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DMT :)
    #5353894 - 03/01/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A friend of mine finally came across some dmt in a psy-trance warehouse rave. Its 1/2 g of plastic smelling, orange crystals. I talked to a guy in my local head shop about it and after 1/2 an hour of very involving enthuesastic dicussion he gave me a glass pipe perfect for dmt free of charge:). It was a fasinating conversation and really taught me alot. In a few days time i will be joining the ive smoked nn dmt clube :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: DMT :) [Re: Mushy_face]
    #5353933 - 03/01/06 03:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

cool shit i have never found it only extracted it but mine come out whitish i get all the namptha out


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Re: DMT :) [Re: Mushy_face]
    #5353938 - 03/01/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Orange is not a good sign.  You may want to ask around about 'cleaning' it up a little bit.  There's a simple hot vinegar wash or naptha freeze/separation, I'm sure others here can go into more detail and would love to help you out.  Free pipe?  that's the bee's knees :grin:  personaly I would suggest eating a low shroom dose to ease your way into the void (it makes it easier to remember IME), there's nothing to fear just some good friends you havn't seen in awhile.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: schmutzen]
    #5353951 - 03/01/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

With only a half g, unless it's really crummy I wouldn't bother cleaning it. A lot of the DMT going around (which is obviously very little) prior to a few years ago was yellowish (see erowid pics). Funny story I recently heard from a good guy: When asking people if they wanted to smoke some DMT, many turned down pure white crystal as the only stuff they'd seen years before was yellow, which they refered to as "orange organic". For some reason they seemed to believe that the yellow stuff was all natural and safe, while any white crystal is obviously some man made evil chemical. Heh... people.

Just improper extraction technique, probably too much acid used in the first step, and got some extra gunk out of the source plant. Really nothing to worry about when you've only got 10 doses (unless you REALLY can't hold the smoke in...).


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Re: DMT :) [Re: schmutzen]
    #5353958 - 03/01/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, and congrats on the buy, you're a lucky one. I'd have jumped on the "OMG THAT'S PROBABLY 5-MeO-DMT" bandwagon if it were actually clean looking crystal. :smile:

Got any pics?

Btw, your headshop keeper is cool to chat about substances and all... but your pipe was probably about 3-5 bucks. :smile:


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Re: DMT :) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5354813 - 03/01/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

orange/yellow is a sign of 2 things... possibly too much acid in the first step OR xylene used instead of naptha in the non polar extraction, AND evaporating the solvent in the last step.

in the newer teks you put the naptha in the freezer and white or slightly off white crystals preciptate out EVERY time.

anyway, I've heard of people getting really good esperiences with some DMT that they came across that wasnt pure white crystal.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5354840 - 03/01/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

as for my expereience with it, all I have smoked is freeze preciptated white crystal....

I havent got the full DMT experience yet... the shit is kind of tricky to smoke and pretty harsh.

I got the closest I've been today... with one weak hit and one man sized hit. started off with less intense OEVs than usual, but when I closed my eyes, I got the usual bad ass cathedral stained glass stuff, but the patterns morphed into an angelic woman, still made of patterns but unmistakably a female entity, who touched my face and tried to "pull me in" but couldnt for whatever reason (probably because I hadnt smoked enough lol)

DMT is the king of CEVs (with my limited experience of shrooms and smoked DMT). way too short tho.

btw what kind of pipe did this guy give you thats "perfect for smoking DMT"?


Edited by JeffersonDarcy (03/01/06 08:13 PM)


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5354869 - 03/01/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hows the fear factor, for lack of a better term  :smile:. I have a friend whos into DMT but Ive put off trying it because I know how bad the psychedelic terror can get. Id really like to try it though.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: Gratos]
    #5354892 - 03/01/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I find it no where near as terrifying as mushrooms. Even with a full breakthrough, you just don't have time to be afraid. You're either amazed or you are nothing at all to even have emotions. Certainly, in my experience, the fear is overhyped.

Perfect CEV is damn right. I've experienced no harshness in the white stuff though. Not sure what technique was used, but it looks nothing like the yellow crap, and more like freeze precip. I find it amazing how beautiful CEV can be on it, while OEV tends to be completely boring!

"OR xylene used instead of naptha in the non polar extraction, AND evaporating the solvent in the last step."

From what I've read, xylene might not work so well with freeze precip. Is this not true? I certainly wouldn't want to evaporate it.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: Gratos]
    #5354900 - 03/01/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

my experiences with DMT so far (all of which have been sub breakthrough--cool open eye effects, very intense closed eye visuals... but no complete out of body experience ego death as of yet) have been completely without any fear whatsoever.

For some reason, I am a little anxious before and while I smoke but once it takes effect I'm completely at ease. I just need someone to force me to MAN UP and FINISH THAT SHIT (training day LOL).


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Re: DMT :) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5354925 - 03/01/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I find it no where near as terrifying as mushrooms. Even with a full breakthrough, you just don't have time to be afraid. You're either amazed or you are nothing at all to even have emotions. Certainly, in my experience, the fear is overhyped.

Perfect CEV is damn right. I've experienced no harshness in the white stuff though. Not sure what technique was used, but it looks nothing like the yellow crap, and more like freeze precip. I find it amazing how beautiful CEV can be on it, while OEV tends to be completely boring!

"OR xylene used instead of naptha in the non polar extraction, AND evaporating the solvent in the last step."

From what I've read, xylene might not work so well with freeze precip. Is this not true? I certainly wouldn't want to evaporate it.




the harshness is due to traces of NaOH (LYE) no doubt about it. last time I smoked it (vaporized technically... meth style pipe) it burned alot and my thrat and chest bithered me for a day. I recrystallized with naptha and its alot less harsh... still a little burn but its gone after 15 minutes or so.

dunno about freeze precip. with xylene. I've only used naptha. I do know that xylene pulls more stuff out (read: more DMT and alot more stuff thats NOT DMT)

and yea I agree with it being nowhere near as scary as mushrooms can be... its pretty much over in 5 minutes or less (after effects last another 10 mins maybe but the main effects usually are only a few minutes) but as I said I havent gotten the complete breakthru yet....


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Re: DMT :) [Re: Mushy_face]
    #5355504 - 03/01/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Originally posted by another member

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This basified solution contains LYE which is extremely harsh to smoke. By doing this solvent wash after you have scrapped up the crystals you can virtually eliminate all of the lye in your final result as well as many other contaminants.

Once you have scrapped up your result from step 8 place it in a small glass container. In another container place a small amount of Naptha and run hot water over it. You want the naptha to be warm to the touch.

Once this is done add about 50 ml of naptha to the flask holding the crystals. If this is not enough to dissolve all of the crystals then add a little more. The goal here is to put just enough naptha into the flask to dissolve the DMT but not too much because you want it to evap quickly. Stir the flask by swirling it around. Do not place anything in the flask as you will disturb the sediment that should build up on the bottom. If the crystals do not want to dissolve then place the flask in a pot of hot water ( heat bath ). This will make the basified junk gummy and it will loose form and sink to the bottom adhering to the bottom of the flask.

Allow the flask to sit for one minute. Then pour off the naptha. Once you have gotten all of the naptha add about 10 ml more to the flask and swirl it around. This is to make sure you have gotten all of the spice. You can then add this 10 ml to the other 50 ml making sure that no sediment from the bottom makes it over. If you feel you still may have DMT in the flask by all means add more naptha and attempt to dissolve it. There's no rule to how many times you can add naptha the sediment after being in the heat bath should be stuck to the bottom quite well. So use as much naptha as you feel is neccissary.

You can now evap off the naptha and re collect your crystals. They should be much cleaner and show a more defined crystaline structure.

If there is still junk you can do a second wash. You should loose very little DMT on each wash so do as many as you need to get a good final result.




I would highly recommend trying that, you don't want to burn your throat :frown:  meth/oil pipes are hard to come by for most of us so I still think you got a deal.  I prefer smoking D in a 'sandwich' of damiana/mugwort/cannabis in a regular bowl.  The experience itself has never freaked me out, I find the entities to be some good folk, just introduce yourself and tell them why you're here.  There's a short TR (four winds) in my journal.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: schmutzen]
    #5355950 - 03/02/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I did that... its what I meant when I said I recrystallized.

although, when I dissolved the crystals nothing stuck to the bottom of the container...

oh well. next time I am gonna get a separatory funnel and do a water/baking soda wash and an epsom salt drying... and when Im done with all that I will do a recrystallizations with heptane.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5356367 - 03/02/06 05:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

has anyone tried a DMT snuff eg virola?


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5356460 - 03/02/06 06:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I know.  You're post was loaded with good info :laugh: I was replying and just trying to give Mushy_face a good procedure to follow.

I have not heard of the baking soda/epsom/heptane methods, interesting.  I find using naptha to defat and evaporate and just being careful separating your layers with a funnel to provide good product that I'm happy with and havn't felt the need to improve on it, yet.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: schmutzen]
    #5356512 - 03/02/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I know.  You're post was loaded with good info :laugh: I was replying and just trying to give Mushy_face a good procedure to follow.

I have not heard of the baking soda/epsom/heptane methods, interesting.  I find using naptha to defat and evaporate and just being careful separating your layers with a funnel to provide good product that I'm happy with and havn't felt the need to improve on it, yet.




you get a pretty pure product just following the basic marsofold tek, but you will still have traces of NaOH, whether u use a turkey baster or separatory funnel. From what I understand, microscopic droplets of water make it into the naptha, and obviously there is lye in that water.


pretty much what you do is (assuming you extracted from 1lb of mhrb and have around 300ml naptha...

you put a 10ml saturated solution of water and baking soda into a sep. funnel with the naptha. shake it up and get the water out FAST. it will separate immediately so its not hard to do that. this does 2 things... much of the water droplets in the naptha will stick to the other water.. AND the sodium bicarbonate (bakingsoda) reacts with the sodium hydroxide (lye) and changes it to sodium carbonate, which is much less nasty than lye. after this you can do the same thing with 10ml of brine (salt saturated water) solution. some people say you can use ammonia, or ammonia and baking soda instead of water and bakingsoda.

then you put the naptha in a container and add anhydrous epsom salt (you have to cook epsom salt in the oven to remove all traces of water). it will clump up. when it stops clumping, pour the solution through a coffee filter and start the freeze preciptation.


when its done, you recrystallize with heptane (sold as BESTINE) the same way you would with naptha... the same thing you posted. 70ml per gram.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5356672 - 03/02/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That must be snow-white, do you have any pics?


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    #5356688 - 03/02/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)



this is not my pic... but that is supposedly what it will look like after a recrystallization with heptane.

the stuff I have looks like the before pic.... even after a recrystallization with naptha.

but yea if you do all those washes and stuff you will have extremely clean DMT


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Re: DMT :) [Re: schmutzen]
    #5356689 - 03/02/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Virola is mostly 5-MeO-DMT.


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    #5357158 - 03/02/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

...just Wow. Those pics make me feel all squishy inside.


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    #5357213 - 03/02/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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...just Wow.  Those pics make me feel all squishy inside.




hell yea... but yours doesnt look like the "before" pic? mine looks exactly like that.

next time I am striving for the AFTER pic  :cool:


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5358073 - 03/02/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah il post pics up and a trip report in a few days. I think its only slightly organgy, like an off whiteish colour. Yeah the pipe was a glass one with a bulb at the end. The head shop owner has met terrence mckenna and althought the pipe was cheap it was very much apprieciated:D


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    #5358192 - 03/02/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yea definately post pics....

the glass bulb pipe is what I use too... I've heard that there are pipes designed specifically for DMT but ive never seen one.

try to load up 50mg and get 3 solid hits. its harder than it sounds. have a friend there to hold the pipe and make you take that third hit.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5361174 - 03/03/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Shal i vaporise it all in the small bulb with a lighter then start inhaleing, or start slowly inhaling once it start vaporising? I dont want to get it wrong and waste any precious DMT. Thanks


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    #5361209 - 03/03/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

weight out about 50mg

use a torch lighter if you can... but dont touch it directly to the glass and move it around. YOu dont want to burn the stuff. vaporize it till you get nice,thick smoke in the pipe. inhaling before that will give you a weak hit and thats bad, as it gets DMT in your system and starts the metabolization process (supposedly you have to get your dose in in around a minute). hold it in for a while than exhale and repeat. Try to take 3 big hits. harder than it sounds.

AND POST PICS OF THE DMT!!!!


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5361424 - 03/03/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If you have fears about properly vaporizing it, I would recommend smoking it in a bowl.

You waste a little, but you're more likely to mess up the other method, resulting in a much larger waste. If you don't vape it properly, you might not be able to get enough in you in a short enough period of time.

I recommend just putting a little herb of some sort in a bowl. Parsley works fine. Then your 50mg of dmt, and a thin layer at the top of the herb again. Just use a normal lighter, as little flame as possible. Don't overdo the herb.

Your goal is to kill the bowl. Hold in each hit as well as you can, breathe out, and go straight to the next inhale. You can take a breath of air somewhere in there if you need it, just make it quick. By the third hit, your hand should be pretty heavy, and difficult to maneuver towards your mouth correctly. You're not *quite* there yet. You'll regret not finishing, intense as it may be. The third one (4th with smaller hits) will 'kill' you. One more hit would be impossible once you've had enough. A friend indicated that he wanted another (not with words, grunts) so I tried to help him light it. His eyes were gone... he tried sucking in the hit, but he could barely hold the piece and couldn't work the carb.

And then... you come back to reality in 5 minutes. Spend the next 30 probably trying to figure out what happened, and dealing with the pleasant after effects. Then you come on here and tell us how it went. :smile:

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Re: DMT :) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5361540 - 03/03/06 01:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nice post, Koala :thumbup:

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By the third hit, your hand should be pretty heavy, and difficult to maneuver towards your mouth correctly.




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Re: DMT :) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5361554 - 03/03/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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If you have fears about properly vaporizing it, I would recommend smoking it in a bowl.

You waste a little, but you're more likely to mess up the other method, resulting in a much larger waste. If you don't vape it properly, you might not be able to get enough in you in a short enough period of time.

I recommend just putting a little herb of some sort in a bowl. Parsley works fine. Then your 50mg of dmt, and a thin layer at the top of the herb again. Just use a normal lighter, as little flame as possible. Don't overdo the herb.

Your goal is to kill the bowl. Hold in each hit as well as you can, breathe out, and go straight to the next inhale. You can take a breath of air somewhere in there if you need it, just make it quick. By the third hit, your hand should be pretty heavy, and difficult to maneuver towards your mouth correctly. You're not *quite* there yet. You'll regret not finishing, intense as it may be. The third one (4th with smaller hits) will 'kill' you. One more hit would be impossible once you've had enough. A friend indicated that he wanted another (not with words, grunts) so I tried to help him light it. His eyes were gone... he tried sucking in the hit, but he could barely hold the piece and couldn't work the carb.

And then... you come back to reality in 5 minutes. Spend the next 30 probably trying to figure out what happened, and dealing with the pleasant after effects. Then you come on here and tell us how it went. :smile:

Oh, and post some pics.




what is the "proper" way to vape it? I have been having problems doing it right... takes a long time to start to vaporize, maybe I get one nice thick white smoke hit, then the liquid turns dark and the smoke looks nasty... one time it was almost brown (didnt inhale that shit).

BUT i tried it with the parsely method the first time... took 3 solid hits (coughed up the first one tho). One solid hit off the vaporizer pipe hit harder than 3 using the parsely method....


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5366446 - 03/05/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

WOOOOOOOOoooooooooooowwwwwwwwWWWWWWWW.
Broke through yestruday and it was incredible. I managed to inhale all 62mg in 3 big hits of the pipe and none was left. Next came the wierdest experience of my life. The colours came and extremly complex patterns starting appearing around me as if i was becoming aware of some alternate reality. From there i was completly taken apart and swirled in colours and patterns and spirit entities. They would fly around within what 'i' had become. Coming down was incredible and it felt so good to be alive, after followed 30 minites of shock and euforia as i enjoyed some crazy visuals. It felt a little bit like mushrooms, maybe if someone ate a few kg of shrooms then youd have something similar. Anyway im in shock, it was a beutiful experience and was very spiritual.
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Re: DMT :) [Re: Mushy_face]
    #5366487 - 03/05/06 03:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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WOOOOOOOOoooooooooooowwwwwwwwWWWWWWWW.
Broke through yestruday and it was incredible.  I managed to inhale all 62mg in 3 big hits of the pipe and none was left.  Next came the wierdest experience of my life. The colours came and extremly complex patterns starting appearing around me as if i was becoming aware of some alternate reality. From there i was completly taken apart and swirled in colours and patterns and spirit entities. They would fly around within what 'i' had become.  Coming down was incredible and it felt so good to be alive, after followed 30 minites of shock and euforia as i enjoyed some crazy visuals.  It felt a little bit like mushrooms, maybe if someone ate a few kg of shrooms then youd have something similar. Anyway im in shock, it was a beutiful experience and was very spiritual.
DMT did not disapoint




Aha DMT what a powerfull substance indeed, I like the ayahuasca brew better its somewhat different and the duration of the trip is much longer than the smokable dmt but the bad thing about the brew is you have to fats n diet like crazy, I don't like that cause not anytime before or during the trip can I actually eat anything I like, maybe applesauce n carrots but those aren't the best things to fill me up I need meat cause I'm a manly man with manly needs, uh-huh....so kick it!
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Sorry if this is sexist but if it helps the guy is slapped with a samon fish from out of the ladies bra, which knocked the guy so hard it gave a concusion, so much for brain food and its just a lame joke more inside I guess you would have to just watch the movie :wink:.


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    #5367262 - 03/05/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Mushy_face said:
WOOOOOOOOoooooooooooowwwwwwwwWWWWWWWW.
Broke through yestruday and it was incredible.  I managed to inhale all 62mg in 3 big hits of the pipe and none was left.  Next came the wierdest experience of my life. The colours came and extremly complex patterns starting appearing around me as if i was becoming aware of some alternate reality. From there i was completly taken apart and swirled in colours and patterns and spirit entities. They would fly around within what 'i' had become.  Coming down was incredible and it felt so good to be alive, after followed 30 minites of shock and euforia as i enjoyed some crazy visuals.  It felt a little bit like mushrooms, maybe if someone ate a few kg of shrooms then youd have something similar. Anyway im in shock, it was a beutiful experience and was very spiritual.
DMT did not disapoint




:cool:

so you didnt have a problem smoking it? no harshness? torch lighter or bic? any residue in the pipe after you finished?

were the visuals you described open eye or closed eye?

and yea the coming down is great.  :smile:


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    #5367421 - 03/05/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A bic lighter was used, no residue was left at the end. It was harsh, however i managed and sooner than i knew it i was in hyperspace anyway. When i came done the open eye visuals were phenomanal. However the real light show was to be had at the peak when billions of geometric ranbow patterns and shaps flowed through me. Im still so shocked, the relive i had when i came back to my body was unbelivable, not that the trip wasnt inspiartional and amazing, its just abit on the SHOCKING side, and being normal was amazing:D


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    #5367524 - 03/05/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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A bic lighter was used, no residue was left at the end. It was harsh, however i managed and sooner than i knew it i was in hyperspace anyway. When i came done the open eye visuals were phenomanal. However the real light show was to be had at the peak when billions of geometric ranbow patterns and shaps flowed through me. Im still so shocked, the relive i had when i came back to my body was unbelivable, not that the trip wasnt inspiartional and amazing, its just abit on the SHOCKING side, and being normal was amazing:D




so I'm confused, the peak visuals (the rainbow geometric patterns as you described) were closed eye?

what were the comedown open eye visuals like? the ones I experience on comedown are subtle but very cool. usually the floor moving in waves like the ocean, and actually feeling my chair rocking like a boat.


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Re: DMT :) [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5367554 - 03/05/06 02:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Usually on the Peak on a DMT trip you really don't know if you have your eyes closed or open it doesn't seem to matter.


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    #5367601 - 03/05/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"torch lighter or bic? "

I'd sincerely hope he didn't use a torch lighter. :smile:


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    #5367621 - 03/05/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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"torch lighter or bic? "

I'd sincerely hope he didn't use a torch lighter. :smile:




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    #5367645 - 03/05/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well, the ideal way to smoke it is vaporizing, as little heat as possible.

Second option is to smoke it, and avoiding burning it up... throwing some herbs in there and whatnot.

The last thing I'd want to do is apply a buttload of heat to it and waste so much.


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    #5367658 - 03/05/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, the ideal way to smoke it is vaporizing, as little heat as possible.

Second option is to smoke it, and avoiding burning it up... throwing some herbs in there and whatnot.

The last thing I'd want to do is apply a buttload of heat to it and waste so much.




I'm talking about vaporizing it in a glass bulb (meth) style pipe or a lightbulb (you certainly wouldnt use a torch lighter the other way, smoking it with herbs). It seems to vaporize quite slowly....

but I may be burning it with a torch and that may be what causes the residue... dunno.

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    #5367780 - 03/05/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ah, yeah. I was still in "standard pipe mode". Hehe...

Still haven't gotten to use a proper fb pipe. That might change soon.


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    #5367891 - 03/05/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Ah, yeah. I was still in "standard pipe mode". Hehe...

Still haven't gotten to use a proper fb pipe. That might change soon.




its alot better. one good hit has the effect of 3 in a regular pipe. still havent had a full "breakthrough" yet tho. I tend to bitch out after 1 hit. usually because I get a reaction or burning where the melted DMT turns dark and sometimes lets out like nasty brown smoke which I dont dare to inhale. its either that I'm burning it, or trace hydroxides causing some kind of bad reaction  :frown:


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    #5367940 - 03/05/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it doesn't sound like a matter of it just being burnt. I tried a test tube once. I failed, but totally torched the stuff, and it was still white smoke. Even applying flame to the stuff itself never gave anything but white smoke.


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    #5367993 - 03/05/06 04:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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it doesn't sound like a matter of it just being burnt. I tried a test tube once. I failed, but totally torched the stuff, and it was still white smoke. Even applying flame to the stuff itself never gave anything but white smoke.




so what does it sound like? and was the stuff you had extracted yourself, extracted by someone else and purchased or synthetic?


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    #5368031 - 03/05/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It was a friend, but I know a bit about his technique... though I didn't witness the entire thing. Besides that, I'm familliar with the entire process, just not this particular time. Freeze precip is key for clean stuff.

Certainly not synthetic in this time period we're living in. :smile:


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    #5368379 - 03/05/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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It was a friend, but I know a bit about his technique... though I didn't witness the entire thing. Besides that, I'm familliar with the entire process, just not this particular time. Freeze precip is key for clean stuff.

Certainly not synthetic in this time period we're living in. :smile:




yea, mine is freeze preciptated... clean looking fine white crystals. just curious what causes the dark residue. I have read that it is residual hydroxides (lye) reacting withe the DMT and burning/polymerising it


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    #5371362 - 03/06/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Il post up the pic soon, sorry for the delay, my friend is in possession of it at the moment. However they look very very similar to the whitish crystals posted before the wash earlier on in this thread.


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    #5376779 - 03/08/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The guy from the head shop wants some off us, so we agreed to do him a favour and get him some for the price we can. And by suprise he sprung another treat on us and gave us 20grms of dried mushrooms:D


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    #5376900 - 03/08/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Shrooms + DMT is the bee's knees. I found it interesting your experience was quite similar to mine. I too was 'taken apart' with pieces of my body floating around, good stuff, but I imagine that could scare the beejebus out of someone not ready for that type of thing.


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    #5377234 - 03/08/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Does anyone get this weird sexual energy off of DMT?

I am pretty sure I just "broke through" loaded up 50mg in the glass bulb pipe and smoked with a bic lighter this time. one weak hit, hit it again, paterns and confusion, forced myself (actually it felt like some presence inside the bulb of the pipe itself was telling me to take the third hit) instantly the DMT patterns appeard on everything, I was able to set the pipe down and lay back and got the patterns, which changed, and I was "somewhere". I cant really describe it. the patterns were there but it was a place. the entities were there, the main one was a definate female. she was touching my stomach area, tentacled fingers were going in my stomach, and it felt like I was having an orgasm the whole time, strange sounds again, just like last time. alien music maybe. this lasted maybe 4 or 5 minutes at most but felt like I was there for days.

when the intense visuals faded and I felt my body, I opened my eyes. everything was still moving. I stood up and I watched the patten of my carpet move and distort in a quite entertaining way. I looked at my hand and it appeared to get smaller and smaller. and then I felt close to normal again.

a little burn in my lips which is gone now, NO THROAT OR LUNG DISCOMFORT WHATSOEVER  :cool: here is still a little liquid in the pipe... I guess I didnt get it all, but I'm pretty sure this was a "breakthrough" the weird thing is the more time goes on the less I remember  :confused:


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    #5377305 - 03/08/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Congrats :thumbup: sounds like a break-through to me.

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(actually it felt like some presence inside the bulb of the pipe itself was telling me to take the third hit)




That's what I really enjoy about DMT, they're always like c'mon take another puff, whereas Salvia can be like don't you think you've had enough already?

I find that unless I'm shrooming or on another tryptamine, the message fades way too quickly...  :frown:


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    #5377311 - 03/08/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Congrats :thumbup: sounds like a break-through to me.

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(actually it felt like some presence inside the bulb of the pipe itself was telling me to take the third hit)




That's what I really enjoy about DMT, they're always like c'mon take another puff, whereas Salvia can be like don't you think you've had enough already?

I find that unless I'm shrooming or on another tryptamine, the message fades way too quickly...  :frown:




actually for some reason usually I dont want to finish my whole dose on DMT... but this time I did. well sort of, I got 3 decent hits, finished most of it.

but yea, it kinda sucks how the memory fades. but DMT is probably my favorite drug now. its always overwelmingly positive for me, I really dont see how comeone could have a bad DMT trip.


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    #5377313 - 03/08/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm gonna have to try DMT + shrooms some time :smile:


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    #5377384 - 03/08/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, you do need to push yourself for that last hit. You might not want to, but I've found you really do need to.


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    #5377475 - 03/08/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Im going to dose 4 grams of my kind head shop owners mushrooms sometime soon. At the peak or just after(any recommendations?) im going to take a 50mg hit of dimitri and see where the trip takes me from there. Theres nothing like a tryptamine feast:) Any advice/previous expericous with this combination. Thanks, il see you all in hyperspace:D:D:D


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    #5377734 - 03/08/06 02:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely get as big of hits as you can, until you are completely gone. I usually tilt my head up or down after smoking and immediately set the pipe down. I'll also share a secret i know (i've said this once before here), but if you touch the very tip of your tongue to the very bottom of your two front teeth (making a vertical connection), it helps me focus on my visions a whole lot more. How i found this out is i smoked a large dose once, my first sentient alien contact experience, and when i came out of it my tongue was in that position and it felt REALLY weird at the time. I couldn't even figure out what i was doing with my tongue and teeth until i was completely sober.

So i tried this again the next time and i had alien contact experience. When i would remove my tongue, the buzzing noise would stop, and my visions would disappear. It's some sort of divine connection. I know other people have smoked it and found themselves in this position, i'll probably meet someone like that some day.


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    #5378053 - 03/08/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wow thats weird... I'll have to try that.


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    #5395282 - 03/13/06 01:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I've heard that you can sprinkle about 25mg into a bowl of weed or joint to spice up a normal stone with some DMT visuals. Has anybody tried this and can give more detailed effects?


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    #5395703 - 03/13/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I've heard that you can sprinkle about 25mg into a bowl of weed or joint to spice up a normal stone with some DMT visuals. Has anybody tried this and can give more detailed effects?




never tried it wiith weed, but low doses are pretty mild. mild OEVs, nice CEVs... im sure it would be fun  :smile:


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