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Blueing reaction and potency
    #571932 - 03/06/02 09:17 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry if this doesnt belong here, but i recieved no replies in the normal cult.

Well my friend has some mexicubes and TC dudes. The mexicubes tend to grow in large clumps and are thinner and smaller. The TC tend to grow fewer dudes but bigger and fatter. The yields he recieves are about the same.

The TC dudes show a lot more of a staining bluing reaction then the mexicubes do. They both recieve the same amount of handling and are dried in the same method. The mexicubes only have blueing around the base and some aborts are quite blue. The TC dudes show signs of bluing thru most parts of the stems just from drying, they where not damaged.

Question is; are the TC dudes more potent the Mexicubes because they show more bluage??


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: baraka]
    #573013 - 03/07/02 10:28 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

You should try eating both


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: makedrugsfree]
    #573068 - 03/07/02 11:30 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

and then thinking about this


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: CuckoosNest]
    #573398 - 03/06/02 08:38 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

dammit, thanks for the help....


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: baraka]
    #578341 - 03/14/02 12:08 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

See my post about these strains at:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum5&Number=576305&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

Very, VERY nice together......


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: baraka]
    #578365 - 03/14/02 12:44 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Depends on the species. The blueing im sure you know - is due to the oxidisation of psilocin. Species like Liberty Caps have high levels of the more stable psilocybin, and are very potent, but do not stain blue at all due to containing no or nearly no psilocin.
Cubensis, on the other hands usually contains more psilocin than psilocybin (stamets) - so the assumption I have made is that generally, blue staining in cubensis indicates the amount of psilocin being oxidised, and thus potency.
However, some strains, like the mazatapec - stain VERY blue - as much or more than many other domesicated cubensis, yet they seem to be average potency. B+ dont stain very blue (usually) and arent particularly potent.
On the other hand, ecuadors, Treasure Coast and Golden Teachers all stain quite blue quickly and are potent for cubensis in my opinion.


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #578648 - 03/14/02 10:17 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Don't forget to take into account the strength of the fruitbody at resisting oxidation. You could have two species of shrooms that have equal alkaloid content, but the cell structures of one break down easily while the cell structures of the other don't. The one that breaks apart easily will blue quickly, the other wont. All theory, no research to back this up that I am aware of.


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: Seuss]
    #578781 - 03/14/02 12:47 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting. He did a test and he told me that he thought the TCs where more potent in general, but seamed to have a lot more anxiety and fast come ups. Mexicubes seamed to be smoother come up, he just laughed the whole time about everything, and the play on the eyes was about equal.


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Re: Blueing reaction and potency [Re: Seuss]
    #579950 - 03/15/02 05:54 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Good point - I never thought of that - in the words of Robert Plant, 'It makes you wonder'


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