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boletusoftruth
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DMT TEK
#7595247 - 11/04/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay I've been trying to think of an effective and efficient way to extract DMT and this is what I have come up with. Its basically the lazy man's tek with an added de-fatting step to help with a cleaner product.
1- Grind up Mimosa Root Bark
2- Add Naptha to remove oils\fats
3- Basify to put spice into freebase form
4- Add Naptha to extract
5- Freeze precipitate, or pan evaporate.
This should lead to very clean product correct? I skipped all the acidifying steps, so it should be quicker as well. I didn't list any amounts cause they can easily be found with google. Is the Naptha before basification going to lead to a cleaner product than just the regular lazy man's tek? Comments appreciated.
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boletusoftruth
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And what is the acidic bath in the first part supposed to accomplish in most teks?
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nux
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This second step (dry defat) looks attractive, but in my experience it was not very efficient.
In the last extraction i made, using the straight to base method, i made 3 dry defat with naphta, 2-3 days each, and what i got was only sligthly yellow naphta. As soon as i put the base liquid i got a dark orange naphta layer. I got rid of this layer because it was too full of fat to even think of evaporating it, and i lost 300-400 mg of DMT in the process... (according to the yield i got, compared to previous yields)
I think that some fats are kept in the MHRB cells, and the only way to release these fats/oils in to go through a acid phase,in the case of acid/base extraction, or during the basification step, in a straight to base tek.
Maybe freezing, before dry defat, can also release these fats, but i never tried it. Actually i have some MHBR powder in the freezer waiting for the experiment...
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Re: DMT TEK [Re: nux]
#7597381 - 11/05/07 04:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The acidifying step is required during a defat because it ensures the DMT is in salt form. In salt form DMT is soluble in water. This is good for two reasons: One, the DMT is extracted more easily from the bark if it is soluble in water and two, because DMT salt is soluble in water, it stays behind in the water when you add the naptha for the defat steps.
Then in order to get the DMT out of the water you need to turn it into base form in order to make it insoluble.
But that's specific to Acacia bark and not MHRB. The DMT in MHRB seems to be soluble in water to begin with and there aren't as many fats, making the acid step and defatting in general useless.
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Mr_DeeMsTer
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where did you get the mimosa bark? i may have to experiment with this, instead of getting the shit online.
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Robo
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Quote:
boletusoftruth said: 1- Grind up Mimosa Root Bark
2- Add Naptha to remove oils\fats
3- Basify to put spice into freebase form
4- Add Naptha to extract
5- Freeze precipitate, or pan evaporate.
This should lead to very clean product correct? I skipped all the acidifying steps, so it should be quicker as well. I didn't list any amounts cause they can easily be found with google. Is the Naptha before basification going to lead to a cleaner product than just the regular lazy man's tek? Comments appreciated.
A solvent wash of the plant matter beforehand isn't totally necessary, but you can do it if you want, I suppose. I'd suggest doing a solvent wash at the end to your crystal product on some filter paper in a funnel, or you could do a wash with a 1:1 ammonia/water solution. You'll get a nice clean product guaranteed.
This is the basic idea, except you would not be doing a filtration/removing solid from liquid: http://orgchem.colorado.edu/hndbksupport/filt/filtration.html
No need for a buchner funnel or Erlenmeyer flask, either. Just use any old normal funnel positioned to drain into say, a mason jar or similar vessel. Fold your filtration paper as shown in the link.
Edited by Adagio (11/05/07 05:15 PM)
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boletusoftruth
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Re: DMT TEK [Re: Robo]
#7598936 - 11/05/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Robo
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For wanting to measure accurately down to mg you really don't want to go for a "bargain" scale.
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boletusoftruth
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Re: DMT TEK [Re: Robo]
#7598983 - 11/05/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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True, I'm looking for a ball park tho. Where is the fun in weighing things out if you dont know if your wrong? Thats what adds to the excitement
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DeathCompany
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not when it can kill you.(other rcs, not dmt)
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boletusoftruth
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For me this scale is nothing more than DMT, shrooms, and weed. It'll suffice
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Robo
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Quote:
boletusoftruth said: Where is the fun in weighing things out if you dont know if your wrong?
You'd never find out you were wrong, you'd be dead
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Robo
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Quote:
boletusoftruth said: For me this scale is nothing more than DMT, shrooms, and weed. It'll suffice
Most definitely
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boletusoftruth
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Robo
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You could weigh down to 0.1 mics
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Re: DMT TEK [Re: Robo]
#7599092 - 11/05/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha but americanweigh is a good site though.
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Edited by DeathCompany (11/05/07 04:05 PM)
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boletusoftruth
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Who here does have a milligram scale anywho? I feel even a crappy milligram scale is better than a centigram scale. And weighing out 5 centigrams is like 50 milligrams correct?
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Robo
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I just got a new scale recently
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boletusoftruth
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Re: DMT TEK [Re: Robo]
#7599138 - 11/05/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Price, accuracy, links? Im still looking around, I don't have my heart set on the crappy one...
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Robo
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Price varies (got it in an auction) .001g
http://balance.balances.com/scales/906
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