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Boycott the Vendors!
    #625365 - 05/03/02 12:34 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck them all, lookin to make a quick buck on the sacred fungus.

Shrooms taught me that life is too short to worry about petty shit and greed. They showed me that all that matters is the moment and that peace and sharing are virtues to be held dear. All of the Shroomerites I have met share that same feeling, but then I guess I never met a spore vendor.

The whole lot of you seem like a bunch of smelly assholes. Maybe, it's time the Shroomery sent you all out to the real world. Get real jobs instead of putting your 8 hours a day into pummelling each other in the hopes for an insignificant increase in sales.

You are vampires that try to suck the blood out of this community.

If you are as fed up with it as I am, do something about it. BOYCOTT THE VENDORS.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625379 - 05/03/02 12:55 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Doob,

calm down my brother.

I'm locking this thread!


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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625382 - 05/03/02 12:57 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Here are some possible signatures to get the movement started.

Selling spores sucks out your soul.
Sharing them is good for your soul.

Jesus told me that vendors is the devil.

Want spores?  PM me! :smile:

End the bullshit.
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Doob,

please... you don't feed fuel to the fire!
your not helping the situation.....and I'm not going to edit your thread.
The Admins can decide that.

thanks, Road


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The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

Edited by Roadkill (05/03/02 01:12 AM)

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625422 - 05/03/02 01:42 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I think this thread deserves to be open, although I think doobie is being a bit harsh here... I mean not all vendors get involved in daily bickering and bad behavior.... To ask everyone to boycott all vendors is silly.

I think that bad behavior on any vendors part does hurt their businesses, so if you see behavior you don't like, don't buy from them..

God knows I would never buy from a store that I saw people who worked in this store acting like idiots..

I'm really frustrated personally with the whole childish behavior going on, and the worst thing is all these vendors and users who get involved are contacting me and the mods to step in.... But when anything is done somebody always cries foul, yet they asked for something to be done...

This forum will get a last oppertunity for peace before its outright deleted and we make these boards completely free from Vendor threads and only allow banners as the only form of advertising here...


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Thor]
    #625427 - 05/03/02 01:49 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Well,

you heard it from my boss....have at it.


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Roadkill]
    #625433 - 05/03/02 01:59 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

i have read vendors saying "dont interact with anyone under the age of 18"

how about no one interacts with vendors that act like spoiled little gossiping backstabbing bitches with juvinile mentalities? should clean the place up real nice.....again to such vendors and their ass lickers.....KMA...thank you drive thru

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625435 - 05/03/02 02:03 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I can understand why Road Kill was quick to want to close this thread. After all, terms like "The whole lot of you seem like a bunch of smelly assholes" can really be interputed as "flames".

I must admit that I as a mod here was totaly torn in half as to what to do. This thread has been a tough call... my first thought was that it should remain open..... my second thought was that it was going to start another mega flame war.

I'm glad that Thor voiced his opinion on this one.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625438 - 05/03/02 02:08 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Other than spores, I don't see any need for buying from a vendor.

Once you learn how to make sporeprints and syringes, they're not much good for anything.

I've never seen MushMush say a single harsh word against anyone, and there's no way THE MAN is going to be able to catch an envelope full of spores coming from overseas. Just the sheer mass of the volume of letters coming from over there pretty much guarantees security.

Just get your first batch of syringes from whatever lesser evil you choose, learn sporeprinting and syringe making, and then when you're ready to try some new strains/species order them from MushMush.

I can't say I would participate in sporetrading since I won't give my address to anyone here that I don't personally know. I think that's just asking for trouble.



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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625439 - 05/03/02 02:11 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

well i usually stay away from anything that doesnt directly relate to cult. but my thoughts on this ongoing matter is that there are many people on both sides. each will make up their mind (after their "newbie" order from any given vendor) when they get going. if you dont like it, there are many who are willing to trade and give to others to avoid the whole mess, and there are those who would like to place their order with a vendor for any amount of reasons. check everything out an make up your own mind, we all know people are unhappy with many things around here, but do what YOU want and come away with a smile.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Thor]
    #625465 - 05/03/02 03:14 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Thor]
    #625674 - 05/03/02 12:00 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Is it not supose to be a moderators job to maintain order on the board? Not start shit? This isn't the first time Senor_Doobie has done this.

Senor_Doobie - If there are vendors acting improperly on this board, by all means jump in and give them hell in that thread or lock it! But starting threads like this puts you in a worse light than the vendors your bashing.

Thor - Why not just create an "Anything Goes Flame Section" to let the children play in, then a thread or post could just be dumped there if need be.

Just a thought!


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #625773 - 05/03/02 02:00 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I don't see how spore vendors are bad.Yes they sell spores and make a living from that.
Some people consider them sacred but not all.Is willy jack,sensi seed,nirvina evil because
they sell mj seeds?Some people find this substance sacred.Just because someone want's
to make money from what ever they sell does not make them evil.We live in a capitalistic society.Most people want to be rich.

Once a person understands the reproductive cycle
of a plant or mushroom YOU NEVER HAVE TO BUY FROM THE SOURCE AGAIN so in a sence
alot of people boycott a vendor.Buy one spore print and never have to buy it again.Buy some
seeds and never have to buy them again.I don't like how some market there spores but this is
what they do...................................

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: XOCHI]
    #625780 - 05/03/02 02:08 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I don't have any problem with people selling spores, otherwise, I would never have been able to get into this hobby. I just have something personal against the vendors who are ALWAYS in a flame war. Why not keep it in private, you know? Trying to deface eachother on the boards really destroys any respect I had for [some of] them. None of the bickering vendors ever get anywere either. It's always "Vendor A threatened me or said this or did this or does this" and then "Vendor B is lying! I challenge them to prove me wrong", which of course is impossible. I'd just figure out for yourselves which vendors you want to support and then buy from them.

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Cub]
    #625817 - 05/03/02 03:05 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

10-4 cub

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #625851 - 05/03/02 03:49 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

This place is like a home to me and I am just trying to protect it. Like a good friend of mine told me yesterday, everything shitty about this community can usually be traced here. This is especially true recently.

I am interested in keeping peace. The only problem is we need to get there first. I don't think I have to explain the volitility of this forum to anyone that reads it, so I won't bother.

I don't need you to explain my job to me. I know what I'm doing and I'm not neutral in this.

You people are right. An all-out boycott is not the answer, but I would like to see this problem go away, not because I care about this shit hole forum, but because it is the goal of the Administration.

If not a boycott on all vendors, maybe we could come up with a list of vendors that are the cause for the shit slinging that so many of us are fed up with.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625862 - 05/03/02 04:03 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Peace or no more forum. Good call.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: cujo7999]
    #625894 - 05/03/02 04:44 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

peace or no forum is actually a bad idea. if we remove the vendor forum, then they're all gonna move into the other forums and dump their trash there. the reason the vendors forum was orginally created was to put all the vendor crap into one forum, and keep it out of other ones.
i never read this forum anyway, but don't delete it.
just my 2 cents.

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625937 - 05/03/02 06:03 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I'm glad this forum exists. I remember when I was growing how loaded with bullshit spam the mush cult forum was. The once in a blue moon I read the spam and crap on this forum keeps me from giving any of thm any word of mouth business. The couple of folks I've turned onto shrooms bought from that PF guy cause he's the only one you never see fucking around on here.

Fuck all the greedy bastards. They remind me of the kids in HS who would buy acid for $5/hit and turn around and sell it to others for $10 or even $15. There are so many things wrong with that. And, there are so many things wrong with what most of these "dealers" do. Fuck the bullshit, boycott them all and give the business to someone else who doesn't indulge in these unethical practices and childish bullshit........not to mention the few vendors who are here who have posted customer names and addresses and the one guy who threatened to turn a customer into th cops when he complained about his order. That alone should scare th shit out of new growers.

I'm sure I'll be attacked for bringing up the past, but shit like that is important for newbies to read.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: too_many_weirdos]
    #625943 - 05/03/02 06:15 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

i agree with the fact the fact if it weren't for spore vendors a lot of newer cultivators would have a lot harder time trying to get started growing. in the beginning, it helps to get a handle on all other aspects of cultivation before making prints, and syringes so you are not frustrated by newbie mistakes, especially when those mistakes are made during the syringe making process which can send a whole batch down the drain.
some vendors are not entirely about profit but really care about providing good quality mushroom spores for cultivators to grow.
at this point, i personally would never BUY spores again, they are to accessible now. but as far as trading for prints rather than buyinging them, even in the old days when trading and bartering were common plae you had to have something to trade or offer. as a newbie with no experience, & very little knowledge you can't even offer the return of a print once a flush has completed, a (sterile one anyway)and yes a lot of times people give without expecting nything in return, but it is unreasonable to expect that evry person will hook up with somebody like that.
just my 2 cents.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #625987 - 05/03/02 07:07 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

trust me there is nothing wrong with raising hell ... but i prefer a solution... like those who buy from vendors are usually newbies , with no creditability... i don't want to have to worry about finger prints while making a print to send out ... i have been growing for a while, and i have never seen anything negative coming from ralphster ... perhaps a good vendor list or something... but dont boycott all vendors ... sacred .. thats questionable .... in what context ...is beer just horse piss ...

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: gorgebush]
    #626166 - 05/10/02 07:50 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

personally, i dont think boycotting would do any good. now maybe if thor implemented a 0% tolerance to flames ( as i think from what ive been seeing, he has done GO THOR N MODS) give em a warning, second chance, suspend posting privilages, 3rd, or maybe 4th offense, ban from the site. it may hurt the the check book here, but for every vender we lose, im sure at least 1 would take his/her place... i know it sounds harsh, specially since a lot of venders have been here a long time , but if they continue to flame and act juvinile, after knowing the consequences, then THEY are making the decision, not thor, not the mods, not the noobs, they will have done it to themselves. sure they can change their name, get a new website, but it takes awhile to build trust. and sales would not be like it was for them, for quite awhile. if they want to risk it, fine, it's their wallet getting thin.
and about them making money on spores???? c'mon, we ALL party, maybe have different drugs of choice, but ..... ya ever walk into a bar, and bitch cuz a beer cost a buck, and you can buy a case for 15? or have a "freind" hook up with a pound of killer ganj, and bitch cuz he aint selling you a OZ for cost???
this sacred shit is bullshit, shrooms are drugs, just like smoke, and X,and booze,and,and,and...... you dont wanna buy it, find you a cow pasture, and have at it bud, hmmmm now your gonna need a chemical supply house that is gonna sell you petri's and agar AT COST...


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: World Spirit]
    #726714 - 07/06/02 02:58 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I will put my .02 in here. I also see both sides! I do not feel the vendors need to be banned form the site, I mean...at one point or another each of us depended on a vendor to get our 'spore collection' started. Above all, I have ALWAYS been ashamed of the twisted little soap opera that we call the 'spore vendors'. It is about the most disgusting thing related to shrooms. I agree with Se?ior in the fact that this behavior is NOT shroomy! There IS one vendor I have never found in the mosh pit. This was apparent to me long ago. For that reason you can refer to the URL below....AND i have to conceed that MushMush also seems to follow the same pattern of good behavior. Most of the time I avoid this forum all together because I do not want to read the lastest episode of "Days of Our Lives". Not ALL the Vendors are bad ALL the time. I think the time is waaay past due for them to shape up or ship the the f**k on out....And because I did not mention you (vendors out there) does not mean I am saying you are the root of the prob. i have only chosen to mention establishments for which I have specific praise in this tangled web of Jackassery.....

TR


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #726909 - 07/06/02 04:35 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I'm a newbie here, so I realize what I say matters very little but I am going to interject my opinion anyway. We have a forum for vendors right? A lot more people should be using it for feedback for the Vendors. You have a good experience with a vendor, post it. You have a crappy one, post it. If you've got a vendor that is causing some bad shit in the community either be it by bad overall business or posting names & addresses, let it be known. Intelligent people will stop doing business with them all together. I would imagine that this is is already implemented, and I realize that this site needs the money from advertisers to stay up, but what about allowing only the good businesses to advertise here? Could some sort of rating system be put up that is similar to eBay's with feedback ratings and comments or something? I think there is a lot which could be done about the bad vendors, and some good which could be done for the good folks out there. Run properly it could be a win-win situation for everybody. But as it has been said, boycotting is not the answer. Reputable vendors are just like any other business and should be treated as so. Unless we feel like going back to bartering or trading clams, let the good business prosper, and the poor ones fail. Capitalism at it's best, but it relys on the participation of the community.


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #727251 - 07/06/02 07:07 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Hey there,

1. Good common sense will tell you that the health and livelyhood of this domain and it's associate discussion forum is directly attributable to funds received from the vendor community.
2. The vendors in this online community are actually much friendlier, customer service oriented and add a nice human touch compare to some of the other "alternative" forums...trust me they are much better than the average Internet vendor. They are also not intrusive to my knowledge but definitely are human so don't expect the IBM totally pro salesforce machine mentality in this arena (not that IBM is bad...I like IBM personally). Nobody likes to tread on...
3. Personally until I would prefer to deal with the vendors as a newbie just for the sake of clarity and peace of mind...I think that issue is sorta moot. I am leary of intruding on anyone's space much looking for "things" so the vendors are the obvious and irreplaceable choice.
4. The competition between the vendors is generally shown in quality of service. I think I have tried almost everyone here and they all have easily outperformed most of the mainstream vendors I have dealt with on the Internet in terms of quality of product, speed and correctness of order processing and just overall goodness. Generally in this community if it is coming from somewhere in the lower 48 and it takes more than three days to get to you, they probably aren't in business here anymore.
5. Overall I say the vendors rock and am glad to have made their acquaintance and done some deals with them. Thanks vendors!!!

Best regards,

KingBolete

PS Thanks to Road for being a good moderator and shroom "do it to it" data source also...thanks Road...I don't know you but you are all growed up...

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #727787 - 07/06/02 10:47 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

In reply to:

Fuck them all, lookin to make a quick buck on the sacred fungus



I still have to meet a vendor that is stinking rich, if I meet him I will ask how he feels about making so much money on a sacred product.
In fact we all need to provide money for the hungry mouth to feed. I rather see a vendor then a soldier, a president or something else completely worthless.
I thought that shrooms could bring peace. Isn't that the most importent thing of all.

I won a contest on the shroomery, a free print choise! It was stamped with a 5$ stamp and a nice box. Who is making money?

In reply to:

The whole lot of you seem like a bunch of smelly assholes.



Well you talked about Jezus too, where is your christianity, where did the love go?

Than you told about evil in a later post. Evil connected with something Jezus told you. Well my friend Evil existy only because love does. It realy the same thing in fact. All is needed to have a complete and meaning full life.

I do admit that vendors sometimes make a mesh of things and even personally sent out hell wishes by pm. But are they not humans 2? It are vendors no gods.

To make an end to the stupid vendor bullshit I have the intention to through in a free print to change the ''bad" post into somehing loving full. But then even non vendors kill the peace. It is bad to see that this can be a mod 2.

Well i like the vendor forum so much, I love to see them act as fools, pure amusement. And i can understand the way you want to protect the Shroomery.

Good luck with your action


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #728370 - 07/07/02 04:45 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

senor dobbie did you start growing shrooms with or without using a vendor?

think about it...how do most people get into shroom growing

very few people would get into shroom growing if vendors were not around


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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: bigslick]
    #756438 - 07/18/02 01:07 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

This all shit makes growing too easy. In my time, I had to do it much harder, than it is now. So, we need new laws that will forbide spores to protect saintness of growing hoby.

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Re: Boycott the Vendors! [Re: Crobih]
    #776361 - 07/25/02 02:52 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Crobih is 100% right!!!! Once we got an internet, then "Sroomery", bunch of idiots(they think they are bussinesmen) think that they can make a quick buck?!?!?! No fucking way!!! The only thing you can do is to attract the attantion of all kinds of law inforcement(what happened to SALVIA). You will see, that one day spores will be illigal in this country...just don't forget to thank our great vendors.


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