sandman_130 said:

I think you are way out of line. Common users of Pyschedelics are smart, have planned and accurate trips that often result in an beautiful experience full or learning, spirituality, and enlightenment.

It's FUCKEN NOOBS who hear about people seeing evles and cartoon characters and they wanna get fucked up!

IF EVERY MORON WHO WANTS TO TRY PYSCHEDELICS WOULD RESEARCH THEM ENOUGH AND KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO WE WOULD NEVER HAVE THESE PROBLEMS!

I SAY THE GOVERNMENT INVESTS IN A "LISENCE TO TRIP CARD"

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I agree.  Only a few bad apples can ruin the bunch, it's not everyone.

Fluxburn said:

Of course if you do not use the drugs for spiritual beliefs then you have no credible reason for doing them. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4988102#Post4988102

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Let?s see????.you are upset that the government polices your spiritual use and/or possession of psychedelics. Therefore, you blame recreational psychedelic drug users and wish it was they who were policed.

Great!
Do to them?. what you don?t want done to yourself, eh??

1. Would you like to have your personal values forced upon the whole country or are you thinking global?

2. How would you propose regulating ?SPIRITUAL USE ONLY? psychedelics?

3. No recreational use for marijuana according to you, eh?

4. No MEDICAL USE for any psychedelics either, according to you?????!!!!!!!

5. What about native Americans or other cultures who use might use psychedelics in spiritual AND SOCIAL ceremonies??

6. What about children, (from above mentioned cultures) who are given psychedelics as part of that cultures ?norm??

7. What about those who use them recreationally, spiritually, and medically?

8. What happens if you take a dose and it wasn?t strong enough to be spiritual, do you go to jail?

9. How do you define ?spiritual use??

10. What if someone?s definition of  ?spiritual use? doesn?t agree with yours?
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I am not a historian but it doesn?t take CSI to see the motives behind the illegalization of psychedelics.

Let?s see it was the late 60?s, there was a war going on, and drug use became mainstream. There was lots of civil unrest, (anti-war, civil rights, feminism, anti-establishment, racial issues). And let?s not forget the music?rebellious and violently offensive to the previous generation

The lawmakers and those of power were the parents and grandparents of the generation that was running around in flip flops and body-paint. Let?s put this in perspective of the time and place?ok?

That means the ones making the laws, or pushing to have the laws made, were predominantly- white, male, conservative, protestants. I don?t know how it was when you were young but when my dad was mad at me he would take something I liked. He often times took and found my stash.

Spiritual use?.hmmmm? Did it ever occur to you that spiritual users are the reason why they became illegal?

Let me explain something to you in case you were not aware?.conservative Christians are not very tolerant of spiritualism. Anything associated with spiritualism is frowned upon. That includes Oprah Winfrey and Harry Potter and most certainly any drug that has roots in shamanism, etc?

Ever heard the word ?demonized? used in association with such drugs? That is because much of the conservative Christian group, (especially older Christians and most certainly the generation that made the laws approximately 35 yrs ago), feel such drugs that  are ?of the devil?. Those hippie heathens!!!

Your spiritual use may be more noble than those who take them just to have some fun. But, it was probably their spiritualistic history, and the free thinking that came from it?s spiritual use that got them illegalized.

I propose; the fact that they are used spiritually was the catalyst that prompted their illegality. So blame yourself!

alienbaby said:

I can summon up to one word what psychedelics have learned me: LOVE!.

not to pass judgment and believe that I'm better than others

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