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"Rich"
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So I've been attending these engineering entrepreneurship "View from the Top" lectures here at Cal. All the speakers being independently wealthy, one of them gave his philosophy about being "rich."

"Being rich isn't about having a big number in your bank account. Being rich is being able to go around the world, hiking up mountains, carrying a 15 kilogram backpack full of camera equipment, skipping lunch, and taking pictures. Being rich is having the time to do that."

Unfortunately, in capitalistic America, not everyone can be "rich" by his standards. Paradoxically, in order to be the latter "rich" you must gain financial independence. Alas, much of America, and much of the world must work and toil everyday just to survive. Indeed, even those of us who drive $150 000 Porschas are in fact no bit "richer" than a driver of a beaten up bucket of bolts.


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Re: "Rich" [Re: daba]
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It all depends on who you are....BUT I hate going more than a day or two without eating.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: "Rich" [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Unless it's a vision quest. :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Rich" [Re: Icelander]
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There is always an exception....but one can eat shrooms on a vision quest...another exception. It is also a way to avoid going hungry.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: "Rich" [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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If I was eating them to avoid hunger then I want mine in chocolate. You need some fat you know.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Rich" [Re: Icelander]
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I used to brew beer. I have been thinking that it would be cool to add liquified shrooms to a batch.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: "Rich" [Re: daba]
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Hi Daba, how's it going?

"Being rich isn't about having a big number in your bank account. Being rich is being able to go around the world, hiking up mountains, carrying a 15 kilogram backpack full of camera equipment, skipping lunch, and taking pictures. Being rich is having the time to do that."


It sounds to me like that guy was differentiating between being rich and being wealthy. Not all rich people are wealthy, and not all wealthy people are rich. For example if I were the CEO of a nation-wide retail company, and became a millionaire a few years down the road, I am rich, but in order to maintain that quality of living, I would have to maintain that career. However, if I owned several acres of real estate in downtown Manhattan, which are rented out by high-class long-term business tenants like ChaseManhattan bank, then not only would I be rich, but I would be wealthy, because there is minimal effort to maintain that quality of living - then I would have the freedom to go out on the Swiss Alps with a ten pound backpack of camera equipment and other goodies, or travel the world whenever I wanted to.



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Re: "Rich" [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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Good point, and a lucrative investment option, Skorp. Now, how are you going to get the liquid capital used to buy those downtown real estate worth millions in Manhattan?

Oh, and you like the avatar?


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Re: "Rich" [Re: daba]
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While I don't think money is necessary for happiness, it certianly seems to help!

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Re: "Rich" [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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"The richest person isn't the one who has the most,
it's the person who needs the least."-anonymous(?)

I  go backpacking once in awhile and go for nature walks on good days and still have a full time job, school, social life and shroomery.
It's just a matter of how you manage your priorities.
some get "rich" that way:shrug:

peace  :stoned: :thumbup:


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?Religion is science, politics is Hollywood, and 50 cent is more influential than Dali Lama; welcome to the future?
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"Blessed are the peacemakers." Matthew 5:9

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Re: "Rich" [Re: daba]
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being rich, or wealthy, is irelevant compared to being happy and at peace.

Happiness comes from control over your own mind. The ability to choose weather any given stimulus creates a negative or positive reaction is the ONLY requirement for happiness.

If you can master your emotions, money is about as nescessary as a comb for a bald man, or shoes for a palm tree.


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Everything I post is fiction.

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Re: "Rich" [Re: TheCheat]
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TheCheat said:
"The richest person isn't the one who has the most,
it's the person who needs the least."-anonymous(?)

I  go backpacking once in awhile and go for nature walks on good days and still have a full time job, school, social life and shroomery.
It's just a matter of how you manage your priorities.
some get "rich" that way:shrug:

peace  :stoned: :thumbup:


Your way is my way. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Rich" [Re: Icelander]
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I appreciate all of your responses, but how many of you actually were in a situation when you had enough money that you could travelling for months without having to worry about your financial state?


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Re: "Rich" [Re: daba]
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I have been much of my life and am now.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Rich" [Re: Icelander]
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icelander is like an iceberg. He drifts, he goes deep, he is heavy, but bouyant.

these are the thoughts that i have.


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Everything I post is fiction.

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Re: "Rich" [Re: daba]
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I am currently in such a state. I do not consider myself rich(financially) or wealthy. I just got back from a week long trip out west, and will soon be taking a two week trip to more agreeable climates.
If I wanted I could probably stay retired for 20 years and live moderately. But instead I have chosen to invest in a few things and spend the rest bettering the lives of those I care about, and having some fun in the process. Then, at the time of my choosing, I will give it up and join the Army.

There is a fulfilling quality about being able to do what you want, but it is not what I want. For my life to be rich I feel I need to accomplish certain goals. Not many years ago I thought about being in my current position everyday. It was my goal. Now I've attained it and it is not what I had thought it would be.

But I think that guy is talking about the monetary difference of rich and wealth. To me rich is $10,000,000+ Wealthy is $250,000,000+
Basically, rich is the ability to live very nice. Wealth is the ability to live like, or better than, the rich guy and not have to work for it. Living off investments and interest.


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Re: "Rich" [Re: daba]
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Now, how are you going to get the liquid capital used to buy those downtown real estate worth millions in Manhattan?

Well, it involves cross-dressing, lots of makeup, fine liquor, and the damnest impression of Donald's trump wife that I can pull off. :uptosomething:

Oh, and you like the avatar?

How could I ever resist the Tila? :heart:






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Re: "Rich" [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said:
icelander is like an iceberg. He drifts, he goes deep, he is heavy, but bouyant.

these are the thoughts that i have.


Wow! That's about the sweetest darn thing anyone has ever said about me. :emocry:  :flowers: I'm going to change your rating back to a 5.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (11/17/05 10:09 PM)

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Re: "Rich" [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said:
The ability to choose weather any given stimulus creates a negative or positive reaction is the ONLY requirement for happiness.


If only I could choose to be happy.  :syringe:

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Re: "Rich" [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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You can choose to be happy. You do it by unconditionally accepting whatever is happening in your life in each moment. This is not a pipe dream, it's an aquired skill like any other. The best blue print I have seen is Ken Keyes, The Handbook to Higher Consciousness. Try it for one month and you will begin to have control of your happiness. Most people will not try it though because they are convinced ( egoic fear) it cannot work for them.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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