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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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Edited by Gays4Jews4Jesus (11/04/01 10:00 AM)

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: ]
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Please take your attempt at a flame else where this thread was started so vendors and the community could touch base.
And since you need to hide to make and opinion please take this up in a pm if you have a problem with me.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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Edited by Gays4Jews4Jesus (11/04/01 10:07 AM)

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: World Spirit]
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I think it's sad how vendor dependent some of the OMC seems to be. It really confuses me, why buy a pound of anything from a vendor when you can buy 50lb of it for twice as much at a feed or hardware store. Why buy prints/syringes when you can just trade with people, shit, if I wanted a pile of strains all I'd have to do is say the word.

I quit growing for several months, got the urge less than 2 weeks ago, I cloned a nice mushroom that was growing in an old neglected jar from several months ago, busted out the grain that costs $6 for 50lb at the feed store, now I've got 19 colonized jars, that I might have $1 in. Now I can mix the grain with straw that costs $3 for a bail half as big as me and some horse manure that was free.

Anno and 3M had my respect as non greedy vendors, Sporeworks and MushMush have my respect as providing excellent quality products and being very knowledgeable. Other than that, what does any vendor provide that's so special other than false karma.

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: slither]
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Look at this for some You live alone so a big bail of straw, or 50 pounds of grain etc...
Is feasable for you and I to obtain and keep around the house or the garage.
Many of the people here live in dorms at home or have roommates who might get upset at bulk items sitting around (or in trouble w/ parents) blah blah blah.

Now I know most people are thinking, that if you live with with someone who might get mad then don't do it.
Well the intrigue of growing overwhelms some people and they would rather try and get away with it.



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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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Prints could be $10.00 with $5.00 going to the collector and $5.00 to cover my expences.



I salute you for your consideration of this concept.

I hope you make this happen.

Watch your back! The Spore Mafia will not take kindly to this offering.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: JackMehoff]
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the question on everyone's mind.... why does no one offer Tryptamine HCL in, say, 10g quantities?

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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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Go for it. If the $3.00 a print (for cubes) price really is the going rate that vendors pay one could make plenty of profit. Thats a better return than most small business folk expect to make.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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Ill do you on better Nushroom.

Ill sell you all the P. cub. prints I have in my possession for $5, and the Pans for $6, if you buy em all.

They you can sell em for $10 & $12, respectively, and still make a 100% profit. Of course you would undercut the competition, but hey, they could afford to lower their prices a bit, wouldn't you think......;)

Just pm me. The ball is in your court bro.

These prints are heavy, big, and clean. The Pans are two per pack.

Im not bullshitting man, im sitting on prolly between 200-400 prints. I havent counted em lately.

And I dont care what the spore mafia thinks.

Ill donate half of all proceeds to the Forest Floor. I was going to send the prints to Eddy anyway, so he could auction em off in his fundraising auction.

MM


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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I could do the same sort of thing with spore collectors. Prints could be $10.00 with $5.00 going to the collector and $5.00 to cover my expences. Which is why I asked the question.



Are you trying to make this happen?

The fact that spore vendors buy prints for a few bucks each from bulk growers and put a HUGE markup on them and sell them to members of the omc smells of bullshit.

The price fixing needs to end.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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Is feasable for you and I to obtain and keep around the house or the garage.
Many of the people here live in dorms at home or have roommates who might get upset at bulk items sitting around>


I personally wouldnt mind seeing some QUALITY presterilized substrate jars, I know the Shroom wizard offers them, but he does not add a top layer of vermiculite and barely PCs them. Dimitri- you're site says you offer the presterilized rye in the bags, most people new to growing, like me, want to work with cakes. The bags just present even more of a problem, if I saw any site here that sold presterilized substrate in jars I would buy it, and I know others would too. My apartment at the moment only has a microwave in it, and I need something that would be sterilized and ready to be innoculated. Would any vendor consider adding this to their list of products?


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: roykinn]
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We offer the bags because they are less exspensive to buy and wiegh less if you want them in jars and are willing to pay the hefty price of shipping+price of the jars+and the cost of substrate then yes I would be more than happy to help out and I will add it to my site with a WARNING about the wieght & cost of shippingI try to help you save money but I will if you want.
Thanx D


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: dimitri211]
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thanks, I understand about the cost and am willing to pay it. I've been studying all these teks for months now and just want to go by these cake teks step by step for my first setup. But yes, I've read a lot of posts on microwaving substrates and such, in each someone always asks about a reliable source for presterilized jars- thanks again


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: MicronMagick]
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Whats so wrong about only getting $3 a print? Sometimes I send vendors 30-40 prints for free, its just spores, and I don't need them all. A few nice flushes and your sitting on 200-300 prints or more, thats $900 for 300 prints, sounds like a deal to me :) I've made up to $10 on prints sent to vendors, they aren't all rip-offs. Most of them try to grow therir self, but sometimes they get a few friends to help, nothing wrong with that. I'd like to see a vendor do all the growing himself, you know how hard it would be to jugle 10-15 cubie strains and keep them all in stock all of the time. Everyone needs a little help.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve community [Re: Lizard King]
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Vendors paying $3 for prints and selling them for $20 or more is just great. Hell, spending $900 and makeing $5000-$6000 profit selling them to loyal customers is fucking bargin in anyones book. A 600%-800% profit margin is to be expected.

Nope, nothing wrong with that. It's just spores.


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Re: Products vendors can provide to improve communit [Re: slither]
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"Anno and 3M had my respect as non greedy vendors, Sporeworks and MushMush have my respect as providing excellent quality products and being very knowledgeable. Other than that, what does any vendor provide that's so special other than false karma. "

I completely agree. OK i do not know much about MushMush but other things are the truth for sure.

Now I have to tell you a little story. In the pharmaceutical industry you can not find any drug wich is easy to make aka cheap. That is the main reason why medical properties of the mushrooms are not well known.

I think that b1 (vitamin) is not sold anywhere. Not because it is not helpfull or something, but because it is too CHEAP to make.

So, if you do not see the reason why is that so, the reason is next. If you want to sell some product, you need to invest in a marketing of that product. You have to spend a lot of money, and when oyur product becames popular- well known, in that moment here comes the other firm wich sells that product for a way cheaper price.
You can not compete with that guy, because you invested a lot in a commercial 8and you need that money back) so you loose market. The other guy can come up with cheaper price..ALLWAYS.

I can see here some connection with a spore vending bussines. Well, if you guys play pragmatical role and buy spores from vendors with the lowest prices, in that way you fuck up all those guys who PATIENTLY try to develop new STRAINS, species or simmilar.
In that way sooner or later those who developed better things gets tired, because he sees no PROFIT in it, and he stops to do the favour to the MUSHROOM community.

That is the reason why I was allways bitching about certain persons. But actually at that time I was wrong. Because I did not bash that person because of above reasons, but because of the persons personality.

Now, I see that the MAJOR thing here is that you guys HAVE TO support those who help COMMUNITY with development of new things..but the real things..not the BUCKET things.

Because if we wont appreciate it, that we do not deserve NEW species MORE POTENT ONES, better growers etc.

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