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The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread
    #1604075 - 06/03/03 11:46 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I'd like to start a thread dedicated to people's coincidences based off of a topic started by a fellow shroomery-go-er. Please include any co-incidences you feel are outside plain chance.

I'll start below...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1604078 - 06/03/03 11:47 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Today when I got into my co-workers car, the song "Just another manic Monday" was playing on the radio... When I got home, my cousin, who lives in Vancouver (I'm in Calgary) had her MSN Name set to "~Just Another Manic Monday~"

Iinnnteresting....


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1604254 - 06/03/03 12:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Grav became a moderator for this forum and I am leaving for 1-2 weeks.

[smacks forehead]

What a coincidence!

Catcha on da flip side. :wink:


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: ]
    #1604319 - 06/03/03 01:14 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i was just talking to a friend online, and said
'i think i want a bagle"
and he said
'mine's alread toasting'

yep...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: soylent_green]
    #1604364 - 06/03/03 01:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

my dads funeral, afterwards, his friends were leaving (they were all fag-bikers)...well they were reving up their Harleys (showing off i thought), and i said to my brother, "i wish he would fall off", 3 seconds later, somehow the bikle becomes unstable, it sways a few times, then throws him off...OUCH!
My fathers spirit giving me one last wish because he was a motherfucker and i never knew him, or damn good coincidence? you decide!


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1604549 - 06/03/03 02:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

My sister and I both had the same dream and told each other about it at the same time, each of us finishing the other's description of it.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Adamist]
    #1604743 - 06/03/03 03:19 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I downloaded the song "Echoes" by Pink Floyd one day, and the very next day, my friend on AIM recommended the song to me. It was weird.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1604801 - 06/03/03 03:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

When I was in High School, my best friend and I used to play around with a Oija board(well, actually it was called "Psychic Circle," but it's the same basic idea) while listening to Led Zeppelin, and sometimes the board would spell out a word, and just then we would hear Robert Plant sing that word. This happened on more than a couple occasions.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1605036 - 06/03/03 04:38 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

My wife and I both had an orgasm at the same time...


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Evolving]
    #1605040 - 06/03/03 04:38 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

... However, we were in seperate cities.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Evolving]
    #1605162 - 06/03/03 05:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

This is for Kottonmouth:

Today me and my best friend both had the same dream, which was a very unique one and we haven't talked to each other in two weeks (he's been outta school) so there is no way there can be a scientific explaination saying we recieved the same subconsious info.

That ones not that great but this one is. I forgot that for my math class I was suppost to being in a form of currency from somewhere other than the US and for history I was suppost to bring in something old from either the US, Canada or Mexico and talk about how it has effected the world... I realize I dont have the thing for math and I ask to go to the bathroom, walking down the hall are these two girls coming my way and one goes "here you want this canadian coin?" I said sure and took it and it was a pretty old coin and I was able to use it for both classes. How fucking crazy is that?

Damn it, there was one other thing that happened I was thinking all day I gotta post it here but now I cant remeber :frown: I dunno why I have such trouble remebering these things...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1605165 - 06/03/03 05:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Hrm..so many...I'll just go with the ones that I remember most clearly.
Once a few years back, whilst tripping with three friends on LSD.. we were standing at a park and we see a car drive by (was about 3am), we all look at each other funny and say simultaneously that it would be weird if that car just crashed into a tree or something. Not five seconds later after it had driven out of sight, we hear a loud *CRRRRRRUNCH~!* and run around the corner to see the car had nailed a parked truck. We were stupified.. the guy got out of the car and was obviously piss drunk, could smell the rum from 10 feet. Anyways, as it turns out, after the cops showed up, they found a girl passed out in the middle of the road not fifty feet up from where the drunk crashed. If he hadn't crashed he would have most likely run her over.

Then there's the countless other "coincidences" that happen so often it just seems normal. I'll post them as I remember them.

Great thread by the way.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1605489 - 06/03/03 06:27 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I just had a coincidence event happen about half an hour ago. 


I was on my way just driving while listening to a CD I had downloaded a while ago.

[Edit*  Actually, I didn't dowload it, I copied the CD from a buddy of mine...  He made the initial download/ upload....  whatever... .]

Anyways...



There is this one song where the singer sings: " Nothing is real, but the girl..."

As soon as she sang that part, a car passed me in the left lane with a licence plate:  HER2BE. 

[ The car had a check mark on the rear window ALA Nike style ( The window was "checked" off. ).  The Car was a White Grand Prix ....    That's french for BIG PRIZE !! ] 


It made me smile.  :grin


[ Edit #2*  I am upgrading this now to what I mean when I use the word synchronicity...  ( The three rule has been exceeded... It should at least be met to be validated )  ... The most interesting part of this is a detail that I'm using to have it pointing to me;  it is rooted in the symbol on the back window: The check symbol...    It's kind of funny, but it seems kind of more personal, now,  that I consider it, because of one small fact:  I am 100% Czech.  :tongue: ]

>>> I just got chills up my spine <<<




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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Evolving]
    #1605549 - 06/03/03 06:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

... However, we were in seperate cities.

*Hangs head in shame* I have a confession to make...



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Swami]
    #1605766 - 06/03/03 07:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i've had a couple dreams come true too.
one about a friend trying to kilhimself,
one about a friend running a stop sign and getting cought..
and other really small ones,
like me getting a drink of water wearing the same clothes my mom in the same spot in the kitchen..
feels kinda like da ja vu sometimes...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: soylent_green]
    #1606123 - 06/03/03 10:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

My third time ingesting psilocibin I stood starting at a mirror with a window to the side...I saw movement out the window as a small blue pickup with a topper went by. I resumed looking at the mirror and as soon as I focused back on my image I saw movement and the exact same "reality clip" replayed from the way I looked at the truck to the way it splashed through a puddle...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1606579 - 06/04/03 01:04 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I was asked in a PM to comment on this thread. I have covered this topic many times in many ways and the rebuttal remains unchanged.

1. Coincidences are always noted "after the fact".

2. Trillions of non-coincidences are NOT noted. (i.e. a song was played that had no meaning at the time)

3. There are no "rules" for a coincidence so that any two items may be matched up. To use a tangential analogy: any three points make a triangle.

4. Meaning and importance is personal, not inherent.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1606757 - 06/04/03 02:24 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Well, a good friend of my little bro just died unexpectedly, I was outside my house drinkin a beer, and the thought of him popped into my head, I poured out a little bit of beer for the guy, looked up at the sky, and BAM, I looked up just in time to see a shooting star.

I'm sure there's a rational explanation though :-o


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: ]
    #1606953 - 06/04/03 03:40 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I drank a few beers yesterday and after an hour or so, I had to urinate...
TALK ABOUT COINCIDENCE!!!


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: ]
    #1606995 - 06/04/03 04:06 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Well, a good friend of my little bro just died unexpectedly, I was outside my house drinkin a beer, and the thought of him popped into my head, I poured out a little bit of beer for the guy, looked up at the sky, and BAM, I looked up just in time to see a shooting star.

I'm sure there's a rational explanation though :-o


yes there is a rational explanation. didn't you read Swami's list above, specifically #2.

imagine that you looked up at the sky and BAM!!! NOTHING! just the night sky staring back at you. you would have thought nothing of it and forgotten it right? how many times have you looked up at the sky and DIDN'T see a shooting star? countless times... but we only remember the coincidences, which makes us believe that coincidences are everywhere.



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Swami]
    #1607012 - 06/04/03 04:15 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Coincidences are always noted "after the fact".




as are every other instance of human perception


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1607068 - 06/04/03 04:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"how many times have you looked up at the sky and DIDN'T see a shooting star? countless times... but we only remember the coincidences, which makes us believe that coincidences are everywhere."
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No.

I fail to see what you are saying.

When I look up at the night sky, I tend not to expect anything but twillight...

I don't see how you get to that part: "...which makes us believe that coincidences are everywhere "...



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1607076 - 06/04/03 04:43 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

selective memory


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1607212 - 06/04/03 07:11 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Swami: im sure everyone only takes these things 'in good fun'.
its just something of a 'weird' factor...whats the chance of mine happening? Id say pretty low, but there couldve been something scientific abnout it, like maybe our brain picks up on smaller things than we know, maybe my brain saw the mud, the road, the bike, and somehow knew hed fall off (without me consciously knowing it)...its just interesting.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1607460 - 06/04/03 11:37 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I drank a few beers yesterday and after an hour or so, I had to urinate...
TALK ABOUT COINCIDENCE!!!




Sclorch - I'd aprpeciate it if you refrained from mocking my post...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1607767 - 06/04/03 01:44 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Oh sweetie... it's just a little humor... lighten up m'kay?
*pets nubious*


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Sclorch]
    #1609521 - 06/05/03 12:08 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah, I remeber another one. I was listening to this techno CD my brother burned me that I had never heard before and my friend was laying down tripping telling some story of nothingness and I was talking to my friend online who wanted to know what to name this comic of his about this tekki guy (like the hawiian mask wearing ppl) and all of a sudden it comes to mind and I type "it began in africa" as my friend says thats where the universe began and the music stopped playing and said it. Then my friend online said the samething that second to so I didn't have to come up with a name...

Then he goes "woah! just as I typed that the discovery channel said 'it began in africa'" :shocked: Thats wwaaaayyyyy too many it began in africa's for me to not believe in co-incidences....


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1609594 - 06/05/03 12:30 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

lol ok this is freaky! that song just came on after i read your post!!!! (i have my list on random)
hah how cool is that?

my other one for today was, i rented the cube, got home, a friend called and said he tryed to rent the cube, form the same movie store but it was gone, cause i had just gotten it...
woooo!


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1609632 - 06/05/03 12:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I fail to see what you are saying. When I look up at the night sky, I tend not to expect anything but twillight...

Hmmm, let's see. The earth accumulates hundreds of tons or more of space debris every day. The average shooting star is the size of a grain of sand which translates to hundreds of thousands of shooting stars per day with 6 billion people each assigning some miraculous coincidence to a normal occurence.

You might as well assign meaning to a specific raindrop that landed on your nose.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Swami]
    #1609692 - 06/05/03 12:57 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

so here u are !
wraped up in some meaningless dialogue about grains of sand :grin:
do u realize that the people have spoken ? There is a thread dedicated
in your honor... we await the sacredness of your presence...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Swami]
    #1610060 - 06/05/03 02:58 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"hundreds of thousands of shooting stars per day with 6 billion people each assigning some miraculous coincidence to a normal occurence."
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Wow !!! Hundreds of thousands eh? Every day !? Seems the coincidence is more so that I don't see them so regularily then...




"You might as well assign meaning to a specific raindrop that landed on your nose."
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How does that philosophical saying go again... It would go so well with what you just said.... Oh ya!!! ... [sp?] ... reductio ad absurdum.




Our friend was mentionning that he poured some beer for the little guy, and that is when it happened... the shooting star.

Although there is no evidence that it was intentionnal, it happened "right on cue".
Like on the movies... It's symbolic.

Obviously it was a personal "sign". I hope you realize that that event was not meant for everyone. You couldn't have. I dunno why I even just typed that.
There is no doubt that it was a personal association. So many people could have seen the same star and it meant nothing to them... It wasn't their coincidence to see.



That's the thing though... coincidences are wierd like that because they don't appear to have a major connection... it isn't obvious for everyone many of the times... In terms of: What does it all mean?

That's the nature of coincidence.



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1610083 - 06/05/03 03:05 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

heh, I think you pretty much explained coincidences here:

"it was a personal "sign". I hope you realize that that event was not meant for everyone"

in other words, the connection is made in your mind, not "out there".
I'm not trying to invalidate the experience, just putting it in proper perspective.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1610121 - 06/05/03 03:21 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"in other words, the connection is made in your mind, not "out there".
I'm not trying to invalidate the experience, just putting it in proper perspective."
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Suppose you and I were standing in a room full of people. Someone in the front of the room said something that you didn't agree with. You proceed in name-calling. And then, while you were taking a sip of water, you got hit in the back of the head with a crumpled up paper... HARD.

THere are several conclusions that you could come to in your mind. Maybe even one of them would be that it stemed as a result of the name-calling.

Yes, the connection is made in your mind. But that is as far as it would go. It would be nothing more than a coincidence for you. You'd have no link. Several bystanders may have even witnessed it. But it was a personnal message meant only for YOU.

You would never come to know the why... So I guess you would let it go, then.


But you know... I wanted to give you a message... I made that message happen for you. I crumpled it and then threw it at you after your "nasty and uncalled for remark".



Since there is almost no way for anyone to link that shooting star with the beer and the little guy... it becomes difficult to discuss.

None the less, it was a PERSONAL message.





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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1610162 - 06/05/03 03:38 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

How can we know that the crumpled up piece of paper that hit us in the back of the head was really meant to strike our head and not the wastebasket two feet away from us?

Unless we are supplied with evidence of intention, such happenings cannot rightly be viewed as inherently meaningful (personal or otherwise). Inherent meaning is different from subjective meaning. Choose your words carefully.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Sclorch]
    #1610193 - 06/05/03 03:46 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"How can we know that the crumpled up piece of paper that hit us in the back of the head was really meant to strike our head and not the wastebasket two feet away from us?

Unless we are supplied with evidence of intention, such happenings cannot rightly be viewed as inherently meaningful (personal or otherwise). "
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That is exactly it !!! 

Coincidences are events where no link is established. 

I chose my words correctly.  Coincidences do not supply evidence of intention.  They leave you hanging so to peak.

I believe that is the nature of a coincidence.

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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1610781 - 06/05/03 08:53 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

wow! nice thread...i tried to keep a diary of sycronicity/coincidences for a while and i found the more i noticed em the more uncanny it all became...then i got slack and stopped writing em down.
Don't you find that you can only really remember the last couple that happened to you?
as if youre brain has a filter that stops you from getting too cought up in it or sumthing.



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1610880 - 06/05/03 10:59 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"You might as well assign meaning to a specific raindrop that landed on your nose."
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How does that philosophical saying go again... It would go so well with what you just said.... Oh ya!!! ... [sp?] ... reductio ad absurdum.

Please explain why a glowing piece of iron hundreds or more miles away is more relevant (or less absurd) than a drop of water falling from the sky and ACTUALLY contacting you?


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: KinNorvernMonkey]
    #1611771 - 06/05/03 03:45 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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wow! nice thread...i tried to keep a diary of sycronicity/coincidences for a while and i found the more i noticed em the more uncanny it all became...then i got slack and stopped writing em down.
Don't you find that you can only really remember the last couple that happened to you?
as if youre brain has a filter that stops you from getting too cought up in it or sumthing.



Something like that. For some reason I cant remeber them too well, even the big ones. And they should be sticking out in my head big time...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Swami]
    #1612189 - 06/05/03 05:59 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"Please explain why a glowing piece of iron hundreds or more miles away is more relevant (or less absurd) than a drop of water falling from the sky and ACTUALLY contacting you?"
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Normally it is not.

Out there in space, it is "raining" just like it does here. It DOES happen all the time.

So generally speaking, it means nothing other than that a bunch of "debris" has moved from an origin somewhere and crossed the trajectory of Earth.

Just like when it rains here, you are bound to get hit... and eventually, wet. There's no mystery behind that.




Going back to the example, because I still think that it is the reference point of this specific discussion...

There is a certain amount of symbolism associated with seeing shooting stars; especially single ones [ just for illustration, I'm going to say once more, like in the movies ]... Although it is not specifically spelled out, there is a certain amount of "specialness" that has been attached to them.

The thing here is, it depends upon the context. It was an event that played out on-cue, coinciding with thought coupled with action. The pouring of the beer was a personal gesture to the little guy, and the passing of the "star" was a symbolic "thank-you" that only meant something to one person.



Usually it is personal. However it is not necessarily obvious as to why it happened.




The concept of coincidence desent really tell you any kind of story in any depth.


For example: It rains and at the same time the sun is out. What a coincidence, a rainbow can be observed.

Schlorch mentionned an interesting one also... Drinking alcohol, a diuretic, and shortly after, needing to go to the little boyz room.



Both of those events, at one time in the past would have resembled the concept of coincidence. The rainbow until it was explained must have seemed magical to observe; The discovery of a new "drink" must not have been linked to an increase in urination right away... But I'm sure it became obvious pretty quickly.


So, I think that, the concept of coincidence is rooted in an event that occurs, and the view [perception] of it is that of a superficial observation.



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1612316 - 06/05/03 06:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Seeing a shooting star is much rarer than getting hit with a drop of water on the nose for most people. The 2nd one happens all the time, the 1st one has only happened 3 times in my life for me. The last time was on my birthday...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1612342 - 06/05/03 07:01 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

coincidence is the choreography

synchronicity occurs with the human perception of that choreography

synchronicity is different than coincidence, since coincidence occurs without any subtextutal data (which occurs with synchronicity)

so what does it matter if the things align and mean something to someone, completely subjectively - but may not carry any objective basis ?


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1612352 - 06/05/03 07:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

on the morning of Nov 18th, 2001, I saw THOUSANDS of shooting stars from a dark mountaintop, 8000ft above sea level. it was an incredible display of nature, but I didn't see a reason to attach any special meaning to it.


I guess because nobody I knew died that night.. or something


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1612364 - 06/05/03 07:08 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"I saw THOUSANDS of shooting stars from a dark mountaintop, 8000ft above sea level."
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Oh WOW !!! I wish I could have been there too ! That must have been simply AMAZING !!!!!



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1612383 - 06/05/03 07:18 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/leonids_wow_011119.html

http://skyandtelescope.com/news/archive/article_228_1.asp

yeah it was awesome...  the 2002 leonids didn't come close to that :frown:
the next big show will happen in 33 years or so. don't miss it or you'll have to wait another 33 years :wink:


and btw, on an average night, you can see several meteors per hour if you happen to be paying attention so it's not all that rare.



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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1612402 - 06/05/03 07:27 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The summer before 9th grade I met my best friend Devin. About a year later his mom came to pick him up and it turns out our moms already knew eachother. Then Devin says he remembers seing me one time when his mom brought him to work, which then sparked my memory of the same day.

Also when we were on a bus one time we saw this kid walk on and I'm like "I kicked that kids ass in 6th grade, when he had a mullet," and Devin is like "woh I kicked his ass when I was in 7th grade."

Those arent the only 2 by far but those are the ones that stick out. I've also gotten mass deja-vu.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1612693 - 06/05/03 09:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I was going to a family barbeque with my gramma :crazy:  and before we got into her car I had this strange feeling, like we were going to get in a crash or something. I said to her, kind of jokingly, "Hey gramma, we're gonna get in a crash"
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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1613692 - 06/06/03 03:30 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Seeing a shooting star is much rarer than getting hit with a drop of water

Go outside more often after dark away from light pollution. You can see one almost every night.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Swami]
    #1613912 - 06/06/03 05:03 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

ive seen about 3 shooting stars in my life (not including the night there were meant to be LOADS)

i do enjoy looking at the stars (i have a telescope), altho i dont spend every night, all night out there.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1613957 - 06/06/03 05:30 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

interesting thread
When I was in 5th grade I was on the play ground running around with a jolly rancher in my mouth. I had pissed the big school bully off earlier in the day by hitting him in the face with a dodge ball (unintentionally). So Im running around at reccess when I start to choke on this piece of candy. I stop for a second not knowing what to do and thinking I should run to the teacher on the other side of the playground, when all of a sudden a fist hits me in the stomach causing me to expel the candy onto the culprit. Which turned out to be the bully. The bully had got his payback but he may in fact have saved my life. Kinda stange. I consider Steve one of my best friends now and he still claims he didnt know I was choking at the time and just wanted to beat my ass. He hasnt grown much since the 5th grade and Im 6'4" now he considers me the bully.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1613961 - 06/06/03 05:37 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, the leonids were awsome.
Here's a coincidence fer ya...
It was cloud covered in Massachusetts (where I was at the time)
and so we were told we wouldn't be able to see a thing. Hence
I planned to be snuggled up in bed snoring away. However, that
night I had a dream that I saw a huge leonid meteor and that it had
come especially for me... at that instant I woke up... it was 4 a.m.
I walk out in my jammies and stand there blurry eyed and freezing
for a few seconds... next I see a huge falling star blazing through
the cloud cover. Excited, I get dressed, all bundled up, hop in my
Miata, drive to an open space on a hilltop, put the top down and
proceed to wait for another hour without seeing a single other lenoid...
My friends say that the dream was a sign, the lenoid, had traveled
throught the cosmos only to blaze through a cloudy Massachusetts
sky so that I might get a glimpse of it... romantic... yes...coincidence... YES !
I've had some pretty wild coincidences, most of them dreaming predictions,
one of them particularly stands out since I have proof of it and it's probability
can be easily calculated. However, I completely agree with Swami...
The deal is that in a population of Billions and "on a long enough time line"
according to plain ol statistics and the bell distribution curve, something seemingly
amazing WILL happen to someone !
someone WILL win the Lotto in the near future !!! garunteed !!!! to him/her it will
be the most amazing "coincidence" ever...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Swami]
    #1613985 - 06/06/03 05:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Seeing a shooting star is much rarer than getting hit with a drop of water

Go outside more often after dark away from light pollution. You can see one almost every night.



I go outside almost every night but I live in a city so I have light pollution like most people here. Which makes it harder to see the stars, so 'seeing a shooting star' is still rarer.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1613988 - 06/06/03 05:55 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

join the Internaltional Dark Sky Association. not that your skies will get darker or anything, but they just have such a cool name!  :cool:

 


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: lucid]
    #1613993 - 06/06/03 06:00 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The deal is that in a population of Billions and "on a long enough time line"
according to plain ol statistics and the bell distribution curve, something seemingly
amazing WILL happen to someone !
someone WILL win the Lotto in the near future !!! garunteed !!!! to him/her it will
be the most amazing "coincidence" ever...


exactly, it's just pure chance. amazing stuff happens all the time.
but I don't mind if people attach personal meaning to coincidences  :smirk:
as long as they keep it personal.
 


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1614112 - 06/06/03 08:50 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

you could say statistically itll happen, bu thten again, look at the universe...its so vast and amazing that things like that -shouldnt- happen...or maybe they should...maybe the whole 'intelligent design' thing....fuck i dont know what im talking about :laugh:


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1614453 - 06/06/03 01:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Seeing a shooting star is much rarer than getting hit with a drop of water on the nose for most people.




Meteors cross the sky all the time; usually, there's one at least every few minutes. Sit out in a dark place some time and see for yourself. During a meteor shower there can be as many as four or five a minute.

My point is that they're not rare events, they're just rarely noticed.

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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Diploid]
    #1614830 - 06/06/03 04:07 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I notice them all the time. I always have.


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Evolving]
    #1614899 - 06/06/03 04:42 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Today while working i unexpectedly started whistling a guitar riff that i hadn't heard in a very long time

a classic one

i couldn't remember at all what it was from...


then i get home and listen to what i'd been downloading while i was gone..... - les claypool's fearless flying frog brigade - shine on you crazy diamond (live @ bonnaroo)

about 10 minutes into it the very same riff that came to me earlier that day starts playing...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: Diploid]
    #1614926 - 06/06/03 04:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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My point is that they're not rare events, they're just rarely noticed.



I know, thats what I'm saying, I agree with you. But since its all we know is from human prespective its all the same shit anyways. Just like the tree falling in a forest w/o people, does it make a sound? Who gives a fuck, I'm sure trees fall all the time but how often do you hear one fall? It wont matter enless you hear it. Hearing a tree fall w/o people chopping it down is rare for people no matter how many tree fall a min in the wild...thus we still consider it rare.
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Which makes it harder to see the stars, so 'seeing a shooting star' is still rarer.




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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: DailyPot]
    #1614933 - 06/06/03 04:56 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking of two songs I haven't heard in along time, We build Castles in the Sky and Do you think you're better off alone, and they both came on right after the other I hadn't heard either one in nearly a year...


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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: nubious]
    #1615263 - 06/06/03 06:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

they keep happening recently...or is it just me noticing things more..or am i looking too hard? MSN names..few happened involving those...


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    #1759449 - 07/29/03 01:45 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: The *OFFICIAL* Co-Incidences Thread [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1759601 - 07/29/03 03:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Alright, prior to this event I was having a crisis of meaning in life. 'Nothing matters in the end', 'all things are impermanent', blah, blah...you know how it goes. But it was really getting me down and I had a long talk with my wife about it. At the same time my dog Ginger was sick and getting sicker by the day.

Now, by all accounts Ginger had given the rest of my family a real hard time - barking and running off - and my wife really wanted to get rid of her. I explained to her that if we took Ginger to the pound she would be killed and that what she really needed was training and patience. Also, the idea that we should just rid ourselves of whatever lifeform displeases us is just dark. But it remained a constant personal battle of mine to keep Ginger from certain death for the sake of convenience.

Despite her misbehavior, Ginger really was a very loving and inteligent dog. She had a tangible spark of life/light/consciousness that I was really able to connect with and she really loved me.

So, as I said, Ginger got sick. Really sick. The vet found some sort of mass by her heart which was obstructing her breathing. The medication didn't help and within a week she became much worse. I decided it was time to relieve her of her suffering so we took her in to be put to sleep.

I'm no stranger to death, but death isn't something you readily get used to either. As she was on the table and they began the procedure I kept looking into her eyes, talking to her and petting her. The instant she died, I understood the difference between what is alive and what is not. First there is fur, alive and vibrant with energy, and in an instant it is a pelt, dull.

I subscribe to a cheesy daily e-mail letter of 'inspirational' quotations and stuff. Usually quotes from Einstein, Rumi, Ghandi, Lincoln, that sort of thing. But the day after Ginger went to sleep when I got into my office the inspirational quote was titled 'A prayer from a Dog to it's Master'.

It was written from a dog's point of view toward it's master and the final paragraph went like this:

..."And, beloved master, should the Great Master see fit to deprive me of my health or sight, do not turn me away from you. Rather hold me gently in your arms as skilled hands grant me the merciful boon of eternal rest... and I will leave you knowing with the last breath I drew, my fate was ever safest in your hands."

I printed it out and brought it home for my wife to read. She said it was a lesson from the universe - that what I do really does matter, that the universe (or Ginger) was saying 'thanks for caring'.

Now I know the argument Swami and others are making and to an extent I agree. Ultimately it is up to US to decide whether something is 'just' a coincedence or a true cosmic synchronicity with a message. To me it was a cosmic synchronicity because that whole event tied so many things in my life together with such beauty that it felt bigger than me. I just can't do it justice trying to explain it.

That the sun rises at the same spot on the horizon during the summer solstice every year can be reduced to just a physical fact. Nonetheless, many, many cultures have decided to imbue that fact with meaning by buiding monuments and celebrating it. Making it meaningful binds people to an unseen source of order and intelligence and helps them to identify with it.

The universe gives us facts and events but it is us who give it meaning.


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