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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: inoculatedGreif]
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use the lemon juice tek.

I don't know why but I get a weird feeling in the stomach from the lemon juice tec. and it really influences the way my trip is. When I'm tripping on lemon juice I always get nausea..I did the lemon juice thing the last 8 times or so. I think I'm just going to make some omelets, with about 12 fresh n' big cubensis mushrooms. And have a little bread with it.  :crazy2: Then smoke 2 joints in a row.

:bigblunt:

If that's not enough then I'll just munch on some more. Put on some infected mushroom and try to let go as much as possible. If I get  the feeling I'm dieing then I'll try to accept it. How does that sound?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

Edited by Mr_Psilocin (05/30/06 03:42 PM)

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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I reached level 4 on 1g of copelandia's. With the lemon juice potentiator, I'm sure to reach 5. Gonna be interesting when I finally do it!!
Peace

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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I agree that an understanding of Buddhism and the practice of meditation will help open the mind to understand and accept a level 5 experience. Since familiarizing myself with Buddhism (or shall I say, since becoming a buddhist) I can easily completely-let-go during a trip to a point where I can completely dissolve all boundaries.

Sometimes if the dose is not high enough I cannot reach a full level of absorption, but the clear meditative state of mind will help me 'work with what I've got'. But with a good dose, some marijuana, and an opened mind you should be able to reach that which you seek.

Without proper understanding and training you may not be able to understand the experience or even realize you are on the brink of a 'level 5'. It is a state that is always there, you just need to learn how to connect with it.

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: Amber_Glow]
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yea, ive hit level 5 im, a pretty young guy but i know how to meditate,and im a little religious it was just funny that i got into meditating not too long before i got into shrooms and ive done a 3g dose before and felt great, but being spiritual i wanted to see if it could help me "find myself" a little more so to speak with a level 5, also i wanted visuals, so on a 6g dry boomer in oj blended up, i would say was the best trip i ever had. i wasnt trying to meditate really, or trying to really find anything, i was just letting it take me where it wanted, and i knew it wouldnt be some place scary n fucked up cuz i had my head cleared, i think the meditation defitilny helps trips , mainly cuz you learn, how even on a normal average day sober or not trippin, to sit back and get in touch with yourself and get all cleared up, even when there can be all kindsa shit goin on you still learn how to relax, if done right i would say its a little bit of a natural high as cheesy as that sounds i always that was bullshit until i started getting good at it, so imagine if your head was all cleared up before a large dose...good times :mushroom2:

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Post deleted by Anno [Re: caboomers]
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Edited by werdnaeroom8 (01/26/07 10:25 AM)

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: ]
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My guess is that it sucked for you because you fought it. Yeah you forget who you are, but who are you? You are everything And you are nothing. This separation is only a temporary illusion, you are infinitely connected.

If you don't know what to feel, JUST FEEL.

If you don't know who you are, JUST BE.


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HELP!!!!!!!!!

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Post deleted by Anno [Re: EquilibriuM]
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Edited by werdnaeroom8 (05/31/06 05:15 AM)

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: ]
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Its like this,



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HELP!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: ]
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werdnaeroom8 said:
It was more like....lets say you take a side on a subject but there is so many other things that coincide on whether which side you take. Its almost having an argument with yourself about yourself but never finding an ending to it.This might be because we as humans are hella complexed. Almost like a thought loop but it makes you stop breathing cause your thinking to hard. but yeah thats why letting everything go would make perfect sense as people said earlier in this thread



EGO-DEATH/LOSS is really fucking scary though. the scariest moment of my life. I think the ego loss can only happened when your trippin by yourself because if your not then you got your mind on the people around you and what the fuck they are doing on this crazy ass psychedelic.


I find it to be an amazing, brilliant, beautiful and exhilarating experience. It's something I've always enjoyed, and always welcome.

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: kaniz]
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EXACTLY  :thumbup:


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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O.k I will try for it then! You guys think 12 big cubensis mushrooms cooked in an omelet will do the trick?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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EquilibriuM said:
Its like this,




That picture freaks me out. :shocked:


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Ill make you eat your parents.

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: Vico]
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maybe ego death/loss is so scary because, u have one, a big one? to much accustomed to it?, no one should have one anyway, it only creates seperation,problems...imagine if u didnt have an ego in the first place, then hit a level 5...everyone sould be able to ejnoy a level 5, hell a level 6 if there was one.... my point is, no one needs an ego, b humble to get the most out of life and shrooms :mushroom2:

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: caboomers]
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Yeah I should defenently do it (get there) once.


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: caboomers]
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caboomers said:
maybe ego death/loss is so scary because, u have one, a big one? to much accustomed to it?, no one should have one anyway, it only creates seperation,problems...imagine if u didnt have an ego in the first place, then hit a level 5...everyone sould be able to ejnoy a level 5, hell a level 6 if there was one.... my point is, no one needs an ego, b humble to get the most out of life and shrooms :mushroom2:


Ego is a survival tool. You want an Ego It is your identity, it is your "I". Your individuality. What you should strive for is a balanced and flexible ego.  :thumbup:


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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ego death is not this tangible thing you are trying to make it be. there is no set of requirements for ego death, and there is no formula for reaching it. depending on your experience as a human you could attain ego death without drug use. or if you are on the other end of the spectrum you could take 30 hits of acid and not hit ego death. you are treating ego death like a whole higher level of "fuckedupedness." its not. its a change in your personal relationship with the world. the mushrooms alone will not get you there, they can only help you on the way. if you honestly think you want this, you should be doing more thinking and reflecting with yourself, and on yourself, that is why people are recommending meditation.

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: sander]
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Yeah I just got started on meditation 3 days ago. It's amazing how much it relaxes you. I think with proper breathing techniques and by not thinking any thoughts. I might get there on a reasonable dose.


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
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EquilibriuM said:
caboomers said:
maybe ego death/loss is so scary because, u have one, a big one? to much accustomed to it?, no one should have one anyway, it only creates seperation,problems...imagine if u didnt have an ego in the first place, then hit a level 5...everyone sould be able to ejnoy a level 5, hell a level 6 if there was one.... my point is, no one needs an ego, b humble to get the most out of life and shrooms :mushroom2:


Ego is a survival tool. You want an Ego It is your identity, it is your "I". Your individuality. What you should strive for is a balanced and flexible ego.  :thumbup:


yea, i guess i meant superego...u know what i meant, thanks for the clarification tho.

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: sander]
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exactly

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: sander]
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sander said:
ego death is not this tangible thing you are trying to make it be. there is no set of requirements for ego death, and there is no formula for reaching it. depending on your experience as a human you could attain ego death without drug use. or if you are on the other end of the spectrum you could take 30 hits of acid and not hit ego death. you are treating ego death like a whole higher level of "fuckedupedness." its not. its a change in your personal relationship with the world. the mushrooms alone will not get you there, they can only help you on the way. if you honestly think you want this, you should be doing more thinking and reflecting with yourself, and on yourself, that is why people are recommending meditation.


exaclty :thumbup:

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