Here's the thing, a human or other worldly being can't make you feel fear if you stay centered in unconditional eternal love to blocking out of all else. Neither can drain you of energy in that state of being either.
People can vamp energy off you to give themselves a boost by instilling fear in you, angering you, frustrating, shaming, rejecting, denying, or confusing you.
I believe most people who go to vamp it and those who let others take it do so subconsciously as a product of learned behavior and not knowing the underlying dynamic at play.
Someone who isn't self sourcing energy from the heart or who moved out of the heart place has to pull energy from others to feel vitalized. Thats why we feel so drained around negative mental people and don;t even realize whats going on until we feel the drain on us.
Just remember that we control our minds hearts and souls at all times. If we move pack into our heart place and self source from love, we can reboost ourselves and even have more to give in a loving manor to those in need, instead of feeding them to get a lift through being in a negative leaking emotional state ourselves.
There's a nother type of parasitic energy vamping that goes on which has nothing to do with another person or other worldly being trying to suck energy off of ya.
People self parasite when all on their own they get caught up into negative self talk and thinking thought loop patterns. When they put themselves down, fear they are not good enough, deny themselves of joy, reject parts of themselves they don't like, drown in guilt, or resentment and grudges ect, they become self parasitic and often, they run themselves so low on vital energy, they end up dis-eased.
Its important to watch out for it and take advantage of opportunities to master staying in the heart place and being able to self source and not fall prey to negative mental drains.
Its easier then it sounds to stay in love and in the heart place and self sourcing 25/7. It makes it easier if we keep reminding each other. Some thought loops are hard to break out of but it can be done and vital beingness can be restored.
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When I first encountered these guys, I wondered if it was my own shadow self as well. Perhaps it is, in a way.
Also interesting you mention working with Owl. A few years ago, I was visited in the dream state by a tall character I called the Owl Man. In the dream, he's asked when I was going to face him. I ran away. This latest shadow, I told it I was ready to face it, and it looked like the outline of the Owl Man. I also wondered afterward if it was the spirit of Ayahuasca, even.
Truth is, I just don't know and I might not ever know. I still think it's interesting that so many others are experiencing it too.
I would be very interested in seeing the February energy report, for sure!
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5256880 - 02/02/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I posted one of them I came across recently, but it wasn't the one that discussed more shadow work coming up for people who thought they were long done with it. I can't remember where I read that one to go get it.
An owl man huh? Thank "Gad" I don't see figures in rooms when I am awake. That would freak me out. I know many who do-some beautiful and some not. I just get imagery off of intuitive feelings when I'm awake. Thats fine enough by me for now.
Working with animals totems is pretty cool. I use to laugh at that stuff and didn't understand experientially how it worked when I heard people talking about it or read shaman stuff.(my own ignorance)
Last fall, I started having a lot of dreams with dolpins in them. Most had to do with being at Andromedean dolphin and whale consciousness concil meetings. Far out stuff. I wish I remembered more of what was going on at them when I woke up. I was moved to get a dolphin avatar and just felt extra joyful, loving and playful.
Some time a little later, I read an energy report that said, those of us who havn't already been working with animal totems will begin too. I figured that must have been what was going on. It's like their nature of energy and what they are good at becomes a HUGE influence on you and they act like intuitive guides of sorts taking you through their realms, like the dophin does the water realms of the emotion of Love and fluid play.
Then a few weeks back, that joyful, loving, playful energy just tanked and I got out of character serious and started staying up all night, very alert. I did some meditating on what was going on with the change and finally intuited an owl totem had come unto the seen. I reasearched it and it seemed to fit the changes I was going through. Like I said, I'm rolling with it, curious to see where the owl takes me and what it can show me.
Life is so trippy 
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: WONKA]
#5257057 - 02/02/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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How old was your friend at the time?
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Yeah, owl is all about seeing in the darkness, being un-foolable (if I may make up my own word here!), and traveling in worlds beyond. Pretty cool, actually. After the Owl Man came after me in the dream (he was accompanied by an owl on a T-shaped post, parallel to hte ground with closed eyes to the sky), things began to get clearer for me. Then later I dreamt of having a baby owl of my own, so I thougth I must have made peace with the energy. Strange, huh?
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5257170 - 02/02/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats neat, you gave birth to a baby owl. I bet that was symbolic of you giving birth to your own owl energy. 
Now I want a dream where I have a baby dolphin I got jipped! Perhaps it is still gestating in me. 
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You're still young! There may be time for you to birth a dolphin yet!
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5258678 - 02/03/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have experienced these creatures while under the influence of mushrooms. Like you said, darker than dark, instilling primal fear.
I have also experienced apparitions of pure white light, dispelling the darkness, instilling profound peacefulness and comfort.
I believe these are angels and demons. The dark ones have no true power, but they tempt toward fear and hatred. They are the little dark ones who point to something other than the Bright Spot, often that other is the self.
I hope that's not too cryptic; if I tried to explain it in more detail, I think I would loose something in translation.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: shroomydan]
#5259286 - 02/03/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, I think I know exactly what you mean. The dark ones point to self, as in, they get their power from the corresponding darkness inside us, which they quicken by arousing fear/anger/hatred inside of us? That's the feeling I get, anyway.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5259444 - 02/03/06 02:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think they have something to do with God.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: theuser]
#5259595 - 02/03/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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When i was twelve i saw a shadow person. it was the scariest thing ever. i was traumatized for 5 months and carried a cross around my neck and im not even christian... i was constantly on edge after that, it happend when i was standing in my kitchen then i looked down the hall and it came out of the bathroom, it was all sketchy like. and it felt like it was piercing my soul and i was so scared that my chest felt like i was having a heart attack or sumthin i had trouble yelling out i was so scared. when i was finally able to yell it scared the crap out of everyone in the house just cuz it was like a scream of terror. sadly it scared me so bad i cryed for like 15 minutes... I didnt find out till recently that other people had seen these things so i looked em up and found out about em. pretty fuckin creepy and it wasnt the first time ive ever seen anything like that... pretty damn trippy.
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The qestion I have for all of you who had this encounters, did any of you had more contact with them? I mean had THEY tryed to have anyking of contact with you,or were they just passing through?
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One reached around from behind me and tried to grab my shoulder, when i turned around he has gone, but another one (like a small animal) scurried across the hall behind me. I was tripping really hard at the time, but there is something about the profound darkness of the demons which makes you know they are real. Yes, they were fucking with me.
I had the most intense fear that they were going to fly into my eyes and possess me.
They feed on the fear, but you cannot defeat them by turning the fear into anger. I believe that prayer is the only way to defeat them.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: shroomydan]
#5260309 - 02/03/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seems to be. And well at least you know for sure that they can't hurt in some other ways,others than making you feel fear.
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They weren't so much "passing through," or trying to make contact as they were just watching/ creeping me out. The first one just pointed his finger or a gun at me, and I was too scared and young to try to open lines of communications. The second one I did attempt to dialogue with, but it went away then.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: shroomydan]
#5260345 - 02/03/06 07:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, anger and violence feed them as much as fear. I definitely believe that. From what I understand, having a prayerful attitude and having "no doubt" that you can get rid of them is what it takes. This from Heidi Hollis, the expert on Shadow People. She wrote a book called "The Secret War."
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Embracing Shadows... interesting name given the thread!
Isn't it strange the amount of dread and fear these things can generate? It's more than just fear of the unknown, or even fear of the known. I'ts bone-chilling fear.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5261108 - 02/03/06 10:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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My Lady was born and raised in London, England til she went to live with her grandmother in Jamaica at the age of 7. She used to sit and play on a large veranda with a railing around it. Sometimes, out of a mango tree, there descended (according to her report), tall, top-hatted, dark cloaked 'beings' who would walk past her on the veranda and enter the house. When she pursued, they were gone. She never saw their faces and she never felt fear, only curiosity. Jamaicans call these types of 'beings' Duppies. When she got a bit older, she stopped seeing them.
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I've seen one of these guys before during a mushroom trip. I was just chilling in my car listening to music, and out of the corner of my eye I saw a tall and skinny dark figure besides my car, almost like it was creeping up on me. But as I turned to look at it directly, it disappeared. Pretty scary...I had never heard of any such thing before that day.
This has been vaguely discussed before I remember http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum11&Number=3164253&
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5262181 - 02/04/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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there was a time period of my life when i would see shadow people at about the same time every night...i had one expirience where the shadow forcefully reached out and clutched my arm, another that poked the back of my head. that was intense to say teh least. but after a while i decided i would no longer be afraid, no matter what. and i havent seen them since.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5266006 - 02/05/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've never heard of this phenomenon before today, but I did encounter what is here called the Shadow people once a couple of years ago. I happened like this;
I was walking my dog in the nearby forest and my mother was walking behind me at a slower pace. The rain has just stopped ten or twenty minutes ago and the air was fresh. Suddenly my dog ran away from me and out off nowhere a rather tall 'man' appeared some 30 meters in front of me, walking straight towards me in a fast and decisive tempo. What was strange in his walk was that it was sort of 'mechanic' like. You know, when you see someone walking, you can notice that every move he makes is slightly different from the previous one, but this guy was just repeating the same moves over and over again like his hands and body posture were fixed. Anyway, as he got closer I looked under his hoot (he was wearing a yellow raincoat) there was nothing there! And not just nothing, it was like a Void sucking in all the light! It was really, really strange I tell you. And he was just walking like I wasn't even there. Like he didn't even notice me.
Now if I was alone, I would of thought I was having an LSD flashback or something but seconds later my mother came running to me, saying in a frightened voice 'did you see it!?', 'did you see it!?". After that I've called my dog and got the hell out of there and not just because it started to rain and thunder again.
Later on I've talked to some people in my community and to my surprise some of them even saw 'it' on couple of occasions right next to their homes.
That was 6 or 7 years ago and I've never encountered anything like that before or after that.
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Did the thing the other people saw also wear the coat with a hood? If so, I guess it could only come out when it was raining?
Did it inspire this deep terror in you, and not just because it looked strange? That seems to be another hallmark of these people.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5267640 - 02/05/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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this is very strange. I remember when I was a kid I would have intense night terrors every single night. I would wake up and I just remember the incredibly intense fear that I felt. I have never seen these shadow people, although i had a wild imagination and always thought that my chair and things hanging off my door handle and things like that might have been monsters in the dark. However, one night I got so fed up with all the nightmares and constant terror that I prayed to God and just kept praying until I fell asleep, and from then on I have not had more than two or three nightmares. True story
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Again, that corroborates what Heidi Hollis says about the matter. Something about constant prayer. I wonder if this is a result of the prayer itself, or if it's a tool to keep from feeling the fear?
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
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Gliders said: Did it inspire this deep terror in you, and not just because it looked strange? That seems to be another hallmark of these people.
I was afraid, but not terrified. What got me into a defensive mode at first was the way 'he' walked. Straight towards me, with fast and decisive tempo, like he was preparing to fight, but when he passed me and I've looked inside the hood all I was left in was surprise, shock, fear and intrigue. He didn't even seem to notice me or if he did, didn't look like he cared much.
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it has already been stated that these beings have a similar kind of intrigue that we do in our daily doings. I think, we are more potent then we realize whenever we are 'in the middle' of something, like trying to sleep, or pay attention to our diner, or work. it's at these times i think we allow our mental motor mouth to run; similar to what psychologists refer to as free association. anyways, when we harbor fear (i.e. ignorance) towards something what happens? we loose sight of certain criteria- like the fact that you shouldn't fear a nonphysical being if you yourself are physical, and are aware of their presence. i suppose that's the most important thing about encounters with nonphysical being; 1) don't ignore what you saw, at least until there is some real leary examination 2) keep in touch with the immaterial as you ask questions of it and about it, and what i find to be the MOST helpful-- 3) refer to somewhere/one who knows a lick about it. These are just tips from my personal experience, perhaps yours differ.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: TheQueen]
#5283299 - 02/09/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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They are what demons (probably) look like on this plane. The more powerful the demon the more real it is. The reason ghosts flee is the demons will take them back to the shadow. Never listen to what they say, do not pay attention to them at all. They WANT you to. They will deceive you as much as they can and trick you. If they appear turn away cover your ears close your eyes and pray to whatever you believe in. Scream the prayers if you have to. They WANT your soul. They will do anything say anything they can to achieve this. They are severely limited in what they can do and you do not HAVE to fear them, they are trying to scare you into doing what they want. Once they know you aren't going to let them they will give up and leave. If you see any of these I would grab a priest or shaman or whatnot and purify the room. You never know what is under your home...
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Dmonikal]
#5283384 - 02/09/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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For instance my parents house is next to a ravine in which animals simply refuse to live. There are no mushrooms, no frogs, not any sign of things that SHOULD be living there, since it is a wilderness area. I once found the skeleton of a bear or very large similar boned animal down there. There is something quite evil there. You can sense it, quite strongly. Always watching. I will not go down there at night. I have been there at night with people who swear they saw someone watching them. The filth of human pollution wallows in there. Garbage and motor oil and hog fuel. I once tried to clean it up, dug up the stream, did my best to try and clean it up. Horrid smelling biological goop, that is hopeless to clean up because it just keeps coming back in spite of the oil slick. I actually cried last time I looked down there at that rusty grill that the stream feeds out of. This stream flows directly into a salmon bearing river. It is like all the evil of this town has coagulated down there and channels darkness.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Dmonikal]
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Very similar take to what I have been reading lately... This is probably why they conjure up that feeling of sheer terror like they do.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Dmonikal]
#5283764 - 02/09/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is a prayer invoking the protection of the the Archangel Michael, who tradition holds let the army of God's angels in the fight against Satan and his angels.
Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host - by the Divine Power of God - cast into hell, Satan and all the evil spirits, who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
This prayer is effective against these "shadow people".
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5284138 - 02/09/06 11:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Has anybody had an encounter with such beings during an episode of Sleep Paralysis, or are those different entities? I cannot say I've seen a Shadow Person at any other time, except during my one episode of sleep paralysis. The presence of an unidentified, unusually dark figure in my peripheral vision while my body was paralyzed was an incredibly frightening experience. After a few seconds of panic I snapped out it, was able to move my head around and noticed nothing else was in the room. Unnerving to say the least. (and only now do I realize I missed a potential OBE experience by freaking out, damn!)
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5284306 - 02/10/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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the only times ive ever seen them was after staying up for a few days on a meth binge.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: TheDude]
#5284823 - 02/10/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have. In fact, that's another common association with them. In my case I was in the middle of dreaming when I became paralyzed and terrified for no reason. Suddenly on the ceiling I could see a large shadow, shaped like an ironing board. The harder I tried to move, the more paralyzed I was. Finally I was able to move a little finger, and I woke up. It was a horrible experience.
As for having OBE's during sleep paralysis, I've never been able to do that either. Tried, though!
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And here we go again, wrestler.... I JUST finished reading a random forum in which people were discussing the link between the Shadow People and meth use! Apparently many users experience this (although I'm not a user of meth myself). One person even wondered whether chemicals have allies just as plants do, but with chemical allies being dark and evil. Interesting, huh?
One guy said he used to hold entire converesations with Shadows on meth. What was your experience like?
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5285107 - 02/10/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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These "shadow people" that you talk about are seen by a lot of ppl that go long periods without sleep, due to what ever reason. Mostly the use of meth or speed. They are as simple as dillusions (evil hallucinations). Seems like you guys have different experiences with these things though.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: pipeDream]
#5285375 - 02/10/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have also encountered them during sleep paralysis/night terrors.
When I have seen them during the night terror, they are usually accompanied by moving/shaking bed and/or a terrible sense of darkness. The darkness is difficult to describe. Once I woke up in my room and the only light was from a small florescent tube over my sink, but the ballast had gone bad and the light was incredibly faint. I could see, but I almost couldn't; that is like the darkness in a night terror. One of my ex-girlfriends talked about having dreams where "everything had a dark outline".
Since I have learned to pray while dreaming, the night terrors have become rare, and when they do occur, I recover from them quickly. It helps to have a mantra. I was given one by a priest several years ago; it is very powerful. If anybody wants to know it PM me and I will share it with you.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
#5289489 - 02/11/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, most of my encounters with them were pretty brief. mostly just seeing them fly by out of the corner of my eye, or circling around over me as i lay in my bed trying to sleep. never really gave them much thought past sleep dep hallucinations, still dont....although this is quite an interesting thread.
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Fear often accompanies a feeling in the stomach and maybe some strain against it. Often the fear was actually caused through physiological conditions.
Yes, one must first ask, what is the purpose of these visions and do they acheive anything?
Warm Tea.
Maybe a shadow person is a momentary flicker of personal unawareness anthropomorphised into a recognizable form. What else is death to the living but unawareness. So maybe you are afraid of death. Most people are. It's better to see your fears and deal with them then to hide from them and let them drive you.
Castaneda purported that the very nature of life was very ferocious always bombarding one with energy that tried to get into the stomach area, and all people had natural resistance until they started to get sick or die. But I would take it with a grain of garam masala.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: eve69]
#5323357 - 02/21/06 09:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Could it be simply a manifestation of Jung's shadow archetype? All that shit we don't want to look at, the parts of ourselves we try to ignore or hide from suddenly made visible.
I think we are being confronted with our shadows on an individual and collective level at this time.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Revelation]
#5325661 - 02/21/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had that same thought, Revelation, but I'm disinclined to believe that's true. If it's the case, it was just a little to "real" seeming. I couldn't be wrong.
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gettinjiggywithit said: Here's the thing, a human or other worldly being can't make you feel fear if you stay centered in unconditional eternal love to blocking out of all else. Neither can drain you of energy in that state of being either.
This is very true, and I had not read this report about shadow work until now. It resonates deep...
While in sleep paralysis I have seen shadows and similar and uniformly terrifying apparitions. They evoke primordial fear. It took me a few times to learn that the only way out of this was to RELAX, go into myself, and focus on the heart. I have not let sleep paralysis bother me since and I still get it every now and then. A visualization I use is to imagine myself lying on a beach, eyes closed, and feeling the sun on my face. It always works.
All this reminds me of that quote from Jacob's Ladder:
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Revelation] 1
#12363628 - 04/09/10 06:29 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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bump for relevance.
my friend says she saw a shadowy figure a few years ago... it was about as tall as two people, had smoky outlines and glowing red eyes. it paralyzed her, she looked into the eyes and felt an evil presence and panic. she hasn't been able to sleep in the dark and always leaves the lights on and avoids going out at night. sometimes she feels the presence but doesn't see it.
i've heard a lot about the Hat Man too, anyone got similar stories?
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: deCypher]
#12363768 - 04/09/10 06:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've seen the shadow people a few times after tweaking for 4-5 days, it's weird how the hallucinations act
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Moronicus]
#12366904 - 04/10/10 11:31 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I did not make the connection before, but when I read the OP's post, I was immediately reminded of an experience I had when I was 3 or 4 late at night when I was woken up from a dream. I looked out across the room and saw what I perceived as a bald female shadow person. "She" was making gestures and movements as if she was talking to someone. This was an experience that made such an impact that I remember it to this day. I do remember having a few more experiences with the so-called shadow people, but this one was the longest (perhaps lasting up to a half a minute until I closed me eyes and refused to open them) and most memorable.
Are these "real" entities? I do not know but the experience they leave is certainly one that resonates negatively.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Aeneas]
#12372885 - 04/11/10 01:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had 2 certain encounters with shadow entities when I was 15 and 16, well before I started using psychedelics (so it wasn't any kind of flashback or HPPD or whatever), and two more recent encounters I am unsure of (because they were far in my peripheral vision and only lasted a split second), one of which was in my own home.
The first two encounters were both in a building where later, after my encounters, I was told by a middle aged woman I know that she and her husband saw/felt a ghost one night before many years, which pretty much just confirmed to me that what I saw was genuine because before I was told about the ghost encounter in the same building, on the same floor, I was dismissing what I saw for some kind of mind trick or whatever.
It was my first encounter with the world "beyond" readily observable reality, and sure enough very soon I started getting my first sleep paralysis experiences that lasted for more than a year until I learned to prevent them.
Anyway, both of my two certain encounters were a hat man, completely black (no "eyes") and with rather clearly defined edges. Both times I had it in plain sight for half a second and then it moved out of sight VERY quickly, like a spasm, practically disappeared, it was like I had "startled" it when I noticed it, and I would later notice it in my peripheral vision as if it was lurking.
I also felt presences during sleep paralysis, both in the form of noise that was "alive" (this may or may not be related to the noise most will hear during OBE's) and twice during long SP sessions in the form of a physical presence in my room even though it couldn't see it. And even if I couldn't see it, I *knew* what it looked like, I could "see" it even though I couldn't see it, also completely black, though the SP presence was DIFFERENT from the shadow entities. While the entities were "shadows" in the true sense of the word, the SP presence felt like it was made of a dense black liquid or smoke, and it was clearly malevolent. Actually, the two times I felt the SP presence in this way were the most terrifying moments of my life, a raw, intense fear was being practically externally instilled into me. Shadow entities never felt malevolent, they actually felt apathetic, just silent watchers, only caring about not being noticed. I only had 2 encounters with whatever the sleep paralysis presence is and I thing that's two times more than I would have wanted. I can now prevent sleep paralysis experiences because I can sense when they are about to happen as I lie in bed.
I read a lot about shadow entities after my encounters and there is a general theory consensus that they are "non-human" entities (as in, not spirits of real people), but rather entities that are attracted to or "feed" off negative energy. Sure enough, most were reported during times of stress and emotional turmoil, and on top of that MY OWN encounters were during the hardest times in my life as well, when I was 15-16, and now a few months ago. Anyway, even if they "feed" off it they are not "bad", just might be uncomfortable or a nuisance.
I'll even go as far as to say that I believe they are maybe not actually separate entities that are attracted to negative energy, but may actually be MANIFESTATIONS of negative emotions. You see, the "red eyes" descriptions sound very silly to me, but it would make sense if they are manifestations of people's negative emotions because then they might manifest in a way that the person would imagine something negative, like a black person with a hat and red eyes.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: ROX]
#12373639 - 04/11/10 04:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Around 2006 or 2007 when I was on Ambien I would see shadow figures hiding behind trees.
Once when I was having sleep paralysis I saw such a figure that was about six feet tall and was a very deep black with large, glowing white eyes (not red eyes). It silently laughed at me then moved next to me and held me down. It was quite a terrifying experience. This happened a year or two ago.
I've had several dreams that feel to be the same "entity" only in different forms. It started as an old man with white hair and a beard wearing a top hat dressed in a black suite holding a book and a lantern coming to my door and saying that he was coming to get me. That was the first dream like that. I had several dreams similar, starting in 2005 or 2006. It has gradually gotten less and less human looking and more like the "shadow person" as though that is it's true form.
The most recent dream was less than a year ago. It was quite different from the previous ones. This is the entry I wrote in my dream logs on Sept. 14, 2009:
"I began talking about how there were two sides to everyone. Each decision we made was first argued about by the two sides. My vision changed to show two men who represented these two sides each arguing by contradicting each other ‘Do this!’ ‘No, don’t!’ ‘Yes, do it!’ ‘No, don’t do it!’, etc. I understood then that no decision could truly be made in this manner, but instead the sides must reason with each other.
Then I entered sleep paralysis. I could feel these two parts of me. The negative side on my right, and the positive side on my left. The negative side was a glowing black, and the positive side a glowing white. I was then shown an example of how they interact with each other. I was given a desire to close the door on my closet, but I was too lazy and also had a desire to stay in bed. After arguing for a while, my negative side finally said “okay, I’ll do it”. That side got up, and I could see it move to the closet and back, but I looked and the closet was still open; I realized that it had lied, and I could feel a deep evil and new understanding of this side of me, it was full of deception. For the moment that this side was out of me I was left with only the positive side I could feel a peace with myself but a deep fear was also present because I realized what this other side really was. It was the darkest of all darks, and it wanted the reverse of all that the other side of me wanted. Then I felt myself being overtaken by this negative side. I was filled with fear and I could feel my existence fading away. I felt as though I was dying. I reached an entirely new level of sleep paralysis which I perhaps have only reached once before, if even then. I screamed and then I yelled out “I love you Jesus, I love you God, please help me!” over and over until I felt no more fear, and I began to feel peace replacing the fear; then I woke up."
I'm not sure where the Jesus/God thing came from as I haven't been Christian since I was ten years old... but yeah.
And as for what the "shadow people" are... well isn't it obvious? They are Choronzon.
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wow... rox & of22, thats a lot of detail. thanks for sharing this.
i've recently read about these beings and am still undecided what they actually are but i'm declined to think they are separate entities from another "wavelength" or dimension. i've also heard it being related to the UFO phenomenon. the people i know who have seen them were going through a tough period in their lives but they saw these things while wide awake.
a woman i am friends with is from a line of female healers or "witches". she saw these creatures when she was small and talked to her grandmother about it. she was a known "sensitive" in her community and told her the shadow creatures are forms of collected negative energy and are sent by people who feel envious or angry towards you. some sort of immense negative energy is needed and an egregor or tulpa is created. then the creatures become autonomous and haunt the target person draining them of energy.
her grandmother taught her some prayers to god and said you don't need to be christian or to believe in their god but you really have to mean the prayer itself. visualization also is supposed to help.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Gliders]
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The shadow of self can be a fearful thing.
In my experience they've always been observers.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: TheWolf]
#12374660 - 04/11/10 09:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I see the shadow people whenever I stay up a few days. They're pretty friendly so long as you treat them nicely.
totally not joking BTW
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: TheWolf]
#12376537 - 04/12/10 06:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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TheWolf said: In my experience they've always been observers.
Yep, agreed. From my experience and research they aren't malevolent. They're just "there".
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: ROX]
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The unknown can provoke feelings of fear. I've never seen them "act out" in any way other than showing their presence, if that can be considered as such.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: TheWolf]
#12382926 - 04/13/10 01:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Darkness is a primitive fear instilled in humans since their birth. When we were kids, we might of been scared of the dark or today we are scared of it when there is danger. Like when you're walking through a bad neighborhood worrying about getting jumped, etc.
It is a survival instinct to be afraid of darkness. Fractal patterns and mind tricks are also more apparent in darkness, which is why some people claim to see people, ghosts, or other entities.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: kirix]
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I get the night terror thing. I will wake up halfway and see a shawdowy figure holding onto me sucking my energy then I will wake up screaming.
I don't know why I feel its sucking my energy, its just the impression that I get.
It could of course just be me dreaming but who knows.
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While I didn't read the whole thread, I did read the first few then just had to post.
I have had three separate incidences with the "shadow people". First, when I has 5 like many kids I had an imaginary friend. I recall naming him "him". What made my experience more unique is that I had just months before suffered a mortal injury. At the age of 4 I was run over by a semi truck in the parking lot of a truck stop. The driver never stopped and I was left alone there for an undetermined time. I am 32 now and I remember every agonizing second and detail. I am also certain I died then. I awoke with purpose and began crawling to my parents truck 50 feet away. I crawled to it, climbed in and woke everyone.
That imaginary friend was not exactly "friendly" and I was often scared of "him".
Jump to age 15 and for a three month period whenever I would walk alone, especially at night, I swore that I was being followed. That culminated into an incident in which I bolted up in my bed one night and let out a scream that my mother described as blood curdling and apparently disturbed her so much that she was frozen in bed.
Jump again to age 19 during one of my first experience with alcohol. I drank most of a bottle of Southern Comfort and apparently blacked out. When I awoke in the morning my friends informed that I had at one point bolted up from my chair and began running around the room screaming about the shadow people. I have no memory of that incident.
Take what you will from my story, chalk it up to bs if you want to, but there is something more there. Just thought I would share.
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Re: The Shadow People [Re: Fungicide]
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I had never read this thread or heard anything about them when I posted this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11949442#11949442
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