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Products vendors can provide to improve community
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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: World Spirit]
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i like the way dr. bluthumb has all those cool extras like oyster shell, etc etc... i think other vendors should link to him for those random products :wink:.. or maybe they should carry some of those things themselves.  either way, i think vendors are doing a damn good job at their job :cool: good job!


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: World Spirit]
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I think they should give you a sringe wen you buy spores from them.
I want to bild a methane power scooter for my gas problems cuz i saw it on TV.

How can I became a vendors? if I can sell my scooter I will be rich for my selfg anfd famly

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: geokills]
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Thanks Geo Lana (myco supply) does carry brf and oyster shell and rye grain.

The only diff is they are bulk but still they are offered
Thanks for the idea


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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Dimtri how do you g4et to be a vendoers?

Did you learn how to from The Shroomrey?

Maybe you can teach me to be a vbendors?

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Powerdong. You just need to post in mush cult a lot and help
newbies and then start offering spores. Anyone can be a vendor
as long as they have access to spores. Being a cut throat prick
seems to help too.

Make a dozen sock puppets that are always there to support you.
This is very important. Some vendors even offer the mods money
to get rid of their competition. Nice guys huh?

I think vendors give a free t-shirt with orders of $75 or more.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: PGF]
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Make a dozen sock puppets that are always there to support you.
This is very important. Some vendors even offer the mods money
to get rid of their competition.

I hope this is not directed to our site wew do not and will not ever use sock puppets to promote anything.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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what about the t-shirt thing?


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: PGF]
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That's cool ummmmmm the only ones I have on hand now have those yellow dingy armpit stains on them but if you spend 75.00 I will give all of them to you.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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Hmmm, well, you need to drink more water if you have dingy yellow pit stains.....
too much coca-cola .......


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: PGF]
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hmmmmmm I don't drink soda the shirt thing was lol. I think we should see where thor and 3d are at with the shroomery t-shirts I would love to give some of those away.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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In reply to:

I hope this is not directed to our site wew do not and will not ever use sock puppets to promote anything.



LIER !

You picked up that trick quick back when you were power spaming that pitifull list of your products. And you have never stopped.

Stop fucking lieing.


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Edited by JackMehoff (11/03/01 03:07 PM)

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: JackMehoff]
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I am sorry that you have trouble reading but this is not for you to voice your opinion so go away


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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You guys should just do it. I mean if you have the money print up a shroomery t-shirt....maybe 40 or 50 shirts. They will all sell. Then, when Thor and 3D are ready to do one, they can print up one too.....

More is better.

I would do it if I had an outlet I could dispose of them through...I do not wish for these children to know my name or where I live.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: JackMehoff]
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And I would ask that you post my sock puppets as well as your problem in a pm stop feeding us your bs


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: PGF]
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somone find a design and a lay out and i will check into it.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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Just ask in OTD for a design....I know there have been at least a dozen designs made....there are a ton of great artists around here.

If it were me (i used to print ts), I would ask for a simple "three" color design (4 at the most) to be used for a t-shirt. You do not want too much fine line detail......then take it to a shirt shop and get the pricing on 4 dozen.....make sure you get to keep the screens afterwards and then you can make more yourself at home....

You could even go ultra cheap and get transfers...Some high quality transfers look as good as screen prints and can ;last a long time...


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: World Spirit]
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They are taliking about tshirts in the sugestion forum.
Sorry for being here before and not right ok?

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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I did not know that huh!! did you post it or am I just late in finding out??
I truly did not mean to forget you.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: ]
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power dong is very strange,

i think i like him


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: World Spirit]
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This would help:

#1: Only sell 100% sterile syringes/prints.
#2: Stop passing the buck when syringes/prints are not sterile
#3: STOP WAITING 5 weeks before shipping without an email!
#4: Stop misleading customers
#5: Treat a customer as a customer not a "want-ta-be"


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Edited by Jammer (11/03/01 07:11 PM)

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Jammer]
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nobody mentions price does everyone think all the prices are fair??

and how about suggest more items what might be needed or wanted by you for vedors to add


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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I will give a free sock for your puppet with every order over $50.

Just mention when ordering and prefered size and colour as well as the name of your puppet.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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Most of the vendors pay $3 for cub prints and$4-5 for Pans.

How about if they doubled the price they paid the printers and sold cub for $6 and Pans for $8-10??

Now theres a concept.....

MM



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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Mr. Fryd]
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i wouldlike to see more of the places carrying agar


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Mr. Fryd]
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I like this concept.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Mr. Fryd]
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That one you need to get the atention of a spore supplier and if you find one to agree POST IT I think everyone would like that idea(me included)


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: dimitri211]
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Its true, they dont want to pay shit for prints.

I am not being a prick, im just saying how it is.

You have these people offering you almost nothing for your prints and pics, then selling and posting pics of the nice mushrooms 'they' grew.

All the time the grower is setting there with 20 tubs of Psilocybes in his spare bedroom, taking their goddamn prints for $3 a pop. I know, I used to dumb enough to do it. Finally wised up and here I am. It is not worth the risk to the grower compared to the price they WILL pay if they are caught growing the goods.

I say either give the growers their cut or lower the price. It aint that expensive to buy a roll of stamps, and the express boxes at the post office are free for fuck sake.

This is directed at no vendor in particular, in fact I know that most of them do this.

Just thought you loyal customers should know the score. And you kids who think it would be neat to sell prints to your favorite vendor, let me tell you this, the 'new' wears off the gig pretty quick, and your putting your ass on the line for a little scratch and a vendor who cares about nothing but 'when are those prints gonna be ready'.

MM


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Mr. Fryd]
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This revelation is a bit disheartening.

Maybe Ralphster will consider this.

He says he's in it because he just loves spreadin them spores.

Surely other vendors would follow suit.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Mr. Fryd]
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Also, on a sidenote, I think it is funny as hell that Ryche sets different prices for his various strains of cubs.

A good grower can take any strain of cub and get a nice flush if hes worth his salt. A little agar work and viola!!

Well, I take that back, some of the pf strains are very substrate specific and youd have to stoop to growing pf to make them work for you. Bulk print makers cring at the idea of having to waste space with a tub full of cakes. Cake yeilds, in case noone has noticed are shithouse. Sure youll have the occasional good producing cake, but come on..

That being said, and myself and alot of others know its true, what the hell is going on Ryche??

Why are some strains of cub worth more than others?

I challenge you to give me an answer that is not utterly ridiculious......

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Mr. Fryd]
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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: World Spirit]
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I am sorry you contrued my earlier post as an attack. It was not meant to be mean or malicious.

I was simply laying out the facts for the members of the OMC to see and asking for an explanation.

Yes Enter, you are absolutely right, vendors have the right to ask any price they want for their products.

However, it seems to me that most of them have made a business out of being 'friends' with the home hobbyist, when in fact they are running a highly propogandized campaign to save money at the expense of the people who make their products, and are marking up the prices to points that would make the asian buyers of clothing for large North American department stores blush.

My statements were made in response to a question regarding improved product ideas for the OMC, and Dimitri inquired about pricing.

I have given my answer in an adult way without flaming anyone, a rare commodity here these days. I have been unbiased in my comments except for one incident which I find most unsettling.

That incident is stated above. It is setting false market prices for overpriced goods on a whim, and by golly, id like an answer.

MM


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Mr. Fryd]
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hey look....peace.....and civil conversations....what a concept eh? :wink:


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: 40oz]
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Hmmm

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: World Spirit]
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Well at the end of the month we wil be uploading a new site in html format so that you can have an option of flash or html we will be adding all the following products to our site.
BUT in light of this post I am posting this list and asking everyone to look at it and if you see something that I missed or that you would like to see on a site let me know all the prices will now include shipping rather that the hastle of the e-mailing me for shipping.


Please look these items over and give feed back we will still try to maintain the lowest prices possible and will adjust prices to help offest some of the high shipping cost's

Thanks D

Lime
Flasks
Scalpels
(blades)
syringes
gypsom
compost
peat moss
vermiculite
oyster shell
Malt agar extract
Loops
Petri?s dishes Disposable
Re-usable petri?s
Alcohol lamps
Pre mixed casings
Rye grass seed
Rye berries
Fp bags 4 sizes
Impulse sealers
Bacterial agar
Malt
Wheat straw
Horse poo
Peptone
Pre-sterilized rye berries
Edible cultures
Medicinal cultures
Wooden dowls
Cheese wax
Autoclavable lids
Sterilization indicator strips
Hardwood saw dust and chips
Bran 4:1 hardwood sawdust
Pre-poured mea petri?s
W/ h2o2


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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Edited by Gays4Jews4Jesus (11/04/01 10:00 AM)

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: ]
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Please take your attempt at a flame else where this thread was started so vendors and the community could touch base.
And since you need to hide to make and opinion please take this up in a pm if you have a problem with me.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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Edited by Gays4Jews4Jesus (11/04/01 10:07 AM)

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: World Spirit]
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I think it's sad how vendor dependent some of the OMC seems to be. It really confuses me, why buy a pound of anything from a vendor when you can buy 50lb of it for twice as much at a feed or hardware store. Why buy prints/syringes when you can just trade with people, shit, if I wanted a pile of strains all I'd have to do is say the word.

I quit growing for several months, got the urge less than 2 weeks ago, I cloned a nice mushroom that was growing in an old neglected jar from several months ago, busted out the grain that costs $6 for 50lb at the feed store, now I've got 19 colonized jars, that I might have $1 in. Now I can mix the grain with straw that costs $3 for a bail half as big as me and some horse manure that was free.

Anno and 3M had my respect as non greedy vendors, Sporeworks and MushMush have my respect as providing excellent quality products and being very knowledgeable. Other than that, what does any vendor provide that's so special other than false karma.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: slither]
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Look at this for some You live alone so a big bail of straw, or 50 pounds of grain etc...
Is feasable for you and I to obtain and keep around the house or the garage.
Many of the people here live in dorms at home or have roommates who might get upset at bulk items sitting around (or in trouble w/ parents) blah blah blah.

Now I know most people are thinking, that if you live with with someone who might get mad then don't do it.
Well the intrigue of growing overwhelms some people and they would rather try and get away with it.



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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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In reply to:

Prints could be $10.00 with $5.00 going to the collector and $5.00 to cover my expences.



I salute you for your consideration of this concept.

I hope you make this happen.

Watch your back! The Spore Mafia will not take kindly to this offering.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: JackMehoff]
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the question on everyone's mind.... why does no one offer Tryptamine HCL in, say, 10g quantities?

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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Go for it. If the $3.00 a print (for cubes) price really is the going rate that vendors pay one could make plenty of profit. Thats a better return than most small business folk expect to make.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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Ill do you on better Nushroom.

Ill sell you all the P. cub. prints I have in my possession for $5, and the Pans for $6, if you buy em all.

They you can sell em for $10 & $12, respectively, and still make a 100% profit. Of course you would undercut the competition, but hey, they could afford to lower their prices a bit, wouldn't you think......;)

Just pm me. The ball is in your court bro.

These prints are heavy, big, and clean. The Pans are two per pack.

Im not bullshitting man, im sitting on prolly between 200-400 prints. I havent counted em lately.

And I dont care what the spore mafia thinks.

Ill donate half of all proceeds to the Forest Floor. I was going to send the prints to Eddy anyway, so he could auction em off in his fundraising auction.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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In reply to:

I could do the same sort of thing with spore collectors. Prints could be $10.00 with $5.00 going to the collector and $5.00 to cover my expences. Which is why I asked the question.



Are you trying to make this happen?

The fact that spore vendors buy prints for a few bucks each from bulk growers and put a HUGE markup on them and sell them to members of the omc smells of bullshit.

The price fixing needs to end.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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Is feasable for you and I to obtain and keep around the house or the garage.
Many of the people here live in dorms at home or have roommates who might get upset at bulk items sitting around>


I personally wouldnt mind seeing some QUALITY presterilized substrate jars, I know the Shroom wizard offers them, but he does not add a top layer of vermiculite and barely PCs them. Dimitri- you're site says you offer the presterilized rye in the bags, most people new to growing, like me, want to work with cakes. The bags just present even more of a problem, if I saw any site here that sold presterilized substrate in jars I would buy it, and I know others would too. My apartment at the moment only has a microwave in it, and I need something that would be sterilized and ready to be innoculated. Would any vendor consider adding this to their list of products?


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: roykinn]
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We offer the bags because they are less exspensive to buy and wiegh less if you want them in jars and are willing to pay the hefty price of shipping+price of the jars+and the cost of substrate then yes I would be more than happy to help out and I will add it to my site with a WARNING about the wieght & cost of shippingI try to help you save money but I will if you want.
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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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thanks, I understand about the cost and am willing to pay it. I've been studying all these teks for months now and just want to go by these cake teks step by step for my first setup. But yes, I've read a lot of posts on microwaving substrates and such, in each someone always asks about a reliable source for presterilized jars- thanks again


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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Whats so wrong about only getting $3 a print? Sometimes I send vendors 30-40 prints for free, its just spores, and I don't need them all. A few nice flushes and your sitting on 200-300 prints or more, thats $900 for 300 prints, sounds like a deal to me :) I've made up to $10 on prints sent to vendors, they aren't all rip-offs. Most of them try to grow therir self, but sometimes they get a few friends to help, nothing wrong with that. I'd like to see a vendor do all the growing himself, you know how hard it would be to jugle 10-15 cubie strains and keep them all in stock all of the time. Everyone needs a little help.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Lizard King]
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Vendors paying $3 for prints and selling them for $20 or more is just great. Hell, spending $900 and makeing $5000-$6000 profit selling them to loyal customers is fucking bargin in anyones book. A 600%-800% profit margin is to be expected.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: slither]
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"Anno and 3M had my respect as non greedy vendors, Sporeworks and MushMush have my respect as providing excellent quality products and being very knowledgeable. Other than that, what does any vendor provide that's so special other than false karma. "

I completely agree. OK i do not know much about MushMush but other things are the truth for sure.

Now I have to tell you a little story. In the pharmaceutical industry you can not find any drug wich is easy to make aka cheap. That is the main reason why medical properties of the mushrooms are not well known.

I think that b1 (vitamin) is not sold anywhere. Not because it is not helpfull or something, but because it is too CHEAP to make.

So, if you do not see the reason why is that so, the reason is next. If you want to sell some product, you need to invest in a marketing of that product. You have to spend a lot of money, and when oyur product becames popular- well known, in that moment here comes the other firm wich sells that product for a way cheaper price.
You can not compete with that guy, because you invested a lot in a commercial 8and you need that money back) so you loose market. The other guy can come up with cheaper price..ALLWAYS.

I can see here some connection with a spore vending bussines. Well, if you guys play pragmatical role and buy spores from vendors with the lowest prices, in that way you fuck up all those guys who PATIENTLY try to develop new STRAINS, species or simmilar.
In that way sooner or later those who developed better things gets tired, because he sees no PROFIT in it, and he stops to do the favour to the MUSHROOM community.

That is the reason why I was allways bitching about certain persons. But actually at that time I was wrong. Because I did not bash that person because of above reasons, but because of the persons personality.

Now, I see that the MAJOR thing here is that you guys HAVE TO support those who help COMMUNITY with development of new things..but the real things..not the BUCKET things.

Because if we wont appreciate it, that we do not deserve NEW species MORE POTENT ONES, better growers etc.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: Crobih]
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Ops ... when I talked about marketing of ceratian product..I forgot to mention that there is a investition in whole product development, risk etc.

See? Spores are dead cheap to produce, so we have to appreciate pore development.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: World Spirit]
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Enter.. a while ago when I was growing fungi it was way harder to do so. Even I believe it was not comparable to 10 years ago.

My point is that today it is easy enough to grow them. And for the christs sake, I think that we must not move toward idea that boy who has 300$ gets his shrooms with no effort at all. This is a psychedelic, it has to be saint thing (remember?).

We as a community have to move toward fair prices of basic products, better QUALITY of service and products. The law of commercial flow will do the rest.

But we MUST move toward the second thing, not the first one. That is what community can do only. Something as syndicate.


Enter- I hope you can read trough my bad grammar spell etc.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: World Spirit]
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I guess I'm just old fashioned, but I kinda like the idea that shroom growing isn't idiot proof, that way not too many idiots will be growing mushrooms.  I think it is important for it to stay that way for shrooms to keep the low key position that they have where the LEO is concerned.

I just think it's real important that not any old fool out there that can buy a kit can grow mushrooms, Enter, It sounds like you're asking for is you want the vendors to make kits that illiterate people that can't drive to the store need to grow shrooms.

Man, I remember when people actually came to this site to learn/teach cultivation, now all I hear is kit, kit, kit, kit, kit. :frown:

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Lizard King]
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For your information. We, at MushMush, grow all of the mushrooms that are used for printing ourselves. We don't buy prints from others.

Running a mailorder company takes more time and costs more money than most people think. I think that the prices that (us) vendors ask quite fair.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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I'd like to know who some of these growers are that supply the vendors with $3 prints. I have to rely on Jose, Manuel and some of the other elves to keep me in spores and they can be awfully slow sometimes!

I do plan on adding the alder chips to my line of products. I'll have to rent a chipper for the day and chip up a years supply. Like oyster shells and vermiculite that I have offered in the past, alder chips won't make any profit but I really want to see people succeed with their Ps. cyanescen spores.

I looked into supplying the pre-sterilized jars long ago but the postage costs made it unfeasable. But if they radiate the mail, at least you can guarantee steriliity!

Edited by CaptainMaxMushroom (11/07/01 05:45 PM)

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: World Spirit]
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i think anyone can pretty much get what they want from either the vendors here (spores) or other products on the internet or locally. i wouldnt recommend for anyone to buy any sort of kit, or even for vendors to offer them. thats just my personal paranoia, but think it is valid.

oh wait!

if someone can buy bulk parafilm id be down to buy a roll... cant use enough of it to make a bulk order from the lab supply places, and i love it much more than saran wrap. :) and make it cheaper than fp... well, you wont make a profit on it. so, nevermind...


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: Crobih]
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Interesting thread, lots of topics in one place:)

I have to agree with Crobih. Basically, it takes alot of effort, time and money to be any kind of vendor. And if the market of the industry isn't met, EVERYONE will loose.

If people constantly lowball prices, the vendors who have nice things will quit selling. Its simple economics, its the old "why should we sell it when we can't get rid of it" attitiude.

Supplies or spores, the principle holds to both. You have some spore vendors who can do some really great strain isolations and cloning. While others may not be as advanced. If spore vendor ABC is growing rare cyan strains on agar and domesticating them so that the home grower can easily grow them.... well there's going to be alot more time and MONEY put forth than the spore vendor selling syringes made from PF style cakes:)

And we all know that once you get growing, you'll find it to be well worth it:) It may cost you around $50-100 to start off but....BOY is it worth it:)

Enter: We (Myco Supply) gets emails for product requests. And we're designing a little something something that might replace perlite:) Small enough to fit into a terrainum, and hopefully as cheap as perlite:) (The price that manufactuers want for this "item" is what we're working on)

My suggestion for a new product.....

Someone should update the PF Tek.

I know that it would be one heck of a task but newbies are ALWAYS asking tons of questions regarding it. I don't mind questions one bit but all and all...the tek could be touched up a bit:)

Lana


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: World Spirit]
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You just don't seem to want to see the light. I would cut thru the bullshit here for you point by point but my eloquence and the straignt forwardness of what I'm saying would be missed so it seems.

Yes, we need good vendors who supply quality products, bring us new strains and do quality strain developement. There are very damn few who do the latter. If you believe otherwise you are mistaken.

Of course all the vendors will tell us the current fixed prices are "fair". And what's really sad is that so many folks are aparently buying this line. I believe there is room for improvement. And, buying bulk prints for a few dollars and marking them up 600%-800% is nothing short of bullshit.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: oscill8]
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This is not directed at any single person!!!!!!

Without a vendor agreement between eachother price cutting will occur. There are no legal means to patent spores of naturally occuring mushrooms. If it were legal to sell cultures, hence sell individual strains, a sales agreement could be used to prevent resale. No compete clauses!!! But vendors in the USA sell spores, because they can't legally sell strains of Psilocybin containing mushrooms. I believe at some level there is a QUIET AGREEMENT between vendors about this very thing. When a vendor oversteps the line, the others are quick to bring it to his/her attention!!!!
And as far as the wholesale price structuring goes, YOU as a supplier ( Grower) can have a quiet agreement with other wholesale suppliers, to set a price!!!! If a vendor needs a certain spore race, you have, you are in control!!!! You set the price!!!! Unless the vendor wants to lose customers, he/she has to pay your price. Unless of course the vendor can get them elsewhere for less.

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Well, this was a nice thread until you just brought it down to the level of the flamers. You just lost my respect. Nice to finally meet you.

Edited by boxtop703 (11/08/01 02:03 AM)

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O.K., I take it back. I still respect you. But I got my eye on you enter! Hehe

Edited by boxtop703 (11/08/01 02:24 AM)

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Personally I think everything we need,aside from spores, is already quite easy to obtain at the local walmart. Local stores, feedstores and nurseries are full of inexpensive goodies, and you do not have to pay for shipping.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: isis]
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Micron Magick, in reply to your response about my post, no I don't think offering spores is a bad idea at all, I say go for it and more power to ya! :) Thats not at all what I was implying. I was just saying that $3 a print is plently for the home cultivator. Of course like the person at the top of this page, some will be jealous at how much vendors are flipping their prints for, well thats the way it works, if you don't like it you you be the spore vendor and see what you can do. Most people are happy with the fruits they grow, I can't imagine bitching about $900 coming your way for taking the time to lay a few caps on paper.

This is a classic case of what you don't know can't hurt ya. People don't bitch until they see how much profit a vendor makes, which really ain't much. I don't think any vendors have quite their day job, maybe PF.

Anyways, I just wanted to say that I was not slamming anyone, just saying that I feel $3 a print for cubies is nothing to bitch about.

LK,


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LK
you are absolutely right!!
And Mr. Fryd, if you want 4-5 dollars a print, they will pay it if they really need the prints!!! You are in control!

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I know what i would like to see is a relitively inexpensive automated terarium that can hold a good amount of cakes and caseing, like 24 cakes would be a good amount.
Acully ive been tring to design one but I could really use a device that could turn off and on a a settable humidity (a Hygrometer).
all one would have to do for maintinance would be to set temp. and humidity and add water. maybe change an air filter every so often.
that would be really cool. Iwould pay a a coulpe hundered for somthing like that depending on how well it was made.

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Heck, a "hygrometer" with those type of capabilities would cost you a couple hundred.

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