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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Swami]
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science is only a way of re-explaining the explanation..

:confused:

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
BZZZT! You broke the rules!

Science bashing in this thread is allowed only through using means not devised by science.  :tongue:


Rules are for science.  Therefore it is unscientific to break the rules.


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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Swami]
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The rules for this thread are simple. You may slam science, scientists and the scientific method, but you may do so only through using means not devised by science.


You think you have created some kind of paradox?

The method of using logic to come to conclusions has far predated Science (the Scientific Method) aka empiricism.

Rationalism was the name given to this method.

A system of order to come to conclusions does not imply Science.


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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Silversoul]
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Therefore it is unscientific to break the rules.

Is that a rule?  :rolleyes:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Diploid]
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Here's a good one: Try Bashing Reason. The rule: Disparage and slam reason all you want, but you must present your bashings in such a way that is completely divorced from reason - defined as our faculty of concept-integration and formation.




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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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This is like Bizarro world...;)

"Bizarro love reason because it makes angry blue bubbles."

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Veritas]
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oaisnv' av painmfgbpnar inabiunoin' o' 234't 'a b'knadfb0 ;l,

I think that is all that needs to be said about reason.

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Veritas]
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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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mr. scientist needs to be openminded to things that are not under his jurisdiction

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted"

other than that, science is great, it attempts to understand the unknown, just most sciencey people are far far too closed minded to anything having to do with occult mysticism, or new age or magic stuff

hate to say but its true


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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: TheGus]
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Albert Einstein quotes are so last week.

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: TheGus]
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Have to disagree with you.  I have met far more closed-minded people who claim to be New Age mystics.  They are not interested in exploring any further than the latest guru tells them to.

By contrast, many of the science- and reason-oriented people I know are actively exploring the possibility that there is more to the world than we can see.  The difference is, they continue to reserve judgment on things which cannot be proven.

It is just as closed-minded to say "it cannot be proven, therefore I will dogmatically believe it is true," as it is to say "it cannot be proven, therefore I will dogmatically believe it is untrue."

:shrug:  Personally, I prefer to work with the "best guess" method on things which cannot be proven.

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Veritas]
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Since science is organized around rules, I'll be unscientific and ignore the rules for this thread.

There are many ways in which science has become as dogmatic as religion. There is a tendency in modern science to assume atheism, materialism, and determinism to be true, and will adjust its theories to make the data fit those assumptions. This is, of course, where I am breaking the rules, because I am accusing modern science of being unscientific.

So there!


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To criticize scientific acitivity (Science) as a whole is equivalent to volunteering to be burned at the intellectual stake. In other words, the one defending science doesn't even need to defend it: they need only to state self-obvious presuppositions they've been indoctrinated into believing from family, state, school...even religion. The one attacking science must go against an entire tradition -- that tradition will resist and beg for proof after proof after proof when itself will never have to provide any in the debate.


I am going to bash science unscientifically by simply repeating what I heard somewhere and not give ANY sources or references for where I got my information...


oh and as for reason....



I think that takes care of that!


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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: dr0mni]
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EEWWW!

[Dip crosses himself and gets out his Rosary Beads]


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

Edited by Diploid (12/28/05 09:05 PM)

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Swami]
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Some of the biggest idiots i've ever had the pleasure of hearing talk were scientists at university and hard science students. Understanding the scientific method means you also understand its limitations. No, Mr.Scientist you are not the beacon of rationality, quite the opposite from what I've found. You are great at understanding the basic elements of the natural world. But when things get complicated, the scientific method is useless.

Science is worthless in philosophy and spiritually, its a dead end.


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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: looner2]
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looner2 said:
Some of the biggest idiots i've ever had the pleasure of hearing talk were scientists at university and hard science students. Understanding the scientific method means you also understand its limitations. No, Mr.Scientist you are not the beacon of rationality, quite the opposite from what I've found. You are great at understanding the basic elements of the natural world. But when things get complicated, the scientific method is useless.

Science is worthless in philosophy and spiritually, its a dead end.


That made the most sense of anything you've ever said.


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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread *DELETED* [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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Post deleted by Lakefingers

Reason for deletion: No reason.

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Lakefingers]
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"Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you
how it ends.I say there are some things we don't wanna know! Important things!"-Ned Flanders

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Lakefingers]
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PURPLE FLOWERS IN SUNLIGHT ELATED WRATH OF JOY

OK. Now share that picture with us without using any technology.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: Swami]
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Science is a method of covering up untruth. It will always be directly related to the acquisition of money. Why else can people heal themselves, when they lose hope in the doctors who are supposedly helping? This is my experience...human experience...reality. How can you have faith in science when it is simply arguing with reality?

Scientists believe in this imaginary thing called disease, which can be "cured" with the right regimen of liver toxic drugs. Oh yea, and why are doctors rich? Perhaps it is because "health care" is the greatest scam ever created. Look at cancer, it is the disease of all diseases...there is no cure, we use radiation to kill the cancer and the patient. What a genius idea, science has triumphed. This great age of science and "progress" has brought about a lot of interesting ways to screw people over. This is the obvious failure of science, bringing about anything worthwhile. It sure makes people feel important though, and wastes all of our time.


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"For I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
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Re: The Official Science Bashing Thread [Re: SmokeOnMyMind]
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It will always be directly related to the acquisition of money.

Like the guy, Darnok, that patented the making of fire some 30,000 years ago? Wonder what his family gets in residuals...


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The proof is in the pudding.

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