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derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr
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even though its obvious the majority of this country supports stem cell research. bush is going to bow to the jesus freaks and use his veto. this is a step back for science.... i hope he gets all the diseases stem cell research could cure all at once and suffers like crazy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060719/ap_o...DMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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70% support it, is what I read.


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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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Republicans also pump out how they love Jesus.  What was one of the main  beliefs of the Christian faith?  Help the poor.


Bush's priorities are :shrug:

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: despisedicon]
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The Republicans are telling Bush to let it pass.


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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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HELLA_TIGHT said:
The Republicans are telling Bush to let it pass.


not all the republicans...just the ones with half a brain. the far conservatives are all on his side, read the article i posted. these fucking disgusting christian family groups, who are just fronts for crazy religous extremism are all with bush. these are the same groups who scream about a tit on tv or preach gay hatered

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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Well either way it's weak. They were 4 votes short of the 2/3's needed.


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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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yeah there are mostly repubs voting against it. they are such out of touch douches. midterm elections, the dems will sweep as long as we can actually get a fair vote. which who knows with all the voting shenanigans they've been doing.

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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The thing that really frustrates me about this is that these embryoes in question are going to get thrown away anyway, so why not use them for some good?


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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: gdman]
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Seriously. Snow said Bush doesn't want to touch the subject because they have to "murder" the cells. They'd rather just let them die, I guess. :shrug:


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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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God forbid anyone should mess up a little cluster of chemical reactions, but it's alright to kill REAL children in Iraq. Yeah...


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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KingOftheThing said:
they are such out of touch douches.


We're not the only ones.
Look Here

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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KingOftheThing said:
yeah there are mostly repubs voting against it. they are such out of touch douches. midterm elections, the dems will sweep as long as we can actually get a fair vote. which who knows with all the voting shenanigans they've been doing.


you need to a different world, because you are so far out of touch with this one

it is so ironic you are a car salesman

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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For a long time, I disliked bush-bashing...

but in the past 2 or 3 years it's just become impossible to ignore it anymore.

He knows he's got a guaranteed job until his term is up, he knows he'll live the rest of his life receiving big pension checks and Secret Service escort/guard, and he's just doing whatever the hell is on his own agenda.

You can see it in his policies, you can see it in the way he's essentially just doing what the party wants, and (in the most comical way) you can see it in his recent brash (some might go so far as to say careless) behavior with other world leaders.

He's really starting to look like a daring old fart who's willing to exploit his tenure.

My guess is that his decision on this isn't primarily influenced by the citizens' opinion, the past seems to have shown that he has a reasonable disregard for public opinion. What I'd estimate is behind his decision is what has been driving his other behavior: his own personal opinions. He applies somewhat extreme christian conservatism to his decisions. Therefore, because of his own personal stand on the matter, he's opposed to this sort of stem cell research.

I've never liked his idea of applying christianity to his leadership. I'm a christian, and I'm all for stem cell research. None of the research conducted in the US has ever cost the life of a viable human... it's always used sources of stem cells whose chances of ever having a life were essentially nil. The benefit of countless people and the furtherment of beneficial science grossly outweighs the totally remote chance that a few embryos may have had to live a life.


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I find your lack of faith disturbing

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: Konnrade]
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The public will remember this when it comes time for the midterm elections. Dems are going to take back seats because of this.


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Yeaaa im still alive.

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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But if you cure diseases then your buddies who own Big Pharm companies don't get assloads of cash for "treating" them! He's just trying to be nice to his friends, guys, give him a chance.....






:suicide:

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: kilroy69]
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kilroy69 said:
The public will remember this when it comes time for the midterm elections. Dems are going to take back seats because of this.


And it still won't make a damn bit of difference. Same shit, different mascot.

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: DNKYD]
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Don't worry, with the way the population is growing, debt is building, and people are shitting, we'll have an all out revolution by 2050.

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: KingOftheThing]
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His stem cell speech was one of the most offensive, propagandic things I have ever heard/saw. Parents with their children, rambling about ethics and human life. His policy seems to be it's only okay to be killed when you're alive.

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: DNKYD]
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DNKYD said:
But if you cure diseases then your buddies who own Big Pharm companies don't get assloads of cash for "treating" them! He's just trying to be nice to his friends, guys, give him a chance....


Thats stupid. Who do you think stands to make a shitload of money from creating vaccines and gene therapy? Dont for a second think that the Pharmaceutical companies are against stem-cell research. Its a pot of fucking gold to them.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: derr i'm bush i love jesus, gonna veto stem cell bill derrrrr [Re: Konnrade]
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I always have this little vision in my head where Jesus comes back. Standard-fare Ted Nugent look-a-like anglo archtype. The skies part and Jesus descends from the heavens whereupon someone explains to him that Dubya is a Christian.

Jesus laughs so hard the sonic shockwave kills everything within a few kilometers.

splif


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