I think I am going to make this my last post regarding this subject until Thor makes his decision. I have a lot of work to do in order to get prepared (or not).
Draig, you state: "so what's the deal bitching about vendors here marking up syringes 800% when, by those same calculations, you have been marking up GT syringes 30,000%?"
For one, of course, it is not 30,000% mark-up (I am sure you know that). Although, if someone out there would like to purchase a spore syringe for $50K HELL YES! I would drive to the other side of the country and deliver it in person!
But, I could not have said it better myself! What gives me the right to bitch about the Vendors high prices? Does it not work both ways? So, only the Vendors of the Shroomery have that right and I don't? I complain that the prices for the members of the Shroomery are VERY HIGH and you are complaining that the prices at STP are VERY HIGH for the general public! Hmmm... sounds like a two-faced question. Don't you think?
Fatloco - You are very correct. If the members of the Shroomery do not want to purchase my spores...then, so be it. But not allowing the members to make up their own minds, well...that is a dictatorship and/or censorship. The option to do so is up to each member...NOT THE VENDORS! My hat is off to your level head way of thinking.
Leafblowerz: I hope YOU will have that right to make your own decision here at the Shroomery.
CaptainMaxMushroom: You state, "800 percent markup...you're a liar....you think these syringes make themselves?"
I have been in the business for a long time. I do not HAVE TO GROW OR DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL TO OBTAIN MY SPORES. I do not grow! Therefore, MY cost is as I stated...my cost is about $1.50. I could care less what your cost is. I am able to sell my syringes to the members of the Shroomery for $3.00 each. Do not call me a liar unless you have all of the facts.
Is this not what you wanted from my company Max? Did you not want me to lower my prices?
The price of spores are subjective. The Vendors and members of the Shroomery seems to think that only THEY can place a price on spores and what is their TRUE value!?!?! You bitch because my prices are too high, now you bitch because they are too low?
You also state: "You come here LYING to the shroomerites about what it costs to make a syringe as if the actual cost for an empty syringe is the only expense....if this is what we can expect from you, you won't be welcome!"
I did not lie! The expense to ME is the price of an empty syringe...and a few more cents for this-and-that. I am forthcoming to the members here. I will not give away any of my processing secretes, but...anything else I am open.
905... I am not trying to Monopolize anything! The members ask to pay a reasonable price for spores...that is EXACTLY what I will do!
At the same time I will sponsor the Shroomery. I saw thread after thread about how I should lower my prices and I should not come to the Shroomery and "peddle" my words if I am not a Sponsor. Well, I am willing to do both. Now...I am the bad guy?
As far as jackjordan1966...he is a good customer of mine. I can FUCKING SPEAK FOR MYSELF! I don't need an alias in order to get on the Shroomery! Give me a fucking break! Do not assume anything! If someone says something good about STP...what...it must be the Keeper?!?! I have customers purchase from me that are VERY AWARE of the Shroomery. The Shroomery does not effect my business at STP in the slightest! The only reason I came back to see what was going on was because my hits to STP spiked from the Shroomery so, I had to see what was going on.
Blitz...you state: "Ok, Shane, well it's very obvious you are just trying to hurt the other vendors business. I don't think that s a great business practice.. but it is fair" Thank you.
Although, I am not trying to hurt anyone. I am sick and tired of the members and Vendors bitching about how expensive my spores are. And that spores should not have such a high price posted to them. Well, who sits the prices? Who states the price of spores and their TRUE value. The Vendors at the Shroomery? BULLSHIT!
The public dictates the prices of EVERYTHING we sale! If we can not meet the demands of the purchaser then we are doomed to fail with our business venture. It is as simple as that.
And Blitz...It is going to be different. It will not have STP on it. It will have a different domain name altogether. And only members of the shroomery may purchase from this site. This site is not for the public...it is for the Shroomery only.
Vatoloco...you state: "he is simply trying to buy our silence on the matter of his business practices
and in the process, steal from the established vendors on the boards"
Buy the silence of the Shroomery? Do you really think I am that powerful...lol.
If anything this has generated a lot of bullshit that I can live without. This will not shut up anyone. The Vendor will still bitch about STP and still let members know who I am. Nothing is going to change. The only difference is that the members can now purchase spores at a lower price. Many, I mean MANY, members will never buy spores from the new site...due to their principles. I AM VERY COOL WITH THAT. But, the option should be their nonetheless.
If nobody buys from the site and the Shroomery gets sponsorship from it...good for them and bad for me.
I am willing to do EXACTLY what the Vendors and members have been bitching at me about for years. Well, here it is.
If you don't like it then you should be a little more careful what you wish for.
You also state: "the only reason he can sell spores for 2-3$ at the back door is because he
charges 50-75-100$ at the front door"
No...you are very wrong! I can sell them for $2-$3 because I have NO GROWING EXPENSE! I do not grow...I trade. Therefore I can sell them for that price and still double my investment.
"regardless of the lure of prices, supporting this man shows a spineless disregard for the entire OMC"
You think $3 spores supports me?
Give me a break!
$3 spores will support the members of the Shroomery...NOT ME! lol!!!
The sponsorship will only support the Shroomery...not me.
Namrepus...you ask: Why do you charge $90 for spores anyways?
Answer - Because this is America...because I can.
Why do you sell existing spores and rename them as something else?
Answer - I do not! If you want to think the Z-Strain is a Golden Teacher...then, go buy a Golden Teacher.
I know where my spores come from (originally). I know what they are. If you know something that I don't, which I find very unlikely due to the fact you are not me, then go and purchase your spores from someone else.
If you want to purchase the Golden Teachers for $2-$3...then you should also have that choice. Am I wrong to think that?
P.S. I sure do see a lot of spore prices going down. So, is this not good for the Members?
It is called competition.
I am sure that even with the lowering of spore prices that Vendors are still NOT losing money.
It looks to me that maybe, just maybe, the Vendors did not have to charge the high prices that members are used to paying.
The teonanacatl or p. mexicana being called the "A" strain.
Price of spores that should cost $3 you are charging $12.
It looks like the kettle is black after all!
Like it or not Vendors, YOU ARE ME! You are just doing it on a smaller scale.
I await your decision Thor.
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