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InvisibleGijith
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Mandatory Military Service?
    #5559972 - 04/26/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The more I think about this, the more I favor it.
2 years at the age of 18, men and women. Little or no pay.

What are your guys' thoughts?


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Gijith]
    #5559977 - 04/26/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Not a chance in hell.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5560026 - 04/26/06 07:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Any countries do it successfully?
And would you want it?


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Gijith]
    #5560029 - 04/26/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think Greece does it.

I would hate that. I am not built for military service, as I have health problems.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5560082 - 04/26/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Terrible idea. Conscripts suck. They ruin morale. Aside from that, you should only be drafted in the direst of emergencies. It is, otherwise, slavery.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5560092 - 04/26/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I am 100% for it. We have too many rich fucks and pussies, they need some reality in their lives. And I say for the service we should get free fucking college.

Actually some1 proposed a bill like that. Only it also said people can do community service for 2 years or military for 2 years and then go to college for free.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Gijith]
    #5560292 - 04/26/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Gijith said:
The more I think about this, the more I favor it.
2 years at the age of 18, men and women. Little or no pay.

What are your guys' thoughts?




I think that putting a guy like me in the army would be a huge tactical error, as I would almost surely use whatever power the government gave me against the government at some point.

I could just see it now: Quietly moving my way up the ranks, always being a good soldier, but always remembering my true purpose. Carefully biding my time and making secret alliances with the other officers...

Then, as soon as they promote me to General, BAM! Military coup.

Now, everybody works in spaceship factories at gunpoint, sports are illegal, and scientists are the richest people on earth. All bureaucrats will be forced into a rocket that will be shot straight into the sun. All people below a certain level of intelligence will be gassed. Welcome to DoctorJ's America, bitch.


Edited by DoctorJ (04/26/06 09:26 PM)


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5561076 - 04/26/06 11:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I want to truly br free!!!!! (which insludes my choice to induce sacraments into my body) and not having to apart of some brainwashing army against my will


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Gijith]
    #5561113 - 04/26/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

This would give me an excuse to join, since I want to but am too much of a pussy as of now.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: WhiteRabbitt]
    #5561181 - 04/26/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Many countries do this now.

Austria
Belarus
Bermuda
Brazil
Bulgaria
Chile
China
Croatia
Cyprus
Denmark
Egypt
Finland
Germany
Greece
Israel
South Korea
............................ Ukraine, Venezuela.


I would support it. Everyone should do service. Its good for you.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Gijith]
    #5561193 - 04/27/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Gijith said:
Any countries do it successfully?
And would you want it?




Switzerland does it. And every man who has served in the military keeps his gear. They can be called up and mobilized in time of need.

That's why hitler had no interest in invading switzerland. Their army could have mobilized rapidly and kicked germany's ass right out of their country.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Konnrade]
    #5561996 - 04/27/06 08:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Actually Hitler marche dright through switzerland but didnt fuck with them at all because they had all his cash,

But no required military service should only be used when absolutley necessary, not to "enrich our youth" all it will do is create a bunch of fucked up bitter men in their late 20's who wanted to be a teacher but now cant because of an unstable mental condition brought on either by war or by an extrenuous basic training, or someone who wated to be a doctor but now cant because they lost their arm in an unjust, undeclared war advocated by a bunch of greedy pretentious lying fucks.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: BatCountry]
    #5562017 - 04/27/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

LOL just because a country has mandatory military service does not mean they have to have wars with everyone. Whens the last time Switzerland fought a war?

And if you cant handle basic training, your a pussy. Thank Darwin.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Gijith]
    #5562056 - 04/27/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I would be 100% in favour of mandatory military service for men AND women, starting at age 17. Far too many teens graduate from high school and have no direction or structure to their life.
In retrospect, joining the Navy was one of the smartest things I ever did...not only did it help me easily find a job after I was discharged, it provided valuable survival skills, every day skills that every bachelor should know...like how to iron a shirt, shine shoes, cook a meal... How to command respect from others, How to shoot...Hell, the list is endless, and that was only 4 years.

Any that have seen me post here, can verify that it has not made me just another "jarhead" willing to mindlessly die for my country. If anything, it has helped form what I think and who I am today.

I agree with what was stated...If you can't handle basic training, you're a pussy.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Rono]
    #5562106 - 04/27/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Don't be so bigoted. Just because it worked for you, doesn't mean it will work for everyone. Just because you needed it, doesn't mean everyone needs it.

Having an army of unwillingly conscripted soldiers is begging for a military coup.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5562113 - 04/27/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Terrible idea. Conscripts suck. They ruin morale. Aside from that, you should only be drafted in the direst of emergencies. It is, otherwise, slavery.



It's slavery regardless of the circumstances.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #5562134 - 04/27/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

but its your country. Its your duty to serve your country. Its not like they are shipping you to Mexico to serve in their military...


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5562149 - 04/27/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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but its your country.



What does this mean?

Quote:

Its your duty to serve your country.



Why?

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Its not like they are shipping you to Mexico to serve in their military...



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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #5562172 - 04/27/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Your country - you are a part of it. It is responsible for you - you are responsible for it. Your supposed to defend it - It is supposed to defend you.

Granted, the way the US is run today, mandatory military service would probably be a bad thing with all the bullshit wars. However, it could also be a great thing for the US, because EVERYONE would have to serve, including the children of those who run the place. Get a senators son out there and it might change his opinion about who we should fight next.


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Re: Mandatory Military Service? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #5562181 - 04/27/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Ancalagon said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Terrible idea. Conscripts suck. They ruin morale. Aside from that, you should only be drafted in the direst of emergencies. It is, otherwise, slavery.



It's slavery regardless of the circumstances.




Do you see pubic school as slavery?


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