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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: j3ckyl]
    #6677061 - 03/16/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

is seperatory funnel a must for best results? i just have a turkey baster with an injection tube right now. if so, will a plastic funnel work? glass ones are hella expensive...


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6677156 - 03/16/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

You can get stainless steel ones at a reasonable price....you can't see into them, but I'd rather use something I knew wasn't going to react with strong chemicals like NaOH...


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6677179 - 03/16/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

No separatory funnel is used, instead, a plastic turkey baster...

For various things (pouring, adding stuff, etc) a plastic regular funnel is used...

Aside from Xylene eating away at the baster, there usually isn't too many problems with extractions using other solvents. Try not to put anything too basic or acidic on the plastic though. A glass one is preferred.

The key with the baster is once you get close to the sludge, you gotta go at it straight on. Use 2 hands to squeeze all 4 lined sides of the baster top then slowly insert baster to where the bottom tip BARELY goes under the naphtha directly in the center of the puddle. Now VERY VERY SLOWLY begin to release the pressure off your hands and draw up naphtha. Going slowly allows the naphtha level to even out and continually get sucked up, as apposed to going fast and creating an area of abnormally low density that gets filled with sludge.

Be VERY careful not to apply any squirt pressure during this phase of this process, as just a little bit of back-pressure can stir up the emulsions since the naphtha level is so low.

If you do get a whole baster full of clean naphtha then just a LITTLE bit of junk at the end, pull the baster up a little out of the naphtha and don't squirt or suck any air\naphtha into\out of the baster. Wait a few seconds and the nasties should settle to the bottom of the baster near the hole, and you can squirt just this little bit back into the jug. A big "Micro-separation" if you will...

And as always for all extractions, its ALWAYS better to leave a little solvent in the jug then to get a little sludge or emulsions.... By the time you've done 3 pulls outta the same material, the amount you will lose is negligible.

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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
    #6678851 - 03/17/07 12:12 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

this thread is helpfull


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: notapillow]
    #6678921 - 03/17/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The man who claims to have first discovered that DMT freebase can be smoked goes by the names of Ayes. He is still a fugitive so he doesn't give his real identity. He has been making DMT for over 40 years. If you want to know what's up with DMT listen to what he has to say. Here are the links to the best papers written on the subject of DMT. Straight up.

http://www.serendipity.li/dmt/sacred.pdf

http://serendipity.li/dmt/weebit2.pdf


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: muistrue]
    #6679123 - 03/17/07 02:05 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

anybody have a good mp3 file about dmt besides joe rogan's rambling? i heard that he was just reciting some famous sage's writings. Im trying to make a cd for some of my friends who are not interested in reading the english language and frankly, I think what Joe Rogan says comes off as a little too agressive. 'SMOKE DMT AND JOIN MY CULT MOTHERFUCKERS!' what? oh also theres gonna be shpongle's divine moments of truth on the cd. i guess that goes without saying tho. so- any other mp3s on intros to DMT and any other songs like divine moments of truth? thanks a lot guys. this thread is making my day, every day.


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6679178 - 03/17/07 02:24 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Have you seen Vortex's Quicktek? It is even faster than this tek and creates succesfully higher yeilds. If you want to take a look at it send me a PM and i'll link you too the PDF.


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
    #6679249 - 03/17/07 03:02 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i found the tek on google. it seems like it's a much easier method indeed and there are lot of testimony behind it. however, it's made to look more complicated by one reason and one reason only. lack of punctuation. i mean the way the tek is written its like it just goes on and on about a single process while backtracking to describe the sidestepped needed for it without giving indications of so so that when i read it i just go like huh where did that step come from and when do i do that oh i gotta go back and read this thing all over again there is no comma! yeah sort of like my last sentece... anyways, seems that a good man named Norman has polished the tek and named it after himself. thanks for directing me toward these guys. im gonna try both norman's tek and mars'.

here's norma's tek

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/doc/nomans_dmt_extraction_tek.pdf

ok, even with norman's tek i still need elaboration on couple things- crystalization and recrystalization. when you poor naptha into jars, do you seal the jars? and when recrystalizing, do you seal that container also before putting into refregirator? and what does it mean by seperating crystal from slag?


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6679306 - 03/17/07 03:36 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Ok I dunno if its ok to post links, but try this pdf

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/doc/vortex_dmt_extraction_tek_bklt.pdf

i read it and easily understood it.


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: retrospect]
    #6679308 - 03/17/07 03:39 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Ok I dunno if its ok to post links, but try this pdf

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/doc/vortex_dmt_extraction_tek_bklt.pdf

i read it and easily understood it.


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6679505 - 03/17/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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ItsaMeMario said:
ok, even with norman's tek i still need elaboration on couple things- crystalization and recrystalization. when you poor naptha into jars, do you seal the jars? and when recrystalizing, do you seal that container also before putting into refregirator? and what does it mean by seperating crystal from slag? 




After several reads, I'm still not 100% on what he means by slag. Its either a slang term for DMT, a slang term like schwag for shitty DMT w/ impurities, or the impurities themselves.

Recrystallization:
Lord Masrsofold says: 125ml of naphtha per gram of DMT for recrystallization.

Do not heat a DMT solution directly.

Put a 1/2 pint jar on a lid band in a skillet & fill skillet up to a couple inches below the rim with water (assuming it doesn't go over halfway up your jar, otherwise stop here).

Turn heat on medium-high and put about 150ml of naphtha into the jar. Let sit in hot water-bath until naphtha is hot.

Take 1 gram DMT crystals and put into a 1/2 pint mason jar. Add 125ml of hot naphtha slowly while stirring.

Cap jar and shake to dissolve crystals.

Tilt jar sideways and look for puddle of yellow oil under the naphtha on the bottom corner. Use eyedropper or turkey baster to reach in and remove this layer from the bottom.

Put in freezer for re-crystallization. Or fridge first, then freezer, if you choose to do so (builds crystals).

Repeat 2-3 times as nesc, even w/o the presence of yellow puddle

Tip: Put container in fridge for 3 hours, then in freezer for 3 hours, then in fridge for 3 hours, then in freezer 3 hours... make sure it ends up in the freezer when you go to bed. The next day do the same thing again, 3 and 3. You can continue to do this for a few days and it should grow some bigger clumps of crystals.


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Teonanacatl, open up my eyes
This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
Give me strength to find the path
Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
    #6679538 - 03/17/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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SDP said:

Freezer precipitation can happen within an hour or two. You can do it at this point, then when you are finished with everything, evap down your leftover naphtha till its supersaturated then put in the freezer for 3 days to pull out any extra.






What about warming the left over naptha up and pouring it back into the saved base solution (where the NaOH was added to acid solution). giving it a mix to pull out more goodies then reducing and freeze precipitating. It seems doing this a couple of times may help. Especially for the low tekies without the proper glassware (mainly a separatory funnel). I have no experience in this, but I am facinated by all the facination. Lovin you


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: mycelialmagic]
    #6679634 - 03/17/07 09:52 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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What about warming the left over naptha up and pouring it back into the saved base solution (where the NaOH was added to acid solution).




This would not cause any direct harm, however, mixing it back in with the base solution will contaminate it with more impurities then it already has, making it harder to precipitate out the really pure stuff. This is why  each pull should be kept separate.

Also, the freeze precipitation is so effective b/c the DMT crystals crash out of the solution while the contaminants remain dissolved. Adding this solution BACK to the mix will just be adding back all the un-needed contaminants to the main solution thus making your subsequent pulls more oily + impure. Especially since the majority of the DMT is already crashed out.

The best way would be to save your Naphtha after you run it through the coffee filter, then put it in 1 cup Pyrex and put that in front of a fan. The Pyrex cup has measurements on it, so you can evaporate down until its about 50ml or less, just a little little bit. You can then put this back in the freezer for 2-3 days, strain through coffee filter, then discard the naphtha.

You can also just evaporate down this left over naphtha in a small Pyrex glass baking pan until there is none left. You will likely be left with SOME crystals and and oily residue, but commonly there is just an oily residue. You can also try adding all the leftover naphtha from all the pulls and evaporating that together in a dish. :mushroom2: :heart:

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Teonanacatl, open up my eyes
This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
Give me strength to find the path
Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
    #6679845 - 03/17/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Heres some pics that might help.

1-Gallon Glass Jugs (Organic Apple juice mmmmm):



Good ole' Roebic brand Lye:



Solvent separation on heat bath (Jug on lid bands, jug cap loose!):


Pyrex 4-cup on bands in heat-bath. Decent for reducing naphtha (just a fan is optimal, as heat can damage alkaloids):



Reducing\Evaporating Solvent (use an identical but way smaller dish for DMT extractions):


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
    #6690103 - 03/20/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

how do you guys measure out milligrams? is there an easy way to do it besides buying $200 scale?


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6690134 - 03/20/07 12:33 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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how do you guys measure out milligrams? is there an easy way to do it besides buying $200 scale?




SWIM got theirs for $100 at the local smoke shop...

Start with about the mass of a pencil eraser, then work your way up from there.

Take a normal scale and put something on it to get it workin (some kinda card will work) then put your DMT on there until it raised .2 then divide that in half. 100mg each. Divide again for 50mg. :shrug:


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Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
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Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: SDP]
    #6690270 - 03/20/07 01:28 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

yeah i thought about dividing too- first making a line like with coke. except that my starting point would've been 1g lol. so a mass of a pencil eracer is about 50mg? i'm about to start the extraction RIGHT now. wish me luck, man. you've been a lot of help.


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6690550 - 03/20/07 05:14 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

which step is most crucial for pureness of the extraction? if it's the last step supersaturation, i may have an idea- salt water. the freezing point is lower so half-tubbing the pyrex in it would bring the temp even lower than what the freezer is offering.


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6690635 - 03/20/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The seperation of naptha from lye is crucial for purity.


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Re: Marsofold DMT extraction question [Re: ItsaMeMario]
    #6690670 - 03/20/07 07:22 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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salt water.




Negative... use distilled. You don't want to risk salt ending up in the final product...


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Teonanacatl, open up my eyes
This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
Give me strength to find the path
Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen


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