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*VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here?
    #805976 - 08/09/02 01:18 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Should "Keeper" (Spore Trading Post) be allowed to do what he is proposing here:

STP's Proposal


Do We Want STP Here?

*YES He should give Shroomery Members/Visitors special pricing.
*NO He shouldn't get our business because of his practices.
*This should be left up to Thor alone to decide.



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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #806807 - 08/09/02 11:10 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like your poll doesnt work. If it did, I would vote no. It sounds like nobody is falling for his high ass prices anymore, so he has to come here and lower the prices b/c he isint making no more money. I already know who my favorite vendors are and that will stay the same no matter if he wants to sell spores for 3 bucks a piece.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #806858 - 08/09/02 11:35 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I say he should go fuck himself. I dont need spores for $3, I'll pay the $10 or whatever from TLG (or anyone else)... hell I might even get a free one (TLG policy with all orders). So $3 + ship (well, i'm guessing there will be shipping on top of the $3) for a few common syringes, or $10 (or even $8 on sale, TLG) + $5 ship, + free syringe, so thats $15 (or even $13) for 2 syringes ($6.5 a syringe!), shipped extremely fast, from someoen whos not trying to fuck over newbies by charging WAY too much.

Oh, and sorry for using TLG as my only example, other vendors I'm sure have deals that resembles these.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #806878 - 08/09/02 11:45 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)


Do We Want STP Here?
1. YES He should give Shroomery Members/Visitors special pricing.
2. NO He Shouldn't get our business because of his practices.
3. This should be left up to Thor alone to decide.




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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #806888 - 08/09/02 11:49 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, I forgot to say, if he is strictly only advertising the $3 syringe site on the shroomery, then Ii guess he should be allowed. But if hes advertising for STP, then the shroomery will just be hurting newbies even more by guiding them to that fucks website. I think thats inly fair (even if hes only trying to do this to fuck over other vendors, which i doubt he'll be successful, and it is a 'free market')


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Thor]
    #806902 - 08/09/02 11:56 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for creating a fix for my half-asleep act of stupidity in leaving out the poll end. Glad you approve of the poll. I mainly did it to see how bad he gets trashed.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Thor]
    #806908 - 08/09/02 12:00 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I voted yes. Let him atone for his past evil doings. Heheh. But I also think it is up to Thor. It is his frigging site.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #806954 - 08/09/02 12:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Why not?


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: blitz]
    #806976 - 08/09/02 12:25 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

No. It is STRICKLY for the Shroomery. You will get an access code once a month. You will only have access to spores. No equipment or any of the bullshit named spores.

It will have NOTHING to do with STP, Inc.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #807001 - 08/09/02 12:36 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I'm with blitz. $3 + whatever Keeper would charge for shipping probably wouldn?t be any better than some of the deals offered by other vendors. And since the guy is a complete fuck, it really doesn?t matter to me what he charges. I won?t be buying anything from him, and I don't see why anyone would want him here.

It?s obviously Thor?s decision, but I voted no.
Hopefully Thor still feels the same way he did a year ago?
Keeper thread

Fuck you, Keeper.
Oh, and b-o-o h-o-o that another vendor is selling ?your? strain for less than $75.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #807004 - 08/09/02 12:37 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

That is all I am asking for.

Allow me to say, 'I am sorry'. Allow me to create a place for the members of the Shroomery to get spores for next to nothing.

As far as shipping. Whatever it cost to ship the spores via UPS is what you will be charged. I have to pay about $1.00 for the box and packing peanuts. I have an UPS account so I get really good prices for shipping. You pay $6 for a total of 2 syringes and s/h cost you about $5-$7 dollars...will, that would be about $13 bucks! Order more syringes and you get better pricing due to the fact s/h SHOULD stay a constant.

Allow me to at least get it going for you. You will place an order via credit card OR m/o and I will have the spores in the mail within 24 hours.

Show you better (my opinion only..of course) of spores collecting and making spore syringe cleanly!

You will see!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Thor]
    #807020 - 08/09/02 12:43 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I already gave this Shane guy $50 for two Ecuador syringes that were completely unviable. Why would his syringes suddenly be better for $3.

No Way!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #807041 - 08/09/02 12:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

He's already barging into other peoples threads.

Looks like a trouble maker to me!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #807050 - 08/09/02 01:00 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Good point, bush. I don?t trust his product either.
And Shane, the prices you mentioned are comparable to boxtop?s, so I still can?t figure out why we should buy anything from you. Since boxtop is not?well?you, I would much rather deal with him (or one of the other Shroomery vendors).


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #807069 - 08/09/02 01:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

So...Hawk sells his for $12 and I sell mine for $3...how do you get that it will be about the same?

I realize I am an ass, and all of that. That is why I would like to change...on step at a time. First by offering great prices to the shroomery and then...branchingit out to the net.



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    #807071 - 08/09/02 01:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #807078 - 08/09/02 01:11 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

If they were not good (spores) why didn't you just contact me?
It might have gotten cooked along the way or frozen. Whichever the case, my company would have made it right...we always do.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: vatoloco]
    #807131 - 08/09/02 01:31 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Fatloco

Looks to me like a lot of vendors here have "fleeced newbies", so to speak. A while back I paid three times or so to a local vendor here what I could have paid if I did a little research on drierite. I sure as hell am not going to blame the vendor. Of course nobody is going to fleece you if you do a little homework. Unless you've gotten your fingers diced off in a mowing accident, you're as capable as the next person at punching in some data into a search engine. You know, some of you people would cut off your own peckers to spite your old lady's face.

Let the man atone for his evil doings. Ain't that the fucking Christian way?

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #807137 - 08/09/02 01:32 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

In answer to your question...

You can get 2 TLG syringes for as low as $6.50 - $7.50 each
You can get 5 TLG syringes for as low as about $6.00 - $7.00 each
Current TLG special: 8 syringes for $6.25 each
All of these prices include shipping (If someone sees a mistake, then please correct me)

Now do you see? The prices you are purposing don?t sound so special.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #807182 - 08/09/02 01:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Actually:

3 x Cambodian ($8 each)+ 1 free Cambodian + 1 free gulf Coast + $5 ship

$29 / 5 = $5.8 a syringe

of course that low of a price is very limited, but his weekly deals (hence weekly) do change often.

Also, liek I said before, even tho the prcies are very close.. I'd still rather pay $15 for 1 syringe from *any* vendor rather then paying $3 for a syringe from STP.

But more importantly, which I think Thor agrees (or I atleast hope so) is that the shroomery is probably a main reason for a lot of people NOT ordering from STP, (which I think Thor, and the rest of us are very proud of) and if there was STP advertisements, I think a lot of newbies would have a very hard time making the "right" decision.

And even more importantly, obviously, this is going to HELP STP's business, which, if it was for anyone else I would be sayign the opposite, but in this case, I think the majority of the peope here would love to se ehim go out of business.

Now he's claiming he 'wants to change'... but I'm 99% sure he's just full of shit. And from what I've seen, hes also a complete asshole.

And I think most of us really hate this fuck because we almost (or if your unlucky, you did) order from this guy, which woul dof been an extreme rip-off.

In defense of the Keeper, other people do charge more for products then they should, and his business is legit (he's not exactly 'ripping people off'), but his prices are complete bull shit, and I feel bad for the idiots that order from him.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #807233 - 08/09/02 02:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

shane67, you say you want to change.

Does this mean you will no longer be lieing to your customers about selling Bluemeanies when you are really just selling another cube?

Does this mean you will no longer be selling the Z-strain for $95 which is actually the Golden Teacher?

Are you gonna stop selling Tazmanian strain for $75?, Or are you gonna continue to still charge these prices to newbs but we are all supposed to look the other way because you are giving The Shroomery members a discount?

In other words, are you shutting down STP? Because if the answer is no then it is quite clear you are just trying to buy us so we no longer complain about your rip-off prices.

I also like the way you swoop back in here with your flames and then try and put The Shroomery vendors (the one's who are charging reasonable prices) out of business by undercutting them.

IMO, you are worse then ever. Go back to your rock.






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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? *DELETED* [Re: TM]
    #807306 - 08/09/02 03:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: titofernandez]
    #807313 - 08/09/02 03:36 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I think the only way he should be allowed to be a vendor here is if he lowers ALL his prices. How come you are just lowering the prices of the regular cubes, but your so called "hybrids" will still be the same? Why not try and help the community by spreading spores for a decent price. Its bad enough that mj seeds are expensive enough, why make spores that much too, besides trying to make some easy money. Even if they really are hybrids, which I doubt, why do they have to be so much? I think a reasonable price of 15 or 20 bucks would be right if it indeed is a hybrid. We are all here to help one another and spread the spores for a decent price b/c we all love growing mushrooms, just like im sure you do.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: blitz]
    #807357 - 08/09/02 04:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Personaly I think he is up to somthing.....just my gut feeling I seriously doubt that he had a spiritual awakening


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #807457 - 08/09/02 05:07 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

905

>"By giving money to the shroomery he can also stop the negative publicity.<"

Sheeeit. I'm not so sure about that! Lol.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #807589 - 08/09/02 06:37 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I have spent most of my life growing mj where you have people trying to rip us off all the time. People who offer $10.00 Indica seeds and send mexican instead. Offer great deals, then you get seeds that don't grow. Replace the seeds with spores and thats whats going on here. He's not offering deals, he's hunting for victims. A bad used car salesman gone spore dealer. A newbie who gets fucked by a bad dealer is going to think this is the nature of the business, it reflects on more than just him.
He comes on the site and admitted he was full of shit, then tries to feed us more shit. I'm a newbie and I feel like someone just tried to rape me.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Magash]
    #807808 - 08/09/02 08:10 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

Personaly I think he is up to somthing.....just my gut feeling I seriously doubt that he had a spiritual awakening




EXACTLY anyone thinks he just wants to be our friends is mistaken. he has flamed on his first post, do we need someone to start another spore war?
he is pissed because we wont fall for him, and pass the information that he is a nothing but a low life crook, to anyone who asks about him or his sevices.
a banner here is the same as condoning his efforts of relieving pre-teens of their hard earned babysitting money, or raping the newbies and uninformed.
WE are better than shane. i cant believe the shroomery is even considering letting him in.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808264 - 08/10/02 06:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's fine of the Shroomery let's STP become a vendor, but I think we should also give some other companies a chance to promote their fine products as well.

How about Wizard Smoke?


Should The Shroomery allow Wizard Smoke to be a new vendor?
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No






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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Learyfan]
    #808329 - 08/10/02 07:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Learyfan]
    #808332 - 08/10/02 07:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Is Wizard Smoke this fake marijuana?

Again, just to set clear, the poll doesn?t really have anything with the decision about who can and will advertize here.

If this Wizard smoke would like to advertize here, then this company should email Thor.

Are you in any way involved with this company?


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Anonymous]
    #808603 - 08/10/02 10:41 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Whew!! What a BROWN NOSE!!!!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #808661 - 08/10/02 11:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Does this site have a mission statement?
I would just like to see what the Shroomery is trying to accomplish. Does anyone know where it is?

I am sorry about that Spam (if that is what you want to call it). Things have changed since I was away. It will not happen again.

Listen. All I want to do is give the Shroomery another Vendor to choose from. That is not going to change anyone's opinion of me. If you order spores and something goes wrong...well, I think it is safe to say that the word would get out in about a new-york-second.

And if you do not want to purchase $3 spores then...don't.



If you do not want to buy spores from me then so be it. But the ones that do...you have no right to force your hatred onto them and their $.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #808684 - 08/10/02 11:17 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

P.S. I do not feel that this is a fear voting poll.

This poll is being voted on by vendors and friends of vendors.

The people that should be voting are in the other forums!

I ask that all should be aware of this voting poll.
After all, your 45 votes are going to effect thousands, if not tens of thousands of members the come to the Shroomery.

This decision should not be left up to greedy vendors and their girlfriends.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808750 - 08/10/02 11:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808813 - 08/10/02 12:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Our votes aren't going to affect anything. These votes don?t decide the issue...this thread is just a forum for us to share our thoughts about the idea.
BTW, "customer" and "friend" aren't synonyms.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: boxtop703]
    #808838 - 08/10/02 12:47 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Wait. You immediately disgrace me then expect the vote to be non-bias?

"well, the keeper wants to be a paid advertiser here. besides being a con artist, he has started the flames w/ his first post back. this will tell a lot about just what the admins are about. do they keep their honor, or do they sell out for the mighty buck. just how does the members feel? give your vote"

Give me a break. You are attempting to 'stuff' the ballet with that kind of crap!

What the hell are you doing?!?!?!

You are attempting to persuade the voters before they even have the chance to think for themselves.

What kind of person are you. Oh...yeah, you are a Vendor. I almost forgot. Now I see why you are doing this.

This is not right and I will show Thor what you are doing!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #808847 - 08/10/02 12:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

MachanicMan...I know what the hell it is!

The voting is only being done here!
This is where the Vendors tend to circle...waiting for someone to buy their spores.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808849 - 08/10/02 12:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The vendor isn't the one who started that poll. He was just showing you the link.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808858 - 08/10/02 01:02 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

And another thing. I already see prices dropping from the venors. You are charging the members of the shroomery 800% more then it cost you to produce. Is this right? Should you be doing this to the good members of the shroomery?

This Shroomery has been bitching for as long as I can remember about the true COST of spores. Well, I am finally going to give it to them. Who are you to try and band me from doing so.

To be quite honest...I think I just might sell the spores for $2 each. After all, that is the TRUE price of the spores (after the cost of processing). Would that make you feel better?



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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #808861 - 08/10/02 01:05 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I apologize. He is just pointing people to it.

Nevertheless it is being done. Is this right? Is this a monitor that is doing this? Is this the way monitors conduct themselves?


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808871 - 08/10/02 01:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Like everyone has said, the vote really means nothing, its just to show us, what the rest of us think.... and to tell you the truth, the poll could do nothing but help you, since as you obviously know, the people around here dont like you (for completely obvious reasons), and well, the only thing that would surprise people would be to see people voting yes, allow him to be a sponsor. (voting no, would just be completely expected)

Also, as it's been stated, this thread really has nothing to do with Thor's decision.... well, hopefully he sees how much we fucking hate you for your previous, and current practices/actions (more importantly, the people that did get fucked over, and are now member of the shrooomery, are probably VERY against you)

As for the shroomery's 'mission statement,' which I am not sure exists (i'm guessing not) would probably include "Helping newbies not get fucked over or over charged by vendors and traders."

I mean, does that not sound like a reasonable statement of atleast one of the things this site is for?

and Shane, do you NOT fit under this category of vendors who overcharge 'newbies' ?

I'm just hoping Thor see's this (his) site the 'same way'


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808907 - 08/10/02 01:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

ummm shane.... if I was you I would stop complaining and whining and bitching... that's just gonna get you no where.

No what you should do is get your nose a little brown and try to persuade people you fucking idiot!!!

although I will never support you, just giving you a tip...


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808925 - 08/10/02 02:02 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Shane 67,

You must feel pretty guilty coming out here and repenting because you knew $90 is way to much to pay for a syringe and call it something which it is not. Your Z-strain was pretty cool, guess what it turned out to be golden teacher. You still owe me $80 the way I see it, because a syringe should never be over $10.

Give me your adress Id like to send you some LaCasta's brew, its the type you drink, and it mainly consists of mine and vato's piss.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808928 - 08/10/02 02:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)


Considering your not so great past, why dont you start from begining? Creating new logo etc? STP has allways been on bad reputation. I do not know why, maybe you know.

Others, what the hell you know about anything to vote and post on this topic? Unless you are all vendors/admins.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #808937 - 08/10/02 02:17 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Shane 67,

You must feel pretty guilty coming out here and repenting. Maybe because you knew $90 was way too fucking much to charge for a syringe. The Z-Strain turned out to be pretty cool, actually it turned out to be Golden Teachers. The way I see it you still owe me $80, becasue a syringe should never be more than $10. Im too high to get into other things like keeper's brew.

I wish I would have found the shroomery before STP, Inc. God I hate you Shane.

P.S.

I would like to send you some LaCasta's brew, its the type that helps your shrooms grow by drinking it, and it consists of mainly mine and vatoloco's piss.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #809191 - 08/10/02 04:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

He should be allowed to trade here. Ok he's not to be trusted. I wouldn't order from him, nor would many who have posted on this thread. There are plenty of guinea pigs on this site for us to see how he acts.

People who do wrong should be given a chance to redeem themselves. I just hope this fellow isn't up to something.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #809313 - 08/10/02 05:48 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Sure, we should let you peddle your wares here. So you can undercut all the other venders here, which you can do because cheat people that are new to the community. Sorry, I like them a whole lot better then I like you. Your a jerk, plain and simple. If you want to give to the community, make your sight an apology to all the people you have screwed over, start a new FSR backed by your own money.

Honestly I would not buy from someone like you, if you charge newbie's $90 for a syringe, what makes me feel confident that you wouldn't keep lists of addresses, and sell them to the highest bidder?

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #809749 - 08/10/02 09:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

To be quite honest...I think I just might sell the spores for $2 each. After all, that is the TRUE price of the spores (after the cost of processing). Would that make you feel better?



You Capitalist Pig!!!!!!!

How dare you try and cut the market for your own gain just to get on this site. The people here have expanded minds and are more interested in being Citizens of the Human Race. What I mean to say is that a mind expanding experience should be embraced and shared by all brothers and sisters.
Your profit gaining efforts are futile and humorous, how dare you insult the intelligence of the members here.

Thank you very much.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shroomerylurker]
    #809771 - 08/10/02 09:25 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Let me make myself clear. I AM NOT SORRY FOR MY SITE AT STP! I would never take that down.

If you do not like the site...don't go there. Warn people not to shop there. I could really care less with what any of you think about that site.

But, as for the new site for the Shroomery...that, of course, is going to be different. It will not have STP on it.
It will have a different domain name altogether.

And only members of the shroomery may purchase from this site. This site is not for the public...it is for the Shroomery.
The site is NOT to atone for my other site. It is to give the Shroomery what it has been asking from me for the last 3 years....AFFORDABLE SPORES.
Will, now you will be able to get them for $3 or FREE with a trade-in. If you don't like it...tough shit! DON'T SHOP THERE!

If I want to sell my spores at a good price...who are you guys to sensor me? I think the...'I don't like the way he treats others'...is getting tiring.

You can buy my spores or you do not buy my spores. You are making your own choice.

Do not allow a few people to monopolize the spores at the shroomery. Competition is good! We base our entire economy on it!

I am already seeing prices drop! This is good for the members at the shroomery! REMEMBER THEM VENDORS?

I want the members here to be able to purchase spores for their TRUE WORTH.
My GOD shroomery! You bitch about my prices being too high so I agree to sell them for what they are REALLY worth, and you are still complaining! Now you are saying they are too cheap! That I am trying to undercut you? What the hell do you want!

Your prices are about a 800% markup on the true cost of producing spores.

Well, some of my spores at STP are 800% higher then YOUR spores.
So, what the hell makes you better than I?
Do not kid yourself...you are me!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: vatoloco]
    #809830 - 08/10/02 09:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Fatloco

>"you're going to feed me some christian forgiveness hog wash when you begin
your reply with name calling and fill it with insults against the community?"<

Actually, I only insulted you. I thought you had a sense of humor but I was wrong.

It is you who are insulting the average member of this community in that the average person here is not a vendor but rather an individual who stands to gain from inexpensive spore syringes.

Now do the christian thing and gooble down my wafer.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: vatoloco]
    #809854 - 08/10/02 10:20 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Vatloco

>"you and STP deserve each other."<

Oh yeah, also, I don't know that I would personally order from him or not. I don?t mind paying a little more to get something from somebody I like. Like the folks at sporeworks or ralphster. I?m sorta getting to like Hawk too. I don?t think I like Cap, though. The guy is a bit of a prick. Personally, I'd wait and see and do a little research before I made such a decision as to whether or not I should send my money to STP. What happened to you, anyway? You go in half with LaCastrated on that ninety dollar syringe? Lol.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #810120 - 08/11/02 05:36 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

You can eat me leafblower and you too shane.

800 percent markup...you're a lier....you think these syringes make themselves? Of course not, they take a lot of time and effort to produce. You think spores fall from the sky or grow on trees? You think whoever provides the spores doesn't want to be compensated for thier efforts? You think my elves who slave away making syringes do it for FREE?

You come here LYING to the shroomerites about what it costs to make a syringe as if the actual cost for an empty syringe is the only expense....if this is what we can expect from you, you won't be welcome!



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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #810385 - 08/11/02 09:10 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Cap

I personally don't see your recommendation against allowing another vendor as carrying much weight. I wouldn?t want to see you or any of our other regular vendors put out of business or hurt by this guy?s offer. I don?t think STP can or will maintain those prices for long. And look at it this way, how badly did the free spore ring hurt the other vendor?s business? Not much I?ll wager. Why fear STP?

May I offer you a wafer, brother? Bend over.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? *DELETED* [Re: shane67]
    #810435 - 08/11/02 09:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #810452 - 08/11/02 09:48 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, Shane, well it's very obvious you are just trying to hurt the other vendors business. I don't think that s agreat business practice.. but it is fair.

But, which I have said before, what site are you trying to advertise? If it's STP, then FUCK YOU (hopefully Thor agrees). If it's this new site you want to advertise... even tho I would never buy from you, I think that should be allowed... which would eb fair (but still, I think that hurts the other vendors... )

So if you just trying to advertise your new site, I tink the decision is very hard. To be fair, you should be allowed.... but you also have your other site that we truely hate, and you have flamed, etc. a lot! And also ripped off a lot of the current members way back when they were newbies.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #810559 - 08/11/02 11:03 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Why do you charge $90 for spores anyways?

Why do you sell existing spores and rename them as something else?


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #812014 - 08/12/02 04:25 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)


I think I am going to make this my last post regarding this subject until Thor makes his decision. I have a lot of work to do in order to get prepared (or not).

Draig, you state: "so what's the deal bitching about vendors here marking up syringes 800% when, by those same calculations, you have been marking up GT syringes 30,000%?"

For one, of course, it is not 30,000% mark-up (I am sure you know that). Although, if someone out there would like to purchase a spore syringe for $50K HELL YES! I would drive to the other side of the country and deliver it in person!

But, I could not have said it better myself! What gives me the right to bitch about the Vendors high prices? Does it not work both ways? So, only the Vendors of the Shroomery have that right and I don't? I complain that the prices for the members of the Shroomery are VERY HIGH and you are complaining that the prices at STP are VERY HIGH for the general public! Hmmm... sounds like a two-faced question. Don't you think?

Fatloco - You are very correct. If the members of the Shroomery do not want to purchase my spores...then, so be it. But not allowing the members to make up their own minds, well...that is a dictatorship and/or censorship. The option to do so is up to each member...NOT THE VENDORS! My hat is off to your level head way of thinking.

Leafblowerz: I hope YOU will have that right to make your own decision here at the Shroomery.

CaptainMaxMushroom: You state, "800 percent markup...you're a liar....you think these syringes make themselves?"

I have been in the business for a long time. I do not HAVE TO GROW OR DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL TO OBTAIN MY SPORES. I do not grow! Therefore, MY cost is as I stated...my cost is about $1.50. I could care less what your cost is. I am able to sell my syringes to the members of the Shroomery for $3.00 each. Do not call me a liar unless you have all of the facts.

Is this not what you wanted from my company Max? Did you not want me to lower my prices?

The price of spores are subjective. The Vendors and members of the Shroomery seems to think that only THEY can place a price on spores and what is their TRUE value!?!?! You bitch because my prices are too high, now you bitch because they are too low?

You also state: "You come here LYING to the shroomerites about what it costs to make a syringe as if the actual cost for an empty syringe is the only expense....if this is what we can expect from you, you won't be welcome!"

I did not lie! The expense to ME is the price of an empty syringe...and a few more cents for this-and-that. I am forthcoming to the members here. I will not give away any of my processing secretes, but...anything else I am open.

905... I am not trying to Monopolize anything! The members ask to pay a reasonable price for spores...that is EXACTLY what I will do!
At the same time I will sponsor the Shroomery. I saw thread after thread about how I should lower my prices and I should not come to the Shroomery and "peddle" my words if I am not a Sponsor. Well, I am willing to do both. Now...I am the bad guy?

As far as jackjordan1966...he is a good customer of mine. I can FUCKING SPEAK FOR MYSELF! I don't need an alias in order to get on the Shroomery! Give me a fucking break! Do not assume anything! If someone says something good about STP...what...it must be the Keeper?!?! I have customers purchase from me that are VERY AWARE of the Shroomery. The Shroomery does not effect my business at STP in the slightest! The only reason I came back to see what was going on was because my hits to STP spiked from the Shroomery so, I had to see what was going on.

Blitz...you state: "Ok, Shane, well it's very obvious you are just trying to hurt the other vendors business. I don't think that s a great business practice.. but it is fair" Thank you.

Although, I am not trying to hurt anyone. I am sick and tired of the members and Vendors bitching about how expensive my spores are. And that spores should not have such a high price posted to them. Well, who sits the prices? Who states the price of spores and their TRUE value. The Vendors at the Shroomery? BULLSHIT!

The public dictates the prices of EVERYTHING we sale! If we can not meet the demands of the purchaser then we are doomed to fail with our business venture. It is as simple as that.

And Blitz...It is going to be different. It will not have STP on it. It will have a different domain name altogether. And only members of the shroomery may purchase from this site. This site is not for the public...it is for the Shroomery only.

Vatoloco...you state: "he is simply trying to buy our silence on the matter of his business practices
and in the process, steal from the established vendors on the boards"

Buy the silence of the Shroomery? Do you really think I am that powerful...lol.

If anything this has generated a lot of bullshit that I can live without. This will not shut up anyone. The Vendor will still bitch about STP and still let members know who I am. Nothing is going to change. The only difference is that the members can now purchase spores at a lower price. Many, I mean MANY, members will never buy spores from the new site...due to their principles. I AM VERY COOL WITH THAT. But, the option should be their nonetheless.

If nobody buys from the site and the Shroomery gets sponsorship from it...good for them and bad for me.
I am willing to do EXACTLY what the Vendors and members have been bitching at me about for years. Well, here it is.
If you don't like it then you should be a little more careful what you wish for.

You also state: "the only reason he can sell spores for 2-3$ at the back door is because he
charges 50-75-100$ at the front door"

No...you are very wrong! I can sell them for $2-$3 because I have NO GROWING EXPENSE! I do not grow...I trade. Therefore I can sell them for that price and still double my investment.

"regardless of the lure of prices, supporting this man shows a spineless disregard for the entire OMC"

You think $3 spores supports me?
Give me a break!
$3 spores will support the members of the Shroomery...NOT ME! lol!!!
The sponsorship will only support the Shroomery...not me.

Namrepus...you ask: Why do you charge $90 for spores anyways?

Answer - Because this is America...because I can.


Why do you sell existing spores and rename them as something else?

Answer - I do not! If you want to think the Z-Strain is a Golden Teacher...then, go buy a Golden Teacher.

I know where my spores come from (originally). I know what they are. If you know something that I don't, which I find very unlikely due to the fact you are not me, then go and purchase your spores from someone else.

If you want to purchase the Golden Teachers for $2-$3...then you should also have that choice. Am I wrong to think that?

P.S. I sure do see a lot of spore prices going down. So, is this not good for the Members?

It is called competition.

I am sure that even with the lowering of spore prices that Vendors are still NOT losing money.
It looks to me that maybe, just maybe, the Vendors did not have to charge the high prices that members are used to paying.

The teonanacatl or p. mexicana being called the "A" strain.
Price of spores that should cost $3 you are charging $12.

It looks like the kettle is black after all!
Like it or not Vendors, YOU ARE ME! You are just doing it on a smaller scale.

I await your decision Thor.



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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #812035 - 08/12/02 05:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

It takes time to make a syringe and time is money. Don't be trying to pull the wool over peoples faces with your bullshit on what a syringe should cost. When you consider the cost of anything in todays world, $12 for a syringe is nothing. And on top of that, $12 is only for a single syringe. Very few people buy just the one syringe, 90% or more buy one of the package deals which all vendors offer and which work out to a much lower cost per syringe, closer to $6 - $8. If the price gets any lower, there will be little profit to be made and no motivation to be a vendor. Less vendors means less advertising revenue for the shroomery and the ultimate death of this website.
$4 at the back door, $90 at the front.....
I vote NO, we've got enough sleazy vendors around here. Another troublemaker running a puppet vendorship would take the cake!

But thats just me.....I don't make the descisions around here...


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: TM]
    #812052 - 08/12/02 05:24 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

One entry found for profiteer.


Main Entry: prof?i?teer
Pronunciation: "pr?-f&-'tir
Function: noun
Date: 1912
: one who makes what is considered an unreasonable profit especially on the sale of essential goods during times of emergency
- profiteer intransitive verb


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #813228 - 08/12/02 04:33 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Captain...my Captain!

You seem to be getting a little upset.

Are you upset because I am stating that you are charging too high of a price for your spores? Hmmm...now you are the one dictating to me how HIGH a spore syringe should be sold ...based on what Captain?!?!?! YOUR COST?

You want to set the minimum and the maximum prices for syringes now? Boy...you just want it all don't you!?!?

You state: "Don't be trying to pull the wool over peoples faces with your bullshit on what a syringe should cost. "

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW...LOL...LOL!!!
So...your time is worth...say....$10 per syringe? You are thinking oughly high of youself are you not my Captain?

You state: 'When you consider the cost of anything in today's world, $12 for a syringe is nothing'.

Well Captain that would depend on who you are asking...wouldn't you say? Try telling a member that in a few weeks when they just bought the exact same syringe with their last few bucks from our new site and not from yours.

You also state: "$12 is only for a single syringe. Very few people buy just the one syringe, 90% or more buy one of the package deals which all vendors offer and which work out to a much lower cost per syringe, closer to $6 - $8."

Allow me to do the math....3 syringe x $8 = $24 + s/h
3 syringes x $3 = $9 + s/h.

Hmmmm...Well, I am no mathematician but, I believe that your prices still SUCK!

My site will be able to ship same day or next morning.
Send a UPS tracking number via email to each member.
Guarantee that it is a viable and a clean syringe.
I have enough spores of each strain to last me about 20 years!

You state: If the price gets any lower, there will be little profit to be made and no motivation to be a vendor.

You want to deny the members of the Shroomery this service because you might have to go get a job!?!?! lol lol!!!

You state: "I vote NO, we've got enough sleazy vendors around here. Another troublemaker running a puppet vendorship would take the cake!"

Captain...who is the sleazy vendor here?
Someone trying to sell syringes for $12 each when there is a site that sells the same ones for $2 - $3?
Hmmm...doesn't this sound familiar Captain? The only difference is that now the shoe is on the other foot!

You have said over and over that no one would support me so, what the hell are you worried about!
Again...if I do not deliver like I state then the ENTIRE Shroomery will know about it.


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #813309 - 08/12/02 05:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Shroomery community for costing shane a customer, namely me.

I had done a search for spore suppliers, and found STP. I was interested, and thinking of buying from him, but continued searching.

That's when I found the Shroomery.

People here set me straight. Now I know that $90 for a syringe is a ripoff unless the spores are from a new strain that has interesting new properties, and then only for a spore grower, who is supplying a vendor, or someone who is at least more than a hobbyist.

Complain all you want about vendors reselling the creeper strain. I do believe those people may owe you for a liscense to resell your strain, but many unkowledgeable hobbyists have fallen for your scheme, and losing controll of your strains is just karma coming back on you.

Just because "this is America" any you have the "right' to do something, doesn't make it the right thing to do. You have become a victim of the free market you have exploited, and your kettle makes all the rest look grey in comparison.



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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: ]
    #813365 - 08/12/02 06:24 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Like I've said in prior posts, you get up in the morning, and with the first step out the front porch you start taking risks...

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #814440 - 08/13/02 08:43 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

>You have said over and over that no one would support me..

I' ve never said anything about people supporting you, thats you making things up, as usual.

The SporeLab doesn't undercut the competition nor fleece customers. We charge the same as everybody else.

You however both fleece customers with your $90 spores and undercut the competition with your $3 crap.

It's that type of sleazy marketing, scheming used car-salesman trickery that we don't need......we got enough of that crap around here already!

And your 3000 word macman-esque essays.....gotta go!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Thor]
    #817754 - 08/15/02 12:27 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Well, while the system managed to dump all of my wonderful posts with the recent crash, it sure as fuck remembered that I had already voted. Heheh.

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: leafblowerz]
    #817804 - 08/15/02 12:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

>while the system managed to dump all of my wonderful posts with the recent crash

Your posts are still there:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?Cat=&Forum=All_Forums&Words=leafblowerz&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: Anno]
    #817859 - 08/15/02 01:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Anno

It shows they are present in your link but when I click on any going back any further than today, they aren't there. Oh well. But I never ever said anything ugly about you, honest. Just that mean cap'n max. Ok, well maybe a couple of other people in OTD. :3)

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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: shane67]
    #821371 - 08/16/02 04:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The "creeper strain" belongs to the God that created the mushroom and us
so you can't steal something that was given to us as a gift. One of the things i like most about the shroomery is the integrity of it's members. Allowing the keeper to sell here would be like whoring this site out for money. So if the wolf puts on sheeps clothing do you let it become part of the herd? Of course not. If the shroomery needs cash we can raise it. If i have to become a vendor, buy space
and sell syringes to help out I will do it , just say the word. I'm not a vendor btw.
Or the friend of one. I am a shroomerite that cares about this community.
I trust Thor will make the right decision.
PS Do us a REAL!! favor and crawl back in your hole Shane...Thanks in advance You got a lot of nerve Pal!!


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Re: *VOTE* Should STP Be A Sponsor/Vendor Here? [Re: staindblue]
    #821607 - 08/16/02 06:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

if the shroomery has to stoop so low to accept the keeper for finacial reasons, maybe it should use the idea of "donation" mini-banners, or do as the FF does, and have a little sign by the avatars for contributors ( i liked that when i was there, nifty). let the members help out ,without resorting to lowering our standards by accepting a person who NOBODY here likes, or wants here.


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