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OfflineMr_Psilocin
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Reaching "level 5"?
    #5681083 - 05/27/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've been trying to reach ego-loss for quite a while now but even though I eat large quantities of mushrooms I can't seem to trigger ego-loss. Now I've read that it's all about "letting go" but I don't know what that's suppost to mean. Can someone help me out, please? :thumbup:


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5681097 - 05/27/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Ego loss or ego death?

The former, just eat more. You'll soon get to the state where you can no longer tell where your body ends and the environment around you begins.

Ego death, I have no idea.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5681115 - 05/27/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well ego loss isn't that thing when you just don't know who you are or what you feel, ego loss it more about letting go of your pride and seeing life for what it truly is, what is fake and what is real, what is human fabricated and natural.
For example when you realize that things like material stuff, cars, social position, image, fame, etc have really no value, they can't make you really happy or a spiritual person and they're only here more to comfort the ones which can't see happiness in something higher but more subtle to the eye.
And when somebody realizes this, there is only natural for he or she to pose questions about who are we really and what is our essence, questions which strips us of everything that is fake and non-real, and which in this life can be understood of loss.
In my point of view, "ego loss" doesn't mean forgetting who you are, on the contrary, finding your true essence, which most likely had nothing to do whit what we've been taught a human being is. And that's
where the confusion comes from about "not knowing who you are".
It's only up to us if we agree with the true nature of ourselves and us, and if we do, then we have the chance to move on to a higher level.
I hope I had some kind of consequence in my thoughts so I can make myself understood. Hope I could help.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5681179 - 05/27/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh yes I have had that a bunch of times, mushrooms have really helped me solve problems in my life. I geuss I ment ego-"death". so, any tips?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5681196 - 05/27/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well just replace the wors, seriously. :grin:
Meaning that you reach ego death, excepting the time we all die, when you totally and forever forget about thise non-important things in life.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5682974 - 05/28/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My best advice for seeing into your true nature is to learn how to meditate.  The more you do that, the more you will learn to "let go."  And when the time comes in the middle of a psychedelic experience, you'll be ready.  Just feel into your body.  Let yourself be carried away by the cosmic winds.  Like a wave to water, man. 

:heart: Peace :heart:

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #5683057 - 05/28/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

...what?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
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http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5683068 - 05/28/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

- lay down
- close your eyes
- relax
- try and quiet every thought in your head
- focus on your breathing
- any time another idea pops into your head, try and stop it

easier said then done.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: kaniz]
    #5683248 - 05/28/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

put on some nice ambient music, nothing to active and no lyrics (i like MERKABA by tool, but everyone has their preference) put on some headphones or something and lie down and close your eyes...relax...or go to your local buddhist church we have one here in denver i go to every week and they constantly give free meditation classes :smile: they also give very nice talks on what life means and how thought....is?


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: AA2277]
    #5683298 - 05/28/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

O.k I will try that next time, thank you. Are any of you saying meditating makes the trip nicer and stronger?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
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http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5684246 - 05/28/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Does meditating make the trip better or not?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
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http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5684249 - 05/28/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think that is the most constructive way to approach meditation. I don't think that it necessarily makes the trip stronger or "better". I do know that it can help open up your mind to things that would not be accessable by a more closed mind.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #5684310 - 05/28/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Oh, I understand now.


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
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http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5686604 - 05/29/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Try smoking a lot of bud. It worked for me before I even knew what ego death was. Weed is a constant with whatever drug I take but when I'm tripping it elevates me to insane levels.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: kaniz]
    #5686671 - 05/29/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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kaniz said:
- lay down
- close your eyes
- relax
- try and quiet every thought in your head
- focus on your breathing
- any time another idea pops into your head, try and stop it

easier said then done.




I would not suggest trying to "stop" thoughts...that is impossible. Instead recognize that thoughts come and go, do not focus on any thoughts, rahter let them freely flow through you.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: FunkyLoFi]
    #5686711 - 05/29/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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LoFiFunk said:
I would not suggest trying to "stop" thoughts...that is impossible.  Instead recognize that thoughts come and go, do not focus on any thoughts, rahter let them freely flow through you.




Yeah I could only imagine trying to stop every thought as ego-death is approaching.  Instant bad trip  :eek:


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Re: Reaching ego DEATH? [Re: Newbie]
    #5690011 - 05/30/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Would any of you recommend ego death? Or was it just an uncomfortable and scary experience for the most of you?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


Edited by Mr_Psilocin (05/30/06 08:47 AM)


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Re: Reaching ego DEATH? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5690038 - 05/30/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well... Ego-Loss can be a tough thing.

Ive had it once and it was a disaster. I thought I was dying. I fought it till the end.

Basicaly ego-loss is like taking a vacation from yourself. Most people arent ready for that, though. Becuase all you know is yourself... when you arent yourself you dont know what you are. Its kinda scary. But in the end its the one of the best gifts a human could experience.


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Re: Reaching ego DEATH? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5690041 - 05/30/06 09:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Mr_Psilocin said:
Would any of you recommend ego death? Or was it just an uncomfortable and scary experience for the most of you?




It depends what you're into.

If you're into serious exploration of the cosmos and mind.. then go for it!!

Like i said its one of the most rewarding experiences one could have.
Alot of people like to stay grounded though, and if you fight the experience then its very, very tough.

Just gotta let go  :sun: :mushroom2:


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5690115 - 05/30/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

use the lemon juice tek.


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: inoculatedGreif]
    #5691125 - 05/30/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

use the lemon juice tek.


I don't know why but I get a weird feeling in the stomach from the lemon juice tec. and it really influences the way my trip is. When I'm tripping on lemon juice I always get nausea..I did the lemon juice thing the last 8 times or so. I think I'm just going to make some omelets, with about 12 fresh n' big cubensis mushrooms. And have a little bread with it.  :crazy2: Then smoke 2 joints in a row.

:bigblunt:

If that's not enough then I'll just munch on some more. Put on some infected mushroom and try to let go as much as possible. If I get  the feeling I'm dieing then I'll try to accept it. How does that sound?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
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http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5691358 - 05/30/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I reached level 4 on 1g of copelandia's. With the lemon juice potentiator, I'm sure to reach 5. Gonna be interesting when I finally do it!!
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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5691393 - 05/30/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I agree that an understanding of Buddhism and the practice of meditation will help open the mind to understand and accept a level 5 experience. Since familiarizing myself with Buddhism (or shall I say, since becoming a buddhist) I can easily completely-let-go during a trip to a point where I can completely dissolve all boundaries.

Sometimes if the dose is not high enough I cannot reach a full level of absorption, but the clear meditative state of mind will help me 'work with what I've got'. But with a good dose, some marijuana, and an opened mind you should be able to reach that which you seek.

Without proper understanding and training you may not be able to understand the experience or even realize you are on the brink of a 'level 5'. It is a state that is always there, you just need to learn how to connect with it.


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #5692151 - 05/30/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yea, ive hit level 5 im, a pretty young guy but i know how to meditate,and im a little religious it was just funny that i got into meditating not too long before i got into shrooms and ive done a 3g dose before and felt great, but being spiritual i wanted to see if it could help me "find myself" a little more so to speak with a level 5, also i wanted visuals, so on a 6g dry boomer in oj blended up, i would say was the best trip i ever had. i wasnt trying to meditate really, or trying to really find anything, i was just letting it take me where it wanted, and i knew it wouldnt be some place scary n fucked up cuz i had my head cleared, i think the meditation defitilny helps trips , mainly cuz you learn, how even on a normal average day sober or not trippin, to sit back and get in touch with yourself and get all cleared up, even when there can be all kindsa shit goin on you still learn how to relax, if done right i would say its a little bit of a natural high as cheesy as that sounds i always that was bullshit until i started getting good at it, so imagine if your head was all cleared up before a large dose...good times :mushroom2:


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    #5693795 - 05/31/06 03:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)



Edited by werdnaeroom8 (01/26/07 10:25 AM)


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: ]
    #5693849 - 05/31/06 05:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

My guess is that it sucked for you because you fought it. Yeah you forget who you are, but who are you? You are everything And you are nothing. This separation is only a temporary illusion, you are infinitely connected.

If you don't know what to feel, JUST FEEL.

If you don't know who you are, JUST BE.


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    #5693853 - 05/31/06 05:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: ]
    #5693877 - 05/31/06 05:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Its like this,



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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: ]
    #5693910 - 05/31/06 05:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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werdnaeroom8 said:
It was more like....lets say you take a side on a subject but there is so many other things that coincide on whether which side you take. Its almost having an argument with yourself about yourself but never finding an ending to it.This might be because we as humans are hella complexed. Almost like a thought loop but it makes you stop breathing cause your thinking to hard. but yeah thats why letting everything go would make perfect sense as people said earlier in this thread



EGO-DEATH/LOSS is really fucking scary though. the scariest moment of my life. I think the ego loss can only happened when your trippin by yourself because if your not then you got your mind on the people around you and what the fuck they are doing on this crazy ass psychedelic.




I find it to be an amazing, brilliant, beautiful and exhilarating experience. It's something I've always enjoyed, and always welcome.


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: kaniz]
    #5693913 - 05/31/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

EXACTLY  :thumbup:


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5693997 - 05/31/06 07:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

O.k I will try for it then! You guys think 12 big cubensis mushrooms cooked in an omelet will do the trick?


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"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5694108 - 05/31/06 08:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Its like this,





That picture freaks me out. :shocked:


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: Vico]
    #5703941 - 06/02/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

maybe ego death/loss is so scary because, u have one, a big one? to much accustomed to it?, no one should have one anyway, it only creates seperation,problems...imagine if u didnt have an ego in the first place, then hit a level 5...everyone sould be able to ejnoy a level 5, hell a level 6 if there was one.... my point is, no one needs an ego, b humble to get the most out of life and shrooms :mushroom2:


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: caboomers]
    #5703955 - 06/02/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I should defenently do it (get there) once.


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: caboomers]
    #5704024 - 06/02/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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maybe ego death/loss is so scary because, u have one, a big one? to much accustomed to it?, no one should have one anyway, it only creates seperation,problems...imagine if u didnt have an ego in the first place, then hit a level 5...everyone sould be able to ejnoy a level 5, hell a level 6 if there was one.... my point is, no one needs an ego, b humble to get the most out of life and shrooms :mushroom2:




Ego is a survival tool. You want an Ego It is your identity, it is your "I". Your individuality. What you should strive for is a balanced and flexible ego.  :thumbup:


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5704111 - 06/02/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ego death is not this tangible thing you are trying to make it be. there is no set of requirements for ego death, and there is no formula for reaching it. depending on your experience as a human you could attain ego death without drug use. or if you are on the other end of the spectrum you could take 30 hits of acid and not hit ego death. you are treating ego death like a whole higher level of "fuckedupedness." its not. its a change in your personal relationship with the world. the mushrooms alone will not get you there, they can only help you on the way. if you honestly think you want this, you should be doing more thinking and reflecting with yourself, and on yourself, that is why people are recommending meditation.


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: sander]
    #5704612 - 06/02/06 03:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I just got started on meditation 3 days ago. It's amazing how much it relaxes you. I think with proper breathing techniques and by not thinking any thoughts. I might get there on a reasonable dose.


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5715361 - 06/05/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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caboomers said:
maybe ego death/loss is so scary because, u have one, a big one? to much accustomed to it?, no one should have one anyway, it only creates seperation,problems...imagine if u didnt have an ego in the first place, then hit a level 5...everyone sould be able to ejnoy a level 5, hell a level 6 if there was one.... my point is, no one needs an ego, b humble to get the most out of life and shrooms :mushroom2:




Ego is a survival tool. You want an Ego It is your identity, it is your "I". Your individuality. What you should strive for is a balanced and flexible ego.  :thumbup:




yea, i guess i meant superego...u know what i meant, thanks for the clarification tho.


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: sander]
    #5715369 - 06/05/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

exactly


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Re: Reaching "level 5"? [Re: sander]
    #5715377 - 06/05/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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sander said:
ego death is not this tangible thing you are trying to make it be. there is no set of requirements for ego death, and there is no formula for reaching it. depending on your experience as a human you could attain ego death without drug use. or if you are on the other end of the spectrum you could take 30 hits of acid and not hit ego death. you are treating ego death like a whole higher level of "fuckedupedness." its not. its a change in your personal relationship with the world. the mushrooms alone will not get you there, they can only help you on the way. if you honestly think you want this, you should be doing more thinking and reflecting with yourself, and on yourself, that is why people are recommending meditation.




exaclty :thumbup:


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