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Anonymous

VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM
    #499220 - 12/23/01 11:44 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I have been debating over the fact of whether or not I should come out with
this information, and after seriously contemplating it, I have decided to
blow the whistle.

Has anyone ever been aware that many of the spore vendors are involved in
price fixing? And when moderators and so called "prominent members of a
community agree with a so called "reputable" vendor, the masses tend to take
their word for everything they say. This even includes me (until now that
is).

When someone sells a certain strain for a lower price, the "reputable" spore
vendors, and prominent members of the community are quick to say that they
are suspect of the new spore vendor, their prices etc. We have all seen this
happen. Then they say the quality is poor and that you probably wont receive
your orders. They also say in a public forum such as this, that they don't
know how "xyz vendor" can sell for such a low price & cover their cost. That
kind of rhetoric will cast a shadow of doubt amongst all of us. Why? Because
the spore vendors and prominent members in their inner circle know that we
as individuals will put faith in what they say. But Since they are all
involved in the price fixing, they will support each other. We all think
that because the "reputable" spore vendors and prominent members have been
around and know what they are talking about, which is somewhat true, that
their views and opinions are mostly true.

Many of the so-called "REPUTABLE" spore vendors are involved in price
fixing. Yes, they all agree not to sell certain strains below a certain
price. This means we as customers get screwed. From this day forward, we
should be suspect of any spore vendor or person that tries to discredit
another. Especially an individual person who has never done business with a
vendor they are trashing. When this happens, it usually means that the spore
vendor being attacked isn't part of their circle. It's obvious that spore
vendors do not like true competition, but as we all know, when there is true
competition, we as customers benefit.

I'm just extremely pissed off that spore vendors indulge in price fixing. I'
m also pissed off that people slander new spore vendors but never actually
tried their services. Since most of us as the populous do not want to buy
from new spore vendors, we are only making it possible for the price fixing
to continue. I personally have no problem trying new vendors, the more
competition the better. We as a community must put a stop to this price
fixing. Use our own spore prints, trade amongst ourselves and boycott the
mainstream spore vendors, and support the ones who are not well know. If we
all did this for some time, we will truly see fair prices for spores prints
and spore syringes.

I know I'm going to receive a lot of flack for what I'm saying. I know that
there are going to be a few spore vendors who will present themselves as
such and flatly deny what I'm saying. There will also be spore vendors who
pose as individual people and discredit what I'm saying. Then there will be
those who legitimately disagree. But you know what, that is expected. But I
truly ask everyone as a community to really consider the information I had
given to you.


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Invisibledimitri211
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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499228 - 12/23/01 12:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

There will also be spore vendors who
pose as individual people and discredit what I'm saying. Then there will be
those who legitimately disagree. But you know what, that is expected. But I
truly ask everyone as a community to really consider the information I had
given to you.


The only problem I have with what you are saying is that you chose to use a sockpuppet to make your claim like a chicken shit pussy.

I feel you are only here to start shit rather that make a true and correct statement come out of hiding and show some heart.

Until then I hope this post will not get much attention


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Invisibledimitri211
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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: dimitri211]
    #499230 - 12/23/01 12:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

On top of that I have a feeling that you are a vendor with a failing business and made this post so that you could answer it and make yourself come out looking like the top DAWG or honest vendor.

Please get some guts and post honestly under your real nick.


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499233 - 12/23/01 12:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You are really talking out of your ass I'm afraid to say. How about you support your allegations with some actual quotes or how about some links pointing out these so-called statements. You accuse others of slander...how ironic. Look the word up in the dictionary some day.

However, I couldn't care less. What I do know, and it's obvious to me, that no one here feels like the are being ripped off when they can feel comfortable sending their money to a reputable dealer and expect a reasonable print in return, a print that is actually from the particular species that they are interested in. Also, I don't know what you've been smoking or I guess I'm not as smart as you, please explain to me: How does a customer get screwed paying $20 for a print? Buy one print and it will replace itself infinitely. Besides, prints have been these prices for years. Do the math. Infinity divided by any number is still infinity.

I say to you sir, life is too short to concern yourself over such trivial things. Go live your life and let others get on with theirs. I think it's fair to say that you could be doing more fulfilling things. It's obvious that there's something missing in your life. Go find it and breathe a breath of fresh air.


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: Nighted]
    #499307 - 12/23/01 01:58 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

"Infinity divided by any number is still infinity."

What about zero! ;)


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: Olgualion]
    #499314 - 12/23/01 02:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i've got a solutioin to this......

make your own damn syringes from your own prints from your own mushrooms.


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499320 - 12/23/01 02:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I see price fixing as a consequence of the comercial system, it has positive and negative effects as any other aspect. You remarked its negative effects, on the positive side it means the market has reached some stability goals, price fixing lets the consumer be asured that he can claim for quality, as he espect all vendors (as they have the same prices) should have high standards. Also every buyer has the right to complain publically if he gets a low quality product, right now the market is stable and confident, what else do you want ? I think we are not playing in the ram modules market, there's no need for a price war, as a consequence we could have some people out of business and i still like it when people grow a B+ from Richy and realises it's diferent from the B+ from Sporeworks, diversity . Imagine McDonalds goes out of business, i don't like Bugers King hamburgers.

Peace,
MAIA


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: Olgualion]
    #499322 - 12/23/01 02:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

"what about zero!"

i thought zero wasnt a real number or something like that... but i droped out at 16, so what the fucc do i know...


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InvisibleJared
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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499323 - 12/23/01 02:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

If I recall correctly.. Anno used to offer prints and syrings for much much less than other vendors... I don't recall any circll illuminatic group trying to discredit him.

You're wrong.


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InvisibleMajortrippz
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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499437 - 12/23/01 06:12 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

It's your risk to take when ever you order anything from the web or anywhere... do your research, make your purchases and stop whining...

This is, after all, a representative republic that touts that we are free to do as we feel fit, with in predefined limits, of course. Tthe constitution should read "He who has the cash is king and everyone else, well, fuckem"


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Anonymous

Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499479 - 12/23/01 07:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Lets see, $12 for a spore syringe, a case of beer, a gram of pot or a pizza. Hmmm....tomorrow morning I could either have a hangover, a couple roaches, ringburn or the beginning of an amazing science project which will keep me in free mushrooms for the rest of my life.

If the vendors could fix prices, they'd fix that price a lot higher!

Now get back in that laundry hamper you bad sock!


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499489 - 12/23/01 07:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Wow.

What a surprise. The term "price fixing" can be applied to a lot of diferent situations. The "market" is allowed much flexability in the US. However sometimes business people can take things to far and get greedy. An example: A few years ago a major huricane hit Florida and some ass-holes got busted for price fixing.... They were driving around selling TAP WATER out of the back of a truck for outragious prices (like $5.00 to $10.00 a gallon to very desperate victims (many were homeless at the time). The goverment needed to step in, this is simply not right.

However, generally speaking, most business'es will settle for what is known as "the going rate". This does not mean that the people are conspiring with each other directly. It's just that the market has settled for a price.

Fuck, why is it no one here yells at the pot growers? I mean, it dosent cost that much for some dirt and a seed.


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Anonymous

Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: Jammer]
    #499583 - 12/23/01 09:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Don't all the vendors sell their spores for different prices? Where is the price fixing?


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Anonymous

Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499598 - 12/23/01 09:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

If you want to sell cheap spores noone can stop you!!! No matter how hard they bash you, LOL. Advertise, deliver what you offered, and people will buy from you.
I think you will find, that after advertising, and making or buying STERILE prints to sell, and making a profit, your costs will end up being very close to the established vendors. Which are extremely cheap in my opinion!!!!!


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: 3ptCrown]
    #499600 - 12/23/01 09:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Infinity divided by zero is undefined, since anything devided by nothing cannot be defined. Zero is a real number. An imaginary number is like taking the square root of negative four, which is 2i, since you can't take the square root of a negative number. This number would not be considered a function since there are two solutions to one input, thus making the solution an imaginary number.


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Anonymous

Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499615 - 12/23/01 10:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

You are free not to buy, no one is holding a gun to your head.

I'm a relative newbie, before my first try I researched as many
vendors as I could on the internet and found prices ranging
from $15 to $60 (not including the spore ring). I have no
problem paying someone for their efforts and experience if
they can do something for me. I also have no problem
refraining from a purchase if I think the price is too high.

I think you're just another whining socialist who thinks he's
entitled to have others do all the work but not charge for their
efforts (you probably think that "from each according to his
ability, to each according to his needs" is a great concept).

If you don't like a price, don't buy it. It's a simple as that. If
you can do better, do so and one day I and many others may
be your customers. It's called freedom, take advantage of it
while you still can.


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InvisibleThorA
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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499629 - 12/23/01 10:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Whistle Blower = Nushroom aka MicronMagick or McMan aka Myco-Tek

Keep it up boys, ban ban ban ban....

Have a nice day.


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Anonymous

Post deleted by Anno [Re: Thor]
    #499653 - 12/23/01 11:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: Thor]
    #499662 - 12/23/01 11:24 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the "heads up"

Happy Holidays!


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Re: VENDOR PRICE FIXING SCAM [Re: ]
    #499664 - 12/23/01 11:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

try being here wading through shit.

i promise you its worse than being accused or accusing anyone.


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