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Re: Drunk Driving Is Bad, Okay Kids? [Re: Silversoul]
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Well obviously I'd do my best to stop him from getting beat silly...but I'm still not going to put myself, him, and everyone else on the road in danger just to do so!

I mean, how shitty would it be that in trying to "save" your friend...you actually get into a wreck and kill him?

You can hate to be my friend if you want...I tend not to hang around with people who turn into drunk assholes at parties anyway (not you, your friend).


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Re: Drunk Driving Is Bad, Okay Kids? [Re: trendal]
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I think you guys are overstating just much danger you're putting people into by getting behind the wheel. It depends on how drunk you are. It's not like I was plastered or anything. And I just got far away enough to get him out of harm's way.


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Re: Drunk Driving Is Bad, Okay Kids? [Re: Silversoul]
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I think you guys are overstating just much danger you're putting people into by getting behind the wheel.

I don't think anyone is overstating it...because there is no true set "limit" to what EVERY person will take before they become dangerous. Some people are dangerous on the road without any alcohol at all. Some people are dangerous after one beer...and some others probably aren't dangerous after 10 beers. It's just too variable to call any set limit.

However a century of evidence STILL remains which indicates that ANY amount of alcohol will have a detrimental affect on driving abilities - how much the abilities are impaired depends on the individual in question and the circumstances...but the facts stand that alcohol decreases motor skills.


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Re: Drunk Driving Is Bad, Okay Kids? [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
because there is no true set "limit" to what EVERY person will take before they become dangerous. Some people are dangerous on the road without any alcohol at all. Some people are dangerous after one beer...and some others probably aren't dangerous after 10 beers. It's just too variable to call any set limit.


Exactly. Everyone's different. And if someone's been drinking and doing drugs for a while, they know what their limits are.

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However a century of evidence STILL remains which indicates that ANY amount of alcohol will have a detrimental affect on driving abilities - how much the abilities are impaired depends on the individual in question and the circumstances...but the facts stand that alcohol decreases motor skills.


Yes, and so does drowsiness, but I still have to go home at night. I just don't think that a small reduction in motor skills is worth the violently hostile reaction I'm getting from some people:

"Fuck you! You had a beer and got behind the wheel! I hope you die motherfucker!"

Seems a bit excessive to me.


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Re: Drunk Driving Is Bad, Okay Kids? [Re: Silversoul]
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"Fuck you! You had a beer and got behind the wheel! I hope you die motherfucker!"

Did someone really say that in here? Point me to their post! They shouldn't be posting in The Pub at all if they can't keep it civil!

You'll never catch me saying that. I'm trying to prevent needless deaths from occuring...so I'm sure as hell not going to wish death on anyone in the process!

People make mistakes. It's part of being human. I only hope that people can learn from those mistakes instead of trying to rationalize them with talk like "well I drove slow and I only had three blocks to go". That's not learning...that's making excuses.


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Re: Drunk Driving Is Bad, Okay Kids? [Re: trendal]
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It's not a direct quote, but it typifies the response of many people here(their replies are not directed at anyone in particular, it doesn't technically count as flaming). The point is that people act like you have to be a total scumbag to get behind the wheel if you're even slightly impaired. But I say that unless you're a racecar driver or are driving in heavy traffic, you don't need your motor skills to be in top shape.


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