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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said:
Icelander said:
I'd rather tell you. It's much more satisfying. :tongue:


yes and I'd rather torture you

its much more satisfying than putting an end to your pointless existence.


You can't torture anyone, you can only be annoying. :tongue:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Back assward. [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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MushmanTheManic said:
Everybody wins! Yippee!


sure everybody wins

but the real question is, will they blow their winnings on coke and hookers, and end up with nothing despite having won?

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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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you got a good line on some coke and hookers?


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:brainfart: _ :finger:

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Re: Back assward. [Re: redgreenvines]
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DJ can hook you up. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Back assward. [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
you got a good line on some coke and hookers?


there are many benefits to meeting me in the flesh

and also many drawbacks.

the question is, will you be able to tell the difference between the two?

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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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also many drawbacks. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

UNDERSTATEMENT ALERT!


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Back assward. [Re: Icelander]
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hey, man you bought into your fair share of hardships

don't blame me for your bad choices

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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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I'm blaming who? :tongue:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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Hey man, I don't mean this offensively, but rather I seek to understand. You strike me as a:


type of person, drama seems to find you very quickly and easily.

Also your posts are extremely inconsistent: in one breath you talk of yourself as a truly divine gift whom we should all respect and pay homage too, yet in the next breath you suggest horrible things like torture and columbine and death being good. Those two mindsets seem almost like polar opposites.

And you absolutely refuse to consider other viewpoints or admit that you may be wrong or delusional.

I'm genuinely curious as to how you reconcile these diametrically opposed views and beliefs.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Back assward. [Re: dblaney]
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have you read my entire post history?

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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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Nah I'm only going by your posts in P&S...


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Back assward. [Re: dblaney]
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pretty much everything I've posted on this board is about unifying the opposites, while respecting their usefulness as pure separate entities.

its a difficult position to defend, and I don't always succeed in doing so. But I like to think I'm getting better.

anyway, don't judge me until you fully unerstand me.

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Re: Back assward. [Re: dblaney]
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Doctor J makes sense to me.

and its not inconsistent or polar opposites.

torture and death is well deserved by fuckers who are so ignorant that they cause people like columbine (or dr. j) to spawn.

and it's a very holy righteous attitude.
i know most people can't see that, but i can.

i'm sick of people holding on to the silly notion that in order to be holy you've got to be all kind and peaceful and mild mannered.

i would never actually torture someone, i couldn't hurt a fly, but i still know for a fact that alot of people deserve it.

jesus christ was not mild mannered and soft spoken
he was crucified for a reason, because he pissed people off
tore the temple apart
stuff like that


in another thread someone is talking about why god makes wars and people kill each other and torture in the name of religion and stuff.

when you realize death is an illusion, removing evil people from the planet in whatever way, isn't really a big deal.

why do you think it's so easy for muslims to die and kill in the name of allah.
yea i think their a bunch of freaks, and i think they are wrong-
but i still prefer them over people who torture and kill for NO REASON AT ALL. like the bullies, the ignorant, the tyranical establishment.

take the makers of cosmopolitan magazine for example, lol
they might seem nice and beautiful to some people
but they are destroying countless lives, children who grow up with eating disorders and bad self esteem, stuff like that, that grows into further problems, sexual dysfunctions, bad relationship choices, etc...

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Re: Back assward. [Re: Telepylus]
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you know what the funny thing is?

most of the people involved in Columbine went to the same place when they died: heaven!

I think that's pretty ironic.

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Re: Back assward. [Re: Telepylus]
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i'm sick of people holding on to the silly notion that in order to be holy you've got to be all kind and peaceful and mild mannered.

Certainly, not in EVERY situation, but compassion and love are holy so it would be difficult to justify many acts of violence and anger and hatred.

i still know for a fact that alot of people deserve it.

I challenge your knowledge. How do you know for a fact that a lot of people deserve torture? This is an opinion based assertion, not a factual one. Simply because you think that some people do things that warrant much suffering on their part, it is not necessarily true. People get what they deserve because of the patterns of energy that make up form, regardless of whether or not you think they deserve something.

when you realize death is an illusion, removing evil people from the planet in whatever way, isn't really a big deal.

This is an oversimplification. Yes, there is no death. But there's also no birth or living either. We are here because we have believed that superficial appearances are genuine reality. This is more than enough reason to be compassionate to the mistaken belief in suffering that others have made.

Removing someone from the planet because you dislike them is almost always selfish and egoic. It is a big deal.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Back assward. [Re: dblaney]
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the same God who created Ghandi also created Hitler. And both served their purpose.

as for myself, I choose Ghandi's way. That's more my style.

but all I'm saying is that differences in style often exist for a good reason. Not always, but usually.

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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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This forum post passionately argues against the idea that evil (Hitler-like behavior) is necessary for good (Gandhi-like behavior) to exist. The author contends that free will allows individuals to choose their actions and that Hitler and Gandhi both had agency. The post questions the notion that one must engage in heinous acts to appreciate goodness, using examples like needing darkness to see light or pollution to value clean water. It asserts that light and goodness can exist without the need for darkness and badness, suggesting that the belief in this duality is a form of manipulation to justify harmful actions. The author encourages readers to think critically and feel with their hearts, emphasizing that goodness and light can be appreciated in their own right without the need for evil.

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the same God who created Ghandi also created Hitler.


So Ghandi and Hitler had no say in their thoughts words and actions?


What happened to free will?

Ghandi created what he became and so did Hitler, using free will of choice.


Just because I could tear into someones head with a pitch fork, should I? 

If we go by what you say, we all might as well live really heinous, malicious and despicable lives, as long as we manufacture a good reason for it?  :confused:

Are you actually saying that there is good reason for Hitlers? :confused:

It's all silly excuses people use to justify their own inner Hitlers behaviors.

"The light needs the dark, to be" they say :thumbdown:

"The good needs the bad, to be" they say :thumbdown:

I say Bull caca. :smile:

I use to reason that stuff to myself too because it comes across sounding so "wise" and "cool" to feel/think that you can accept all thats fucked up in the world. you can even get so brainwashed that you begin to believe that you can be Hitleresque and you are doing the world a favor, "because the world needs the darkness and the bad."  :thumbdown:

It's all a bunch of desensitizing propaganda so il hearted, il minded, and il willing beings can justify themselves. Get enough to deeply buy into the crapola and you may even get supported for being Il hearted, il minded and il willed.

"Lets take the people with common good sense and desensitize them, so they no longer have senses." :hehehe:

"Let's feed them bullcaca ideas about spiritual strength training to toughening up to become calloused, the light needing the dark and the bad needing the good. Let's get them to believe that they can't have one without the other. :hehehe:"

"Lets ram it into their pee wee human minds so far that they will soon believe that their being calloused, hiding in the dark, and bad to the bone, is for the good of themselves and so others can know goodness and the light. They'll fall for it, yet again, suckas!:hehehe:

Children need to be molested so I can know good? :crazy: :thumbdown:

Wars need to be in play so I can know peace? :crazy: :thumbdown:

Darkness needs to exist for people to hide in so I can see in the light? :crazy: :thumbdown:

I need people to pound on me until I am senseless so I can "toughen up" and learn how to take more senseless beatings in the future without whining about it? :crazy: :thumbdown:

That stuff is all bull caca :thumbup:.

THINK and  FEEL with your HEART and know its :poop: (toxic material).

Why does one kid have to be raised by bad parents so another can have good parents? That makes no sense.

The daylight is day light. If we had binary star system, the sun could always be shining, and we wouldn't know the darkness of the night, NOR would we need too, to be in sunlight.

You only need sunlight to be in sunlight.  :sun:

Some people say, "well, you wouldn't know it was what it was or be able to appreciate it without knowing life without it." More caca.

I've always had use of my legs and I appreciate them and know what they do for me. Like I need to loose use of them to appreciate them and know what they do for me? :confused:

Saying we need the dark and bad so people can have and know the good and light is like saying, "We need legless people so people can know legs." :crazy:

It's like saying, "we need blind people so others can know they have vision and what vision is." :crazy:

It's like saying, "we need polluted toxic water so people can know and appreciate clean pure water."  :crazy:

I can live a whole life near a fresh water stream and know it and appreciate it without ever having come across, polluted and toxic water.

How did it become so easy for people to believe, including myself at times, that we need the dark and bad for there to be the light and good?

There only needs to be light and good for their to be light and good. The bad and the dark doesn't get you to them. It's what you fall into when you loose the ability to sense the light and good within the self.

Bad needs lack of good to be bad.

Dark needs lack of light to be dark.

Good needs only itself, goodness, to be good.

Light needs only itself, the light,  to be light.

All that blah blah sounds like, "Well  um , how would I see my flashlight was ON  unless it was dark outside? I need it to be night time for my flashlight to work." :crazy2: Does it not still shine its light during the day? Do you even need one if there is always natural light to see with?

Whose the wise guy who made the proverbial darkness fall so he could sell people his flashlights? He/She is smarter then us if we bought into that scam.

You want to be in the light and the good, to know the light and the good, and able to appreciate the light and the good? All it takes is getting your senses back. You always had them and never needed to not have them to know and appreciate them.

You also never needed an appreciation for the bad or the darkness of life to have and know the good and the light.

Did you need to crash a car, to know driving accident free was the ideal place to be? NO. Crashing a car just sucks and so does being in the bad and in the dark of life. It does nothing to make the accident free drives any better then they were before the crash.

People crash cars when they loose their driving senses is all.
Same with life.

Anything that serves to callous you to desensitization is serving up a platter of bull caca. Bon appetite if you buy into the idea of the good and light needing anything but itself to be.

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Back assward. [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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if you want light without darkness, then thats what you'll have.

but I suspect it won't enthrall you forever. Why else did you leave it in the first place?

and you certainly won't be able to force your preferences on others. Ultimately, No one has that power or that right.

so be with the light, old friend. But don't forget your other half. Don't forget your crazy old lame cousin who 'ain't been quite right lately'. Don't be unfair to that guy, you don't know what he's been through.

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Re: Back assward. [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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the funny thing is, you and I say the exact same thing in different ways. I realized this about you right off the bat.

but you come off as a bigot sometimes, as do I.

have you no respect for the villain of the story? Do you not appreciate a ripping good yarn, where it seems like the bad guys are going to win, and then the good guys kick ass at the last minute and everything ends happily?

life is just a story, man. Each life you live is like a book you read. And infinty has a big library. Some of the stories are sad, and some are happy. Some are adventurous, and some are boring. But everyone likes to read something different. I'm a big fan of Stephen King, myself. Too scary for some, but I find his writing both enjoyable and frequently uplifting. Just because a story has some bad elements, doesn't make it all bad! Conflict is what makes a story interesting!

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Re: Back assward. [Re: DoctorJ]
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I think that, after awhile, if you simply do not respond or acknowledge his existance, he might finally shut up. :lol:

Starting.... now.

:earth: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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