Koala Koolio said:

I find it no where near as terrifying as mushrooms. Even with a full breakthrough, you just don't have time to be afraid. You're either amazed or you are nothing at all to even have emotions. Certainly, in my experience, the fear is overhyped.

Perfect CEV is damn right. I've experienced no harshness in the white stuff though. Not sure what technique was used, but it looks nothing like the yellow crap, and more like freeze precip. I find it amazing how beautiful CEV can be on it, while OEV tends to be completely boring!

"OR xylene used instead of naptha in the non polar extraction, AND evaporating the solvent in the last step."

From what I've read, xylene might not work so well with freeze precip. Is this not true? I certainly wouldn't want to evaporate it.

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This basified solution contains LYE which is extremely harsh to smoke. By doing this solvent wash after you have scrapped up the crystals you can virtually eliminate all of the lye in your final result as well as many other contaminants.

Once you have scrapped up your result from step 8 place it in a small glass container. In another container place a small amount of Naptha and run hot water over it. You want the naptha to be warm to the touch.

Once this is done add about 50 ml of naptha to the flask holding the crystals. If this is not enough to dissolve all of the crystals then add a little more. The goal here is to put just enough naptha into the flask to dissolve the DMT but not too much because you want it to evap quickly. Stir the flask by swirling it around. Do not place anything in the flask as you will disturb the sediment that should build up on the bottom. If the crystals do not want to dissolve then place the flask in a pot of hot water ( heat bath ). This will make the basified junk gummy and it will loose form and sink to the bottom adhering to the bottom of the flask.

Allow the flask to sit for one minute. Then pour off the naptha. Once you have gotten all of the naptha add about 10 ml more to the flask and swirl it around. This is to make sure you have gotten all of the spice. You can then add this 10 ml to the other 50 ml making sure that no sediment from the bottom makes it over. If you feel you still may have DMT in the flask by all means add more naptha and attempt to dissolve it. There's no rule to how many times you can add naptha the sediment after being in the heat bath should be stuck to the bottom quite well. So use as much naptha as you feel is neccissary.

You can now evap off the naptha and re collect your crystals. They should be much cleaner and show a more defined crystaline structure.

If there is still junk you can do a second wash. You should loose very little DMT on each wash so do as many as you need to get a good final result.

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I would highly recommend trying that, you don't want to burn your throat   meth/oil pipes are hard to come by for most of us so I still think you got a deal.  I prefer smoking D in a 'sandwich' of damiana/mugwort/cannabis in a regular bowl.  The experience itself has never freaked me out, I find the entities to be some good folk, just introduce yourself and tell them why you're here.  There's a short TR (four winds) in my journal.

namaste said:

I know.  You're post was loaded with good info I was replying and just trying to give Mushy_face a good procedure to follow.

I have not heard of the baking soda/epsom/heptane methods, interesting.  I find using naptha to defat and evaporate and just being careful separating your layers with a funnel to provide good product that I'm happy with and havn't felt the need to improve on it, yet.

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namaste said:

...just Wow.  Those pics make me feel all squishy inside.

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hell yea... but yours doesnt look like the "before" pic? mine looks exactly like that.

next time I am striving for the AFTER pic 

Nice post, Koala

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By the third hit, your hand should be pretty heavy, and difficult to maneuver towards your mouth correctly.

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Koala Koolio said:

If you have fears about properly vaporizing it, I would recommend smoking it in a bowl.

You waste a little, but you're more likely to mess up the other method, resulting in a much larger waste. If you don't vape it properly, you might not be able to get enough in you in a short enough period of time.

I recommend just putting a little herb of some sort in a bowl. Parsley works fine. Then your 50mg of dmt, and a thin layer at the top of the herb again. Just use a normal lighter, as little flame as possible. Don't overdo the herb.

Your goal is to kill the bowl. Hold in each hit as well as you can, breathe out, and go straight to the next inhale. You can take a breath of air somewhere in there if you need it, just make it quick. By the third hit, your hand should be pretty heavy, and difficult to maneuver towards your mouth correctly. You're not *quite* there yet. You'll regret not finishing, intense as it may be. The third one (4th with smaller hits) will 'kill' you. One more hit would be impossible once you've had enough. A friend indicated that he wanted another (not with words, grunts) so I tried to help him light it. His eyes were gone... he tried sucking in the hit, but he could barely hold the piece and couldn't work the carb.

And then... you come back to reality in 5 minutes. Spend the next 30 probably trying to figure out what happened, and dealing with the pleasant after effects. Then you come on here and tell us how it went.

Oh, and post some pics.

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Mushy_face said:

WOOOOOOOOoooooooooooowwwwwwwwWWWWWWWW.
Broke through yestruday and it was incredible.  I managed to inhale all 62mg in 3 big hits of the pipe and none was left.  Next came the wierdest experience of my life. The colours came and extremly complex patterns starting appearing around me as if i was becoming aware of some alternate reality. From there i was completly taken apart and swirled in colours and patterns and spirit entities. They would fly around within what 'i' had become.  Coming down was incredible and it felt so good to be alive, after followed 30 minites of shock and euforia as i enjoyed some crazy visuals.  It felt a little bit like mushrooms, maybe if someone ate a few kg of shrooms then youd have something similar. Anyway im in shock, it was a beutiful experience and was very spiritual.
DMT did not disapoint

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Aha DMT what a powerfull substance indeed, I like the ayahuasca brew better its somewhat different and the duration of the trip is much longer than the smokable dmt but the bad thing about the brew is you have to fats n diet like crazy, I don't like that cause not anytime before or during the trip can I actually eat anything I like, maybe applesauce n carrots but those aren't the best things to fill me up I need meat cause I'm a manly man with manly needs, uh-huh....so kick it!
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Not from Ron Burgendy Its from a Adult Video but its not Porn its more of a commedy, it starts with Run Delma and forgot the rest it was made in the 90s if I recall it was year 95 its a great movie I recommend it since a middle aged man get toad venom in his eye and starts to morph (wax with noticeable cut scenes but purposesly ok ill shush )-"I'm a manly man with manly needs. I'm such a man with manly perseverance's that only manly men know about. Its a manly man thing you wouldn't understand, but I could teach you if you wanna goto my place and ride me like a gallivant female wanting the manly steeds manly goods, you can start by begging im to manly to ask of you what your thinking and yes... I do know what your thinking *smirk*."

Sorry if this is sexist but if it helps the guy is slapped with a samon fish from out of the ladies bra, which knocked the guy so hard it gave a concusion, so much for brain food and its just a lame joke more inside I guess you would have to just watch the movie .

Mushy_face said:

WOOOOOOOOoooooooooooowwwwwwwwWWWWWWWW.
Broke through yestruday and it was incredible.  I managed to inhale all 62mg in 3 big hits of the pipe and none was left.  Next came the wierdest experience of my life. The colours came and extremly complex patterns starting appearing around me as if i was becoming aware of some alternate reality. From there i was completly taken apart and swirled in colours and patterns and spirit entities. They would fly around within what 'i' had become.  Coming down was incredible and it felt so good to be alive, after followed 30 minites of shock and euforia as i enjoyed some crazy visuals.  It felt a little bit like mushrooms, maybe if someone ate a few kg of shrooms then youd have something similar. Anyway im in shock, it was a beutiful experience and was very spiritual.
DMT did not disapoint

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so you didnt have a problem smoking it? no harshness? torch lighter or bic? any residue in the pipe after you finished?

were the visuals you described open eye or closed eye?

and yea the coming down is great. 

Mushy_face said:

A bic lighter was used, no residue was left at the end. It was harsh, however i managed and sooner than i knew it i was in hyperspace anyway. When i came done the open eye visuals were phenomanal. However the real light show was to be had at the peak when billions of geometric ranbow patterns and shaps flowed through me. Im still so shocked, the relive i had when i came back to my body was unbelivable, not that the trip wasnt inspiartional and amazing, its just abit on the SHOCKING side, and being normal was amazing:D

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Koala Koolio said:

"torch lighter or bic? "

I'd sincerely hope he didn't use a torch lighter.

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Koala Koolio said:

Well, the ideal way to smoke it is vaporizing, as little heat as possible.

Second option is to smoke it, and avoiding burning it up... throwing some herbs in there and whatnot.

The last thing I'd want to do is apply a buttload of heat to it and waste so much.

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Koala Koolio said:

Ah, yeah. I was still in "standard pipe mode". Hehe...

Still haven't gotten to use a proper fb pipe. That might change soon.

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its alot better. one good hit has the effect of 3 in a regular pipe. still havent had a full "breakthrough" yet tho. I tend to bitch out after 1 hit. usually because I get a reaction or burning where the melted DMT turns dark and sometimes lets out like nasty brown smoke which I dont dare to inhale. its either that I'm burning it, or trace hydroxides causing some kind of bad reaction 

Koala Koolio said:

it doesn't sound like a matter of it just being burnt. I tried a test tube once. I failed, but totally torched the stuff, and it was still white smoke. Even applying flame to the stuff itself never gave anything but white smoke.

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Koala Koolio said:

It was a friend, but I know a bit about his technique... though I didn't witness the entire thing. Besides that, I'm familliar with the entire process, just not this particular time. Freeze precip is key for clean stuff.

Certainly not synthetic in this time period we're living in.

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Congrats sounds like a break-through to me.

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(actually it felt like some presence inside the bulb of the pipe itself was telling me to take the third hit)

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That's what I really enjoy about DMT, they're always like c'mon take another puff, whereas Salvia can be like don't you think you've had enough already?

I find that unless I'm shrooming or on another tryptamine, the message fades way too quickly... 

namaste said:

Congrats sounds like a break-through to me.

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(actually it felt like some presence inside the bulb of the pipe itself was telling me to take the third hit)

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That's what I really enjoy about DMT, they're always like c'mon take another puff, whereas Salvia can be like don't you think you've had enough already?

I find that unless I'm shrooming or on another tryptamine, the message fades way too quickly... 

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maxwellgustav said:

I've heard that you can sprinkle about 25mg into a bowl of weed or joint to spice up a normal stone with some DMT visuals. Has anybody tried this and can give more detailed effects?

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never tried it wiith weed, but low doses are pretty mild. mild OEVs, nice CEVs... im sure it would be fun