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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: DLittle]
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No i am not on E. Im from a non english country and i dont really care. I am sure if all where as peaceful as you they would legalize lsd in no time in the usa.

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: alienbaby]
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just out of curiosity, what country are you from alienbaby? oh, and my thoughts on the subject at hand....different people have different uses for drugs, and to turn around and say that another persons way of doing somthing is wronge just gos to show you that people like hitler are still out there.


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: alienbaby]
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Fay ?e que vouldras.

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Do what you will.

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: Fluxburn]
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Fluxburn said:
alienbaby said:
I can summon up to one word what psychedelics have learned me: LOVE!.

not to pass judgment and believe that I'm better than others


But you can't spell for a rats ass. 4 misspelled words in 2 sentences, that must be a word record?




ummm... please sat you didnt mean world?
:rofl:

anyways,
this thread is retarded and pointless, the replies, the topic, all of it, retarded and pointless,

there is no point in blaming what people are doing now for anything to be illegal, these things were made illegal years ago, and most of the drug laws had nothing to do with the actual actions of the users, it was mostly political moves for votes, you should really all know that


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i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: incubaby_421]
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Some more of Flux burns genius:

Fluxburn





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Re: My letter to SalviaSupply.com [Re: foxracinfan567]
#4993056 - 11/29/05 02:51 AM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply



Yah but I think they should advertise the hell out of salvia. Could you imagine how many people we could scare away from drugs if thier first drug experience was Salvia Divinorum!!!!! That is what they should make children smoke when they are in 5th grade to scare the living shit out of them so they don't ever want todo drugs again. Hey it would be a much more effective policy for the USA then just say no haha.

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: InjectTruth]
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First off let me just say that I didn't have time to read the WHOLE thread so excuse me if there's anything that's already been covered, etc in my post.

At first I really agreed with you that there were way too many irresponsible people using psychedelics and it was giving us a bad name. But then people started bothering me, a lot, and now I'm starting to view drugs as more of natural selection addapting itself to kill off a species that has more or less done a pretty good job of minimizing their risks of death by getting hunted by a larger animal, or otherwise, you know, the kind of stuff that most animals usualy have to worry about.

This is probably a pretty flawed opinionand and it's probably inspired by my general mood at the moment more than anything else, but the way I see it is that irresponsible people do these drugs and they end up doing irrisponsible things, what with law of averages a few of these people will probably be killed off by these irresponsible actions, sure it gives drugs a bad name, but whatever, if some idiot manages to light himself on fire while on E because the fire didn't hurt at the time then good, one less idiot reproducing, ending an entire generation of idiots, I consider that a favour to everyone. The fact is that the government (in the US more specificaly) is pretty narrow minded and just generally doesn't give a shit about the truth and would much rather just tell everyone what they want them to believe just because it makes their job a lot easier.

If all of a sudden the use of drugs was permitted for licensed individuals it would pretty much divide up the country. Considering how many people are dead against drugs and who believe that drugs are a sin, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the sudden legalization, or attempt to educate people about drugs set off some sort of genocide in the name of the lord or whatever, attempting to wipe out all the sinners using drugs, not necessarily because these people are uneducated, but because they're ignorant, they've had certain values hammered into their head from birth, and anything else to them is just frightening, wrong, and evil. Of course problems wouldn't just arrise with religious people, there are lots of people who might potentialy start causing problems if drugs were legalized, I just really don't feel like going into this argument much more than I already have.

Personally I say let irresponsible people do their drugs and hopefully they pick a few of eachother off in the process, as for the likelyhood of drugs being legalized (for most parts of the world) I wouldn't get your hopes up, we've dug ourselves into a hole and it doesn't look like we'll be getting out of it any time soon without dividing entire countries, or any other large consequences.

I'll probably look back on this post and think that it was a pretty stupid thing to say, but yeah, not feeling very people friendly, and right now it just seems like all problems can easily be solved if people would stop thinking soo highly of themselves, and would stop putting such an irrationaly high value on human life

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: Fluxburn]
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Fluxburn said:
Yah that is right. Psychedelic drugs are illegal because people do they with reckless irresponsibility. If you have to defend yourself against this comment the you are exactly who I don't like. Your the reason why they are illegal. If you read this and say oh that doesn't apply to me then you are on my level. Just like the stupid alcoholic that can't handle his shit and gets DUI after DUI, I don't like you morons who use psychedelic drugs and give us credible users a bad name.

I think that psychedelic drugs should be treated with utmost respect and that the users should have higher standards. This way we can be looked at by society as better then alcohol because all the idiots can just drink and ruin thier lives.

So could all psychedelic drug users that are irresponsible either A. change your behaviour to highly responsible or B. go find another place to make yourself look like shit because we don't need to look like shit as a community.

Thanks.


Ok, so there's your opinion. It's a very STRONG opinion... which lacks any kind of reference or substance whatsoever. The comment is more like, "I know what's up and you don't, you're wrong." Which says what about your attitude, and that taken in to account, who's to say you're not the irresponsible psychedelic user. First off, you never state what behaviors you think merit 'irresponsible psychedelic use' and you set no examples through your incoherant ramblings in which the only point is: You're mad about something and you wish to blame somebody else, although you're lacking a good amount of factual basis for your outrageous theories.

So if you don't "like me" because I like taking psychedelics, well, you can go ahead and just go fuck yourself. This board encourages people who want to do psychedelics to due so with the necessary information. To know what it is they put in their bodies, to know the effects of that said compound and be able to deal with them in a responsible manner. How does coming on here and ranting about how stupid everyone is going to change ANYTHING? All you've done is successfully pissed a few people off, your wonderful point never got across. A pointless rant for somebody who takes psychedelics for pointless reasons, I might as well point fingers too since that's what we're reducing ourselves too. Psychedelic drugs are illegal because of fear.


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: Fluxburn]
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Yeah we should get rid of the negative image of psychedelics, but the way to do it isn't by telling people to get lost and not associate with us. We need to push for more education about how psychedelics affect people and how their misuse can be detrimental to a persons mental health.

My definition of misuse would be something to the effect of "taking them in excess, often, over a long period of time, and/or in a negative set and setting".

Recreational v. Spiritual = not an issue.


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: Fluxburn]
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I was smart...I read up on shrooms b4 i tripped. I gathered as much knowledge as I could be for I took my first trip. And to this day my first trip was the best and most spiritual trip I ever took.
I also introduced shrooms to my cousin and actually made him read a section of one of my books on what to expect and how to control a trip (mood, setting etc.)
Know what you are getting into and be ready and able to control it if something goes wrong. Use Psychedelics as an aid rather than a drug!
It's OK if you want to experiment with drugs.
It's when you begin to dwell on them drugs,
THAT'S when it's time to stop! -- EDDIE


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: PsilocybeSmuggla]
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gosh darn, get this man some ego-death....fast

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: foxyhotme]
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all i want to say is who gives a fuck if psychadelics or just drugs for that matter are illegal? The cia has long been implicated in importing cocaine and heroin, the reason weed,shroomz acid etc is illegal,is because they provoke thought rather than dumb it down,and the criminal government can't completely control the supply. The prohibition laws against illegal substances are lobbied every year by government drug barons and pharmacuetical companies that want you taking their addictive mind control drugs. If it is illegal who cares the laws are written by power mad hypocrites. Do what you do, live free and be careful. everyone that enjoys drugs know the risk involved with consumption.


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
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TOILET, i love you!

rips, you ar exactly correct, in a way, though it is pure speculation, when the schaffer commision originally examined these substances, there was little to no actual research, chemicals that bear no similarity whatsoever were grouped together (i.e. THS and opiates), it was simply something the reagan administration did to pool votes, nothing more, nothing less,

however, i have to agree with you on the point that these drugs (esp. LSD and mushrooms) remain illegal becuase of thier ability to expand the consciousness, the government doesnt want us to be enlightened and intelligent, they want us to be numb and dumb so that we will work for them intead of againt them

lots and lots and lots of good books on this topic, i suggest you all head to you local library


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"yet the more i dig, the more i consume, the more i unfold... the less protected i feel.
i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: incubaby_421]
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I would write alot, except I'm chilling after my all Canadian cigarette :smile2:

I'll write something later, but I like the point you bring up... it is all about responsibility of self asserted actions...

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: psychedelix]
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say NO to drugs.
no wait it should go...
say KNOW to drugs  :bow:


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Diploid said:
What's with proclaiming freedom by abridging freedom? That makes no sense.

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: Fluxburn]
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Re: Fluxburn. Who the hell do you think you are? Are you the arbiter, judge and jury?? If people want to use drugs just to get off, have a wild time, laugh like loons then there is nothing wrong with that....

Spirituality and deep trips are often a by product of people just wanting to trip out, escape, mess around - whatever. Drugs are not illegal because a few people make a lot of noise, they are illegal because the powers that be don't want a society that realises that we are all one conciousness and War, Hierachy, the economy, the weapons industry, commerce is just one massive confidence trick and we are all being f**ked over, daily.

Go and masturbate over a picture of yourself, whilst you are having a 'serious' trip.

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: InjectTruth]
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InjectTruth said:
People, do me a favor, search fluxburn's posts around here and OG.  You will see that there is little coherence to any of his thoughts.  Its best not to encourage him.  PSA


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: TheStudent]
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Wow, it gets even better. You will LOVE this thread,

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum6&Number=5027104&page=0&fpart=1

This is fluxburns thread, called "I have a big dick" in which, he posts a picture of his dick, which is immediately laughed at and called small by everyone. Everyone then starts pointing out what a homo Suxburn is, and tells him to go away.

Oh yeah, suxburn, stop pming me, asking me how old I am. You are a fucking homo retard. You might as well quit the forums, and save yourself whatever embarrising moment you are going to inflict on yourself in the future. PS. Im 21, and shutting you down, fucking retard.


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individual casts off outmoded and restricting standars of
thinking, dress, and social etiquette in order to express
CREATIVELY his relationship to his immediate environment and
the social structure as a whole.

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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: InjectTruth]
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well I am 24, and your a little baby!


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: Fluxburn]
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Fluxburn said:
Yah--YEAH-- that is right. Psychedelic drugs are illegal because people do they--DO THEM-- with reckless irresponsibility. If you have to defend yourself against this comment the--THEN-- you are exactly who--WHOM-- I don't like. Your--YOU'RE-- the reason why they are illegal. If you read this and say COMMA QUOTE oh that doesn't apply to me QUOTE then you are on my level. Just like the stupid alcoholic that can't handle his shit and gets DUI after DUI, I don't like you morons who use psychedelic drugs and give us credible users a bad name.





How are you going to correct other people's spelling and grammer?  :rolleyes:Syntax nazi!


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Re: You shouldn't do psychedelic drugs, you're the reason why they are illegal in the USA [Re: Fluxburn]
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Fluxburn said:
alienbaby said:
I can summon up to one word what psychedelics have learned me: LOVE!.

not to pass judgment and believe that I'm better than others


But you can't spell for a rats ass. 4 misspelled words in 2 sentences, that must be a word record? You did too much ecstasy, maybe catch up on the 3rd grade writing level.


Judging by the way you're post's are worded I would say 1 of the 2 following assumptions are true.

1.) You are about 12 years old, and or....
2.) You were not born in the US and haven't quite yet mastered our language here.

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