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 shane67
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 Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here?  [Re: MechanicalMan]
#808861 - 08/10/02 11:05 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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I apologize. He is just pointing people to it.
Nevertheless it is being done. Is this right? Is this a monitor that is doing this? Is this the way monitors conduct themselves?
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blitz
RIP "Ripper" akaBrandon
Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 149
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#808871 - 08/10/02 11:15 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Like everyone has said, the vote really means nothing, its just to show us, what the rest of us think.... and to tell you the truth, the poll could do nothing but help you, since as you obviously know, the people around here dont like you (for completely obvious reasons), and well, the only thing that would surprise people would be to see people voting yes, allow him to be a sponsor. (voting no, would just be completely expected)
Also, as it's been stated, this thread really has nothing to do with Thor's decision.... well, hopefully he sees how much we fucking hate you for your previous, and current practices/actions (more importantly, the people that did get fucked over, and are now member of the shrooomery, are probably VERY against you)
As for the shroomery's 'mission statement,' which I am not sure exists (i'm guessing not) would probably include "Helping newbies not get fucked over or over charged by vendors and traders."
I mean, does that not sound like a reasonable statement of atleast one of the things this site is for?
and Shane, do you NOT fit under this category of vendors who overcharge 'newbies' ?
I'm just hoping Thor see's this (his) site the 'same way'
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 cdlove69
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#808907 - 08/10/02 11:39 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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ummm shane.... if I was you I would stop complaining and whining and bitching... that's just gonna get you no where.
No what you should do is get your nose a little brown and try to persuade people you fucking idiot!!!
although I will never support you, just giving you a tip...
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Hi Mr. Po-Po... I'm drunk!!!
The Little Guy! <-- Best Syringes I've recieved!
The Hawks Eye <-- Best prints I've recieved!
The Sporeworks <-- Awesome service
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LaCasta
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#808925 - 08/10/02 12:02 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shane 67,
You must feel pretty guilty coming out here and repenting because you knew $90 is way to much to pay for a syringe and call it something which it is not. Your Z-strain was pretty cool, guess what it turned out to be golden teacher. You still owe me $80 the way I see it, because a syringe should never be over $10.
Give me your adress Id like to send you some LaCasta's brew, its the type you drink, and it mainly consists of mine and vato's piss.
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"Memories of high speeds when the cops crash, As I laugh pushin the gas while my glocks blast" -RIP Tupac
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Crobih
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 Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#808928 - 08/10/02 12:06 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Considering your not so great past, why dont you start from begining? Creating new logo etc? STP has allways been on bad reputation. I do not know why, maybe you know.
Others, what the hell you know about anything to vote and post on this topic? Unless you are all vendors/admins.
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LaCasta
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#808937 - 08/10/02 12:17 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shane 67,
You must feel pretty guilty coming out here and repenting. Maybe because you knew $90 was way too fucking much to charge for a syringe. The Z-Strain turned out to be pretty cool, actually it turned out to be Golden Teachers. The way I see it you still owe me $80, becasue a syringe should never be more than $10. Im too high to get into other things like keeper's brew.
I wish I would have found the shroomery before STP, Inc. God I hate you Shane.
P.S.
I would like to send you some LaCasta's brew, its the type that helps your shrooms grow by drinking it, and it consists of mainly mine and vatoloco's piss.
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"Memories of high speeds when the cops crash, As I laugh pushin the gas while my glocks blast" -RIP Tupac
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vatoloco
Puppet Hunter -DBK
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Post deleted by MOE THE MAD SCIENTIST [Re: ]
#809116 - 08/10/02 01:58 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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utopianglory
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: MechanicalMan]
#809191 - 08/10/02 02:39 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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He should be allowed to trade here. Ok he's not to be trusted. I wouldn't order from him, nor would many who have posted on this thread. There are plenty of guinea pigs on this site for us to see how he acts.
People who do wrong should be given a chance to redeem themselves. I just hope this fellow isn't up to something.
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shroomerylurker
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Registered: 06/23/02
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#809313 - 08/10/02 03:48 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sure, we should let you peddle your wares here. So you can undercut all the other venders here, which you can do because cheat people that are new to the community. Sorry, I like them a whole lot better then I like you. Your a jerk, plain and simple. If you want to give to the community, make your sight an apology to all the people you have screwed over, start a new FSR backed by your own money.
Honestly I would not buy from someone like you, if you charge newbie's $90 for a syringe, what makes me feel confident that you wouldn't keep lists of addresses, and sell them to the highest bidder?
lurker
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metalfinn
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 Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#809749 - 08/10/02 07:12 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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In reply to:
To be quite honest...I think I just might sell the spores for $2 each. After all, that is the TRUE price of the spores (after the cost of processing). Would that make you feel better?
You Capitalist Pig!!!!!!!
How dare you try and cut the market for your own gain just to get on this site. The people here have expanded minds and are more interested in being Citizens of the Human Race. What I mean to say is that a mind expanding experience should be embraced and shared by all brothers and sisters.
Your profit gaining efforts are futile and humorous, how dare you insult the intelligence of the members here.
Thank you very much. 
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metalfinn
Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
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shane67
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Registered: 11/30/00
Posts: 113
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shroomerylurker]
#809771 - 08/10/02 07:25 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let me make myself clear. I AM NOT SORRY FOR MY SITE AT STP! I would never take that down.
If you do not like the site...don't go there. Warn people not to shop there. I could really care less with what any of you think about that site.
But, as for the new site for the Shroomery...that, of course, is going to be different. It will not have STP on it.
It will have a different domain name altogether.
And only members of the shroomery may purchase from this site. This site is not for the public...it is for the Shroomery.
The site is NOT to atone for my other site. It is to give the Shroomery what it has been asking from me for the last 3 years....AFFORDABLE SPORES.
Will, now you will be able to get them for $3 or FREE with a trade-in. If you don't like it...tough shit! DON'T SHOP THERE!
If I want to sell my spores at a good price...who are you guys to sensor me? I think the...'I don't like the way he treats others'...is getting tiring.
You can buy my spores or you do not buy my spores. You are making your own choice.
Do not allow a few people to monopolize the spores at the shroomery. Competition is good! We base our entire economy on it!
I am already seeing prices drop! This is good for the members at the shroomery! REMEMBER THEM VENDORS?
I want the members here to be able to purchase spores for their TRUE WORTH.
My GOD shroomery! You bitch about my prices being too high so I agree to sell them for what they are REALLY worth, and you are still complaining! Now you are saying they are too cheap! That I am trying to undercut you? What the hell do you want!
Your prices are about a 800% markup on the true cost of producing spores.
Well, some of my spores at STP are 800% higher then YOUR spores.
So, what the hell makes you better than I?
Do not kid yourself...you are me!
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: vatoloco]
#809830 - 08/10/02 07:58 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fatloco
>"you're going to feed me some christian forgiveness hog wash when you begin
your reply with name calling and fill it with insults against the community?"<
Actually, I only insulted you. I thought you had a sense of humor but I was wrong.
It is you who are insulting the average member of this community in that the average person here is not a vendor but rather an individual who stands to gain from inexpensive spore syringes.
Now do the christian thing and gooble down my wafer.
Leaf
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: vatoloco]
#809854 - 08/10/02 08:20 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Vatloco
>"you and STP deserve each other."<
Oh yeah, also, I don't know that I would personally order from him or not. I don?t mind paying a little more to get something from somebody I like. Like the folks at sporeworks or ralphster. I?m sorta getting to like Hawk too. I don?t think I like Cap, though. The guy is a bit of a prick. Personally, I'd wait and see and do a little research before I made such a decision as to whether or not I should send my money to STP. What happened to you, anyway? You go in half with LaCastrated on that ninety dollar syringe? Lol.
Leaf
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Anonymous
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
#810120 - 08/11/02 03:36 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can eat me leafblower and you too shane.
800 percent markup...you're a lier....you think these syringes make themselves? Of course not, they take a lot of time and effort to produce. You think spores fall from the sky or grow on trees? You think whoever provides the spores doesn't want to be compensated for thier efforts? You think my elves who slave away making syringes do it for FREE?
You come here LYING to the shroomerites about what it costs to make a syringe as if the actual cost for an empty syringe is the only expense....if this is what we can expect from you, you won't be welcome!
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Anonymous
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
#810385 - 08/11/02 07:10 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cap
I personally don't see your recommendation against allowing another vendor as carrying much weight. I wouldn?t want to see you or any of our other regular vendors put out of business or hurt by this guy?s offer. I don?t think STP can or will maintain those prices for long. And look at it this way, how badly did the free spore ring hurt the other vendor?s business? Not much I?ll wager. Why fear STP?
May I offer you a wafer, brother? Bend over.
Leaf
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? *DELETED* [Re: shane67]
#810435 - 08/11/02 07:37 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Post deleted by 905
Edited by 905 (08/11/02 10:36 AM)
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blitz
RIP "Ripper" akaBrandon
Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 149
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#810452 - 08/11/02 07:48 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, Shane, well it's very obvious you are just trying to hurt the other vendors business. I don't think that s agreat business practice.. but it is fair.
But, which I have said before, what site are you trying to advertise? If it's STP, then FUCK YOU (hopefully Thor agrees). If it's this new site you want to advertise... even tho I would never buy from you, I think that should be allowed... which would eb fair (but still, I think that hurts the other vendors... )
So if you just trying to advertise your new site, I tink the decision is very hard. To be fair, you should be allowed.... but you also have your other site that we truely hate, and you have flamed, etc. a lot! And also ripped off a lot of the current members way back when they were newbies.
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-blitz
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Namrepus_Revol
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#810559 - 08/11/02 09:03 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why do you charge $90 for spores anyways?
Why do you sell existing spores and rename them as something else?
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shane67
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
#812014 - 08/12/02 02:25 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I am going to make this my last post regarding this subject until Thor makes his decision. I have a lot of work to do in order to get prepared (or not).
Draig, you state: "so what's the deal bitching about vendors here marking up syringes 800% when, by those same calculations, you have been marking up GT syringes 30,000%?"
For one, of course, it is not 30,000% mark-up (I am sure you know that). Although, if someone out there would like to purchase a spore syringe for $50K HELL YES! I would drive to the other side of the country and deliver it in person!
But, I could not have said it better myself! What gives me the right to bitch about the Vendors high prices? Does it not work both ways? So, only the Vendors of the Shroomery have that right and I don't? I complain that the prices for the members of the Shroomery are VERY HIGH and you are complaining that the prices at STP are VERY HIGH for the general public! Hmmm... sounds like a two-faced question. Don't you think?
Fatloco - You are very correct. If the members of the Shroomery do not want to purchase my spores...then, so be it. But not allowing the members to make up their own minds, well...that is a dictatorship and/or censorship. The option to do so is up to each member...NOT THE VENDORS! My hat is off to your level head way of thinking.
Leafblowerz: I hope YOU will have that right to make your own decision here at the Shroomery.
CaptainMaxMushroom: You state, "800 percent markup...you're a liar....you think these syringes make themselves?"
I have been in the business for a long time. I do not HAVE TO GROW OR DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL TO OBTAIN MY SPORES. I do not grow! Therefore, MY cost is as I stated...my cost is about $1.50. I could care less what your cost is. I am able to sell my syringes to the members of the Shroomery for $3.00 each. Do not call me a liar unless you have all of the facts.
Is this not what you wanted from my company Max? Did you not want me to lower my prices?
The price of spores are subjective. The Vendors and members of the Shroomery seems to think that only THEY can place a price on spores and what is their TRUE value!?!?! You bitch because my prices are too high, now you bitch because they are too low?
You also state: "You come here LYING to the shroomerites about what it costs to make a syringe as if the actual cost for an empty syringe is the only expense....if this is what we can expect from you, you won't be welcome!"
I did not lie! The expense to ME is the price of an empty syringe...and a few more cents for this-and-that. I am forthcoming to the members here. I will not give away any of my processing secretes, but...anything else I am open.
905... I am not trying to Monopolize anything! The members ask to pay a reasonable price for spores...that is EXACTLY what I will do!
At the same time I will sponsor the Shroomery. I saw thread after thread about how I should lower my prices and I should not come to the Shroomery and "peddle" my words if I am not a Sponsor. Well, I am willing to do both. Now...I am the bad guy?
As far as jackjordan1966...he is a good customer of mine. I can FUCKING SPEAK FOR MYSELF! I don't need an alias in order to get on the Shroomery! Give me a fucking break! Do not assume anything! If someone says something good about STP...what...it must be the Keeper?!?! I have customers purchase from me that are VERY AWARE of the Shroomery. The Shroomery does not effect my business at STP in the slightest! The only reason I came back to see what was going on was because my hits to STP spiked from the Shroomery so, I had to see what was going on.
Blitz...you state: "Ok, Shane, well it's very obvious you are just trying to hurt the other vendors business. I don't think that s a great business practice.. but it is fair" Thank you.
Although, I am not trying to hurt anyone. I am sick and tired of the members and Vendors bitching about how expensive my spores are. And that spores should not have such a high price posted to them. Well, who sits the prices? Who states the price of spores and their TRUE value. The Vendors at the Shroomery? BULLSHIT!
The public dictates the prices of EVERYTHING we sale! If we can not meet the demands of the purchaser then we are doomed to fail with our business venture. It is as simple as that.
And Blitz...It is going to be different. It will not have STP on it. It will have a different domain name altogether. And only members of the shroomery may purchase from this site. This site is not for the public...it is for the Shroomery only.
Vatoloco...you state: "he is simply trying to buy our silence on the matter of his business practices
and in the process, steal from the established vendors on the boards"
Buy the silence of the Shroomery? Do you really think I am that powerful...lol.
If anything this has generated a lot of bullshit that I can live without. This will not shut up anyone. The Vendor will still bitch about STP and still let members know who I am. Nothing is going to change. The only difference is that the members can now purchase spores at a lower price. Many, I mean MANY, members will never buy spores from the new site...due to their principles. I AM VERY COOL WITH THAT. But, the option should be their nonetheless.
If nobody buys from the site and the Shroomery gets sponsorship from it...good for them and bad for me.
I am willing to do EXACTLY what the Vendors and members have been bitching at me about for years. Well, here it is.
If you don't like it then you should be a little more careful what you wish for.
You also state: "the only reason he can sell spores for 2-3$ at the back door is because he
charges 50-75-100$ at the front door"
No...you are very wrong! I can sell them for $2-$3 because I have NO GROWING EXPENSE! I do not grow...I trade. Therefore I can sell them for that price and still double my investment.
"regardless of the lure of prices, supporting this man shows a spineless disregard for the entire OMC"
You think $3 spores supports me?
Give me a break!
$3 spores will support the members of the Shroomery...NOT ME! lol!!!
The sponsorship will only support the Shroomery...not me.
Namrepus...you ask: Why do you charge $90 for spores anyways?
Answer - Because this is America...because I can.
Why do you sell existing spores and rename them as something else?
Answer - I do not! If you want to think the Z-Strain is a Golden Teacher...then, go buy a Golden Teacher.
I know where my spores come from (originally). I know what they are. If you know something that I don't, which I find very unlikely due to the fact you are not me, then go and purchase your spores from someone else.
If you want to purchase the Golden Teachers for $2-$3...then you should also have that choice. Am I wrong to think that?
P.S. I sure do see a lot of spore prices going down. So, is this not good for the Members?
It is called competition.
I am sure that even with the lowering of spore prices that Vendors are still NOT losing money.
It looks to me that maybe, just maybe, the Vendors did not have to charge the high prices that members are used to paying.
The teonanacatl or p. mexicana being called the "A" strain.
Price of spores that should cost $3 you are charging $12.
It looks like the kettle is black after all!
Like it or not Vendors, YOU ARE ME! You are just doing it on a smaller scale.
I await your decision Thor.
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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
#812035 - 08/12/02 03:08 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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It takes time to make a syringe and time is money. Don't be trying to pull the wool over peoples faces with your bullshit on what a syringe should cost. When you consider the cost of anything in todays world, $12 for a syringe is nothing. And on top of that, $12 is only for a single syringe. Very few people buy just the one syringe, 90% or more buy one of the package deals which all vendors offer and which work out to a much lower cost per syringe, closer to $6 - $8. If the price gets any lower, there will be little profit to be made and no motivation to be a vendor. Less vendors means less advertising revenue for the shroomery and the ultimate death of this website.
$4 at the back door, $90 at the front.....
I vote NO, we've got enough sleazy vendors around here. Another troublemaker running a puppet vendorship would take the cake!
But thats just me.....I don't make the descisions around here...
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