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xmush
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Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)?
#5307702 - 02/16/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi all, Went hiking in my favorite hunting spot again today and again was not disappointed. I found these orange guys growing out of a dead log. This log was in a brushy area at the edge of a trail in an emerging pine forest. The gills were attached but not decurrent. The stems were very short relative to the cap size. The caps are somewhat wavy, and are darker orange at the edge. The cap was dry, and mostly smooth. There was no visible bruising, but the gill edges darkened after picking them. In the pic of the mycelium, it seems that the mycelium had a hint of blue to it. The spore color looks a bit orange, but after printing for 3 hours I don't have much of a print on white paper. I'm not sure if the orange on the paper are spores or just the color of the shroom bleeding onto the paper. The smell was a pleasant mushroomy smell, very mild. The taste however was incredibly bitter. I have found Hypholoma fasicularae in the same area, as well as Hypholoma sublateritium - those are also both pretty bitter mushrooms, but absolutely nothing like this one. Here are the pics, hopefully I'll have a better idea of the spore color later tonite or tomorrow.





Thanks everyone xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: xmush]
#5307805 - 02/16/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those are very likely of the genus Gymnopilus, but I don't know which species.
I would not eat them, but I would remember the spot and check it again when conditions are favorable. If they are active Gyms, bluing will be more evident in the immature specimens.
They also appear to be rather dry. You might get a better spore print if you wet the tops of the caps.
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xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: shroomydan]
#5307818 - 02/16/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks shroomydan. They were indeed pretty dry. I did dab a drop of water on one of the caps. Also as you can tell from a couple of the pics, there are several pins coming up. My fear is that they are aborted though based on how dark they look, but I'll check back periodically.
xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: xmush]
#5308516 - 02/16/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wipe your finger across the paper where the print should have been, if you get white on your hands then they're not Gyms, but Jack-O-Lanters, which are poisonous. If the print does end up being orange, they're gyms... again, no clue on species.
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xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: Gumby]
#5308730 - 02/16/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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They are coming out more orange, but I've put a cap on black paper too just to be sure. I had considered Jack-O-Lanterns but the one's I've seen have had very decurrent gills and these were merely adnate. I guess being older, semi-dry specimens they might just not have a lot of spores to give up.
thanks xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: xmush]
#5308867 - 02/16/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah... the gills on Omphalotus would be far more decurrent... some people actually mistake them for chanterelles.... the color is very jackolantern like. In my experience Ompholotus fruits exclusively on stumps and the base of trees, I think finding it on down logs would be highly unlikely. Last night i just heard a story about someone eating Omphalotus... they didn't find the experience pleasant
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xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: georgeM]
#5309839 - 02/17/06 09:08 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, the spore prints were definitely orange, so it is probably some kind of gym. I'll keep checking the spot to see what those pins do over the next few days and maybe I'll have a day of magic fun coming up!
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: xmush]
#5313171 - 02/18/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks similar to Gymnopilus sapineus which grows on pine logs. I don't think G. spineus is active.
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xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: falcon]
#5313370 - 02/18/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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It does bear some resemblance to those falcon, thanks. I don't think I'll be sure of the species unless I look at the spores under a scope, see some young-uns bruise blue, or try a bioassay (although only on some blue stainers).
xmush
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: xmush]
#5314032 - 02/18/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im not one to Id them but they sure look pretty
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Re: Unidentified Orange Mushrooms -- Gyms (probably not)? [Re: xmush]
#6420631 - 01/03/07 02:48 AM (17 years, 30 days ago) |
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my GUESS would be Gymnopilus validipes.
reasons: descriptions of validipes state:
stem: 1. base often dingy brown 2. firm solid stem often swellling in the middle slightly (the pic of the one in his hand)
gills: attachment adnate to uncinate, think, close to subdistant, yellowish white becoming cinnamon with maturity.
habitat: widely distributed throughtout north america. found on hardwood logs, stumps and debris.
if those pins mature and you see some bruising then you're set! i've read that bruising in Gym's in dependant on temps. the colder the easier they bruise.
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