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VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??!
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I just called up home depot to see if they had any in stock, already going to three or four other stores looking for it. I asked the lady if she had any in stock and she said no, they hadn't for three years now, because vermiculite has been deemed carcinogenic. This scares the shit out of me, especially because of how much I have worked with this.

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What else is there to use?


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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depending on the mine, from what I've heard, it _may_ contain asbestos, wich may lead to lung cancer, so it could be carcinogenic....
Have a look here


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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confused with Asbestos?

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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: Eraserhead]
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Alright, alright, than here's my plan-
Any time I work with vermiculite, I'll put on a gas masky thing, go far outside away from all houses, pour my vermiculite in my already mixed brf/water mix, mix it up, pour it in jars, tin foil them, seal up my vermiculite case good and put it somewhere safe and away from people, then return home and wash my hands... boil my jars, etc, I should be fine.

I'm guessing once the mycelium is fully colonized no vermiculite can be released... but wait, I put vermiculite on top of my cakes...

screw this i'm going to

A) Find a replacement for vermiculite
or
B) Start doing WBS grows without casing with vermiculite, i'll just use something else.


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Edited by beatnicknick (07/15/06 10:02 AM)

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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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Not necessary, they shut down that mine long ago, so Ive heard...


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: EquilibriuM]
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I believe it was one isolated mine.
and as said, it was shut down.

not positive, but fairly sure.

something...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4719185


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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BS

This has been hashed over 1001 times right here.

In the 80's, a vermiculite mine in Libby Montana, produced vermiculite, that was tainted with asbestos.

The mine was shut down.

Since then, all vermiculite sold in the USA.

IS TESTED, for asbestos before it can be sold to the public.

Rock, gravel, sand, crushed oyster shell, perlite, horse shit, grains & about every thing in life, could be deemed carcinogenic.

IF YOU USE IT WRONG.

Eat 15 lbs or fill your lungs with a any of the above.

And, it would have an ILL EFFECT.

Just don't eat or breath in any excess amount of it & you are FINE.


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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This topic has been covered before, but here we go again:

Vermiculite is no more dangerous to work with than perlite is. You really shouldn't go inhaling dust particles from anything, vermiculite or not. There is no asbestos in the vermiculite sold anymore. The asbestos rumors float around to this day because of the Libby mine. The Home Depot near me carries vermiculite, so I guess it depends on how up-to-date your local store is. As for carcinogens, I don't know that to be true either, but you should work with a surgical type mask anytime your doing something that kicks up dust. Most hydroponic shops have verm and I remember Pris mentioning that some places that install insulation have it also, so you may want to check that out.

Check out www.vermiculite.com and www.vermiculite.org for more accurate information about vermiculite.


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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I guess these other guys covered it already! I'm at work, so I have to minimize every time the boss comes by :grin:

Bottom line:

DON'T go scaring everyone because some $8 an hour employee at Home Depot told you some false information.


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: FooMan]
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Who cares! I mean anything can cause cancer. I read in the paper not too long ago the scented candles cause lung cancer. I guess in my case it doesn't matter though. I mean I smoke cigarettes so I guess I'm screwed anyway.


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: mMmMmmuShRooM]
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Well actually I'd rather not work with this, just for the fact you have to be careful, and because I have found a replacement for vermiculite. I will still use perlite, because after you dump it in your terrarium, you are done the risky part and you can just keep misting it and you wont have to worry about dust particles ever being swept up and breathed it.

The replacement is crushed up, verm sized pieces of plain popcorn. I had heard about this long ago, from these guys that shipped out mycobags with brf and popcorn and they actually work just fine. Now I'm going to test it out as a casing w/ some peat as well, and I'll tell you all how it goes. Just threw away my vermiculite, going to go buy some plain popcorn kernils from the store in a little.

Wish me luck! If anything, this will be a cool experiment and a money saver (barely though)


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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ive bought verm at home depot.

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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: Yamidude]
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good luck with that popcorn.

:nonono:


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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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I can't believe this topic still gets brought up!~

it really makes me  :mad2:


I have posted at least 50 threads on this subject in great detail over the years.
Do a fucking search for the love of God!~

The Libby mine in Montana was the only Vermiculite mine in the USA that had this problem with Vermiculite containing some asbestos.
It was shut down!~

All Vermiculite mines are tested by the EPA for asbestos now!~

I have contacted the Corp. Offices of Home Depot...
I talked to the mucky muck there and they were very interested in what I told them about Vermiculite.
They told me that if my local Home Depot didn't have the large bags of Verm...
to go to the customer service desk and tell them that I had contacted Corp. and they said they would special order it in for me.
So you can try that.

Last time I ran out of Verm I went to one of my local nurseries and they special ordered it in for me....a (4 cubic ft) bag!~



You can also contact the people at Thermorock that distribute Vermiculite...
and they will help you find someone that sells Verm near you.


Click!~



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Re: VERMICULITE DEEMED CARCINOGENIC?!??! [Re: beatnicknick]
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This thread has been closed.

Reason:
dead horse!~

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