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Reaching "level 5"?
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I've been trying to reach ego-loss for quite a while now but even though I eat large quantities of mushrooms I can't seem to trigger ego-loss. Now I've read that it's all about "letting go" but I don't know what that's suppost to mean. Can someone help me out, please? :thumbup:


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

Edited by Mr_Psilocin (05/27/06 08:15 PM)

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Ego loss or ego death?

The former, just eat more. You'll soon get to the state where you can no longer tell where your body ends and the environment around you begins.

Ego death, I have no idea.

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Well ego loss isn't that thing when you just don't know who you are or what you feel, ego loss it more about letting go of your pride and seeing life for what it truly is, what is fake and what is real, what is human fabricated and natural.
For example when you realize that things like material stuff, cars, social position, image, fame, etc have really no value, they can't make you really happy or a spiritual person and they're only here more to comfort the ones which can't see happiness in something higher but more subtle to the eye.
And when somebody realizes this, there is only natural for he or she to pose questions about who are we really and what is our essence, questions which strips us of everything that is fake and non-real, and which in this life can be understood of loss.
In my point of view, "ego loss" doesn't mean forgetting who you are, on the contrary, finding your true essence, which most likely had nothing to do whit what we've been taught a human being is. And that's
where the confusion comes from about "not knowing who you are".
It's only up to us if we agree with the true nature of ourselves and us, and if we do, then we have the chance to move on to a higher level.
I hope I had some kind of consequence in my thoughts so I can make myself understood. Hope I could help.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Oh yes I have had that a bunch of times, mushrooms have really helped me solve problems in my life. I geuss I ment ego-"death". so, any tips?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

Edited by Mr_Psilocin (05/27/06 06:09 PM)

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Well just replace the wors, seriously. :grin:
Meaning that you reach ego death, excepting the time we all die, when you totally and forever forget about thise non-important things in life.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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My best advice for seeing into your true nature is to learn how to meditate.  The more you do that, the more you will learn to "let go."  And when the time comes in the middle of a psychedelic experience, you'll be ready.  Just feel into your body.  Let yourself be carried away by the cosmic winds.  Like a wave to water, man. 

:heart: Peace :heart:

:hippie:

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Quoiyaien]
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...what?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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- lay down
- close your eyes
- relax
- try and quiet every thought in your head
- focus on your breathing
- any time another idea pops into your head, try and stop it

easier said then done.

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: kaniz]
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put on some nice ambient music, nothing to active and no lyrics (i like MERKABA by tool, but everyone has their preference) put on some headphones or something and lie down and close your eyes...relax...or go to your local buddhist church we have one here in denver i go to every week and they constantly give free meditation classes :smile: they also give very nice talks on what life means and how thought....is?


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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: AA2277]
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O.k I will try that next time, thank you. Are any of you saying meditating makes the trip nicer and stronger?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Does meditating make the trip better or not?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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I don't think that is the most constructive way to approach meditation. I don't think that it necessarily makes the trip stronger or "better". I do know that it can help open up your mind to things that would not be accessable by a more closed mind.


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: nicechrisman]
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Oh, I understand now.


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Try smoking a lot of bud. It worked for me before I even knew what ego death was. Weed is a constant with whatever drug I take but when I'm tripping it elevates me to insane levels.

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: kaniz]
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kaniz said:
- lay down
- close your eyes
- relax
- try and quiet every thought in your head
- focus on your breathing
- any time another idea pops into your head, try and stop it

easier said then done.


I would not suggest trying to "stop" thoughts...that is impossible. Instead recognize that thoughts come and go, do not focus on any thoughts, rahter let them freely flow through you.


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All the people you knew were the actors

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: FunkyLoFi]
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LoFiFunk said:
I would not suggest trying to "stop" thoughts...that is impossible.  Instead recognize that thoughts come and go, do not focus on any thoughts, rahter let them freely flow through you.


Yeah I could only imagine trying to stop every thought as ego-death is approaching.  Instant bad trip  :eek:

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Re: Reaching ego DEATH? [Re: Newbie]
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Would any of you recommend ego death? Or was it just an uncomfortable and scary experience for the most of you?


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php

Edited by Mr_Psilocin (05/30/06 08:47 AM)

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Re: Reaching ego DEATH? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Well... Ego-Loss can be a tough thing.

Ive had it once and it was a disaster. I thought I was dying. I fought it till the end.

Basicaly ego-loss is like taking a vacation from yourself. Most people arent ready for that, though. Becuase all you know is yourself... when you arent yourself you dont know what you are. Its kinda scary. But in the end its the one of the best gifts a human could experience.


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Flowing through beginningless time since time without beginning...

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Re: Reaching ego DEATH? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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Mr_Psilocin said:
Would any of you recommend ego death? Or was it just an uncomfortable and scary experience for the most of you?


It depends what you're into.

If you're into serious exploration of the cosmos and mind.. then go for it!!

Like i said its one of the most rewarding experiences one could have.
Alot of people like to stay grounded though, and if you fight the experience then its very, very tough.

Just gotta let go  :sun: :mushroom2:


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Flowing through beginningless time since time without beginning...

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Re: Reaching ego loss? [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
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use the lemon juice tek.


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one branch of man turns away what has made us who we are, the other,excepts it for how its made man. which path do you choose?
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Man takes advantage of who he is,nature is his home, where he evolved from. So why does he turn it down, defy, and mutalate his birth ground? why does he spread disease, murder his native animals,rape and torture his land, and still feel descent of who he is? live a life that is not true? excepts an artificial home?

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