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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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judgement
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Here is a subject that I recently started thinking about...the judgement of others. It is starting to seem to me that this trait is a large waste of our time and energy. It serves no purpose...it does not protect anything but ones ego. I used to see myself as relatively non-judgemental, but thought that the judgements I rendered against others ...good or bad were useful in defining others. I recently came to the realization that defining others is a huge mistake...it is assuming. When one assumes one makes an assessmsnt on information that is possibly erroneous. If one judges one makes a potentially serious error...if one does not then many doors of opportunity are left open. I tried to quit judging myself (I said TRIED) years ago, so why should I continue to judge others? It also ties down the awareness to one point leaving one inflexible. This may seem obvious, but to really take it to heart is a true warriors task.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

Edited by Huehuecoyotl (06/26/06 07:00 AM)

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Re: judgement [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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In a worst case scenario, the innocent man goes to the death chamber from a judge and jury making a wrong judgement. Then the victim's family watches the innocent man die and feels closure. Can we blame the judge, jury and victim's family for feeling justified with their judgment and happy with the justice meted out if the real problem was the cop who planted evidence and lied on the stand?

What shall we make of the man who upon seeing a woman for the first time across the room at a party makes his judgement of her and tells his buddy "I'm going to marry that woman someday" and actually does and they have kids and live happily ever after? Was he a good judge or was there something else at play?


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Anxiety is what you make it.

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Re: judgement [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Why judge?

it's all good, man!


:rolleyes:

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Re: judgement [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I think that there is a difference between making a value judgment (affixing a good/bad label to a person), and applying discernment. While the dictionary includes both modes of thinking in the definition of "judgment," they seem divergent in application.

Example: a serial killer is caught after ritualistically slaughtering 15 people. He declares that he will continue to kill if released, and that his only pleasure in life is found in murdering others.

Discernment of his past actions and present declaration of intention would lead one to arrive at the conclusion that he is not "fit" to wander among the populace. His behavior and cognition are predatory, and all indications are that this will not be altered by anything but a 180 degree shift within himself.

The "judgment" in court declares him guilty of the crimes he is tried for. His sentence could be either death or several consecutive life terms in prison. Others may pass value judgments on him, stating that he is bad, evil, wrong, demonic. The legal judgment, however, states that he is a risk to the rest of the population, and should be incarcerated in order to limit/eliminate that risk.

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Re: judgement [Re: Veritas]
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I think the kind of judgment Hue is speaking of is one in which the judger is utmost affected by his/her negative vibes, and a better alternative would be to just live and let live and raise the octave up to the positive.

As far as value judgments go, I think legal judgments like minimum mandatory sentences are some of the most callous. They leave no room for discernment/discretion. A drug user is labeled a criminal and his punishment is directly proportional to the amount of the illegal substance he/she possesses, ignoring all possible circumstances including potential medicinal users.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: judgement [Re: Veritas]
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You are correct in thinking that I am NOT talking about discernment...but value/moral judgements. I am not talking about "being a better person", but the utilization of personal resources in a pragmatic manner.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: judgement [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Very interesting perspective.

It does seem to me that you might lose some practicality through this path, though it seems to me as well that sacrificing practicality and efficiency in return for impeccability is worthwhile.

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Re: judgement [Re: michael_lifshitz]
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A wonderful insight.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: judgement [Re: CosmicJoke]
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"I think the kind of judgment Hue is speaking of is one in which the judger is utmost affected by his/her negative vibes"

Would not a positive judgement be just as erroneous?


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: judgement [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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We - or someone - is under the delusion that judgement implicates emotion, while not being judgemental represents indifference.

Add to that the fallacy of the expression: "The oposite of love is not hate, its indifference." and we have a perfect logic construct to imprison ourselves with.

Me judge, me love.


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The argent messenger of truth beyond truth, the antithesis of life, cruel and bleak as interstellar space, pulseless and frozen as absolute zero, dazzling with the frost of irrefragable logic and unforgettable fact.

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Re: judgement [Re: slaphappy]
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Ah, finally something I can understand :wink:
I think the same.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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