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retrospect
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
#6707738 - 03/24/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah you can vape it, you mean like in a methpipe thing.. i heard it makes the smoke alot worse and tastes awful. what method are you trying? i am going to attempt smoking some spice tonight for my first time, any tips? i will sandwhich it between some herbs or something so the flame cant touch the dmt, is this what youre doing, what problems are you experiencing?
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ItsaMeMario
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6708122 - 03/25/07 12:17 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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i meant vaporizer like volcano. i think i got the hang of the smoking technique it's just the dmt itself. it taste sooo fuckin horrible. definitly not a recreational drug. far from it, dude... far and away from it..
hey, if you do the herb thing with weed, would you be feeling the high when youre coming down from dmt? that would be sweet.
Edited by ItsaMeMario (03/25/07 12:18 AM)
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
#6708652 - 03/25/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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It might sound weird but DMT and Weed don't go greatly together, you're much better appreciating them separately. My technique for break through is to get a nice long or twisted glass pipe and fill the bowl with ash, then a dose slightly more than I know I need of DMT and then more ash on top completely covering the spice, that way you can flick the flame into the bowl with minimal loss and it will heat and melt just as well, plus the ash absorbs the leftover spice meaning its usually good for another hit on its own. According to McKenna one needs leather lungs for DMT, which is true but if you smoke A LOT you won't notice it as much. I can't breakthrough from vaporising, i only get threshold trips. I have heard and would be interested myself in seeing whether or not the Volcanos were good for DMT, a few people report good things on them.
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retrospect
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: j3ckyl]
#6710494 - 03/25/07 06:31 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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whats the difference between a threshold dose and a breakthrouhg?
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6710740 - 03/25/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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retrospect said: whats the difference between a threshold dose and a breakthrouhg?
If you can't tell if your eyes are open or closed, you've broken through. If the visuals take over so much that all signs of the room + ppl + place your in are no longer recognizable or familiar, you've broken through. Roughly. Anything threshold just feels like trippin real hard.
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
#6711198 - 03/25/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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back to extraction question- what happens to lye after recrystalization? i recrystalized my first pull and it left a white film on the bottom of the pyrex which required a hard scraping to get it off. it came off looking like dmt but not sure since from what i know they should only crystalize- not make a flat film like it did. or am i wrong?
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
#6711510 - 03/25/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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i read this is some ways to test for naoh on your product, hope it helps:
1) what did the extract look like; the crystal shape indicates purity; look for long clear 'blades' . Lye disrupts crystals from forming nice and organized, so you get 'cob-web' like crystal growth...
2) taste the extract on your tongue; it's bitter when pure dmt, but really acrid when lye is in there ... but you'd have to do a side-by-side comparison to know pure-dmt 'taste' from impure.
3) There is an easy way to test for lye on your endproduct, put a little DMT on the point of a knife and then put a torch flame (blue) on it. If it becomes yellow for a fraction of a second, there is lye in the product. If it stays blue, its clean.
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i had a dream where i just did a few pulls on my bark and evapped the shellite down. then i put it into a glass jar into the freezer. little white... blob, sort of things were forming, i wondered if it was elf spice? then i woke up.
Edited by retrospect (03/25/07 11:33 PM)
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6711728 - 03/26/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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SWIM is pretty pleased. He think's he's got a small amount of DMT forming now, he was eptecting none.



The jar has been in the freezer for around 4 hours and those crystals are already forming. SWIM wonders if they are DMT?? He hopes so! The amound of solvent in the jar is so small, because he evapped the shellite down as much as he could before freeze precipitating it. If those crystals are DMT, he guesses it's around 50mg? He is not good at eyeballing. Well it looks to SWIM he will at least get a taste of DMT! He plans to leave it in the freezer overnight and filter out the crystals and smoke tomorrow morning. Wish him luck!
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ItsaMeMario
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6711962 - 03/26/07 02:28 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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good luck, dude. like my daddy said, if you want something done do it yourself!... how do you prevent lye from getting in naptha in first place? from your description it looks likke ive beeen getting lye all the time in my extraction cuz my crystals have been nothing but snow globes.
Edited by ItsaMeMario (03/26/07 02:36 AM)
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retrospect
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
#6712002 - 03/26/07 03:18 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Snowglobes like this?
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7967/dsc0035gu9.jpg
Someone just toldm SWIM that leaving it in the freezer for 2 or 3 days will cause more crystals to precipitate.
About the lye, I was under the conception lye isn't soluble in naptha. I have no idea whether my procuct contains less lye or more than yours...
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6712009 - 03/26/07 03:31 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah snowglobes exactly like that. i've been told that the ammonia wash does the trick. i also read something about activated carbon wash. wonder if that soaks up lye. do you know if carbon's suppost to soak up lye chemicals?
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
#6712028 - 03/26/07 04:32 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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this is my first time with any kind of extraction i intend to preform this within the next two weeks as long as i follow the tek should it all work out? i dont have a wine jug or a crockpot so i dont know what im going to do are they necessary?
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retrospect
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: flamebolt]
#6712068 - 03/26/07 05:40 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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ItsaMeMario said: yeah snowglobes exactly like that. i've been told that the ammonia wash does the trick. i also read something about activated carbon wash. wonder if that soaks up lye. do you know if carbon's suppost to soak up lye chemicals?
i don't know about carbons; but yeah ammonia is best for washing out lye. im worrying the crystals in SWIMS pictures arent DMT, everyone's elses crystals look so much different. ahh well, only one way to find out. also, do you know how to eyeball 50mg? what can I compare it to?
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flamebolt said: this is my first time with any kind of extraction i intend to preform this within the next two weeks as long as i follow the tek should it all work out? i dont have a wine jug or a crockpot so i dont know what im going to do are they necessary?
no you just improvise. for acidifying you can boil it on a stove or something if you want in some sort of pot. you dont even need to boil if you cant, it just makes things quicker. you can always let the bark sit in an acid water jar for a few days, shaking everynow then. you can use any kind of bottles or jars you want, just make sure they are either glass, stainless steel or ceramic. using stuff like plastic contaminates the mixture.
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6712118 - 03/26/07 07:19 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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retrospect said: also, do you know how to eyeball 50mg? what can I compare it to?
Theres already been a picture taken of 50mg next to a quarter.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6703866#Post6703866
-------------------- Teonanacatl, open up my eyes This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand Give me strength to find the path Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do Amen
Edited by SDP (03/26/07 07:41 AM)
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
#6712134 - 03/26/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Geez, Sorry! I can't beleive I missed that! What's the diameter of a qaurter in centimetres? Sorry I'm from Australia >.<
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6712144 - 03/26/07 07:40 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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retrospect said: Geez, Sorry! I can't beleive I missed that! What's the diameter of a qaurter in centimetres? Sorry I'm from Australia >.<
It's ok, it's easy to miss in a 10 page thread 
The razor in the pic is about 2 inches across... the quarter is 24.26mm or 0.955 inches. 
-------------------- Teonanacatl, open up my eyes This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand Give me strength to find the path Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do Amen
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
#6712150 - 03/26/07 07:50 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah sorry I just read through the whole thread the other day though, you think that'd stick out considering I don't have scales. Anyway thanks alot man, bvery helpful.
When separating solvent from the black base water using a plastic baggy, I found cutting a big hole made the black water go out much quicker, but made it much harder to stop the solvent running out in time, thus I lost some solvent. Cutting a small hole in order to stop the solvent easier in time meant I had to wait for ages for the black water to drain out. I found leaving a bit of black water in the baggy before the solvent helped me not waste any. Sure when I put the solvent into a jar, there was still a tiny layer of black water at the bottom, but I then re-ran the spearated solvent through a plastic baggy, this time cutting a tiny whole so it came out in drips, but there was only a tiny amount of black water so I only had to wait a few seconds. If you understand what I'm saying, it makes the separation much easier. Unless of course you have a separatory funnel.
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
#6712409 - 03/26/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread is very helpfull. Now I just can't wait to try my own extraction
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: MadSeason]
#6713964 - 03/26/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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what kind of baggy are you using? doesnt the naptha melt the plastic to some degree? i was scraping the crystals with a plastic spoon in the beginning and noticed that the spoon would get a bit soft. so i left a piece of plastic in naptha and overnight it dissolved to half size the next morning.
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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
#6714060 - 03/26/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow i didnt know the npatha was that strong.
just a normal baggy like this:
http://filipinodentist.com/sun/picsinbag.jpg
the shellite wasnt in there for longer than 2 mins. i hope the plastic didn't dissolve into it. i didnt notice and change in the baggy when id used it.
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