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Tantric Spiritual Experience
    #4077206 - 04/20/05 03:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Shortly after beginning to study and practice Tantra, I began having intense experiences of spiritual communion with divine, energetic beings. I have felt amazing sensations of energy transforming my body, and have experienced physical changes in my body composition (i.e. increased muscle tone, decreased body fat) without having changed my diet or exercise. My question is: Has anyone else experienced the same or similar spiritual and physical effects from Tantric practice?


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: Veritas]
    #4077242 - 04/20/05 03:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Shortly after beginning to study and practice Tantra, I began having intense experiences of spiritual communion with divine, energetic beings.  I have felt amazing sensations of energy transforming my body, and have experienced physical changes in my body composition (i.e. increased muscle tone, decreased body fat) without having changed my diet or exercise.  My question is: Has anyone else experienced the same or similar spiritual and physical effects from Tantric practice?




Veritas, You are a beautiful Divine soul. I am so happy for you. I am working towards this with my partner. :wink: I have a lot of sexual repression from my childhood and my partner is so very supportive in the work I have to do. She is a constant inspiration to me and sex with her has been wonderfully challenging and healing. It's the most important work on spiritually I've tackled in many years.  :heart:


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: Icelander]
    #4077248 - 04/20/05 03:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

By the way. Welcome to the Shroomery. I hope to hear more from you. :smile: :mushroom2:


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: Veritas]
    #4077663 - 04/20/05 05:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I seem to intuit my way through the stuff others study and I'll add confirmation to your experience for you. Those beings are awesome helpers. I got em working on energy body upgrades as we speak shifting gear ratio's around. In the case of the energy body matrix that supports the physical, the chakras act like gears.

Lately I feel like I have been peddaling fast on a ten speed bike in first gear and want to shift up in gears to not have to peddle so fast to go the same speed. There's no resistance and life is getting way too easy right now and it feels strange. I feel like I want to make it a little harder to peddle to strengthen up this puupy more and get it to take on more energy.

Blah Blah anyway. Tantra is awesome to study. Cool for you. You will be able to keep yourself and lovers blissfully satisfied.

Spudamore here studies it, but he hasn't posted in a while.

Welcome! :heart:


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4077683 - 04/20/05 05:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

is this anything like meet the fockers?


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4077740 - 04/20/05 05:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I have yet to see that. Plan to rent it as soon as it comes out. I LOVED Meet the Parents.

Geez FOCKER! It's just a game.

Soo, plan to have any littlre fockers running around?

Funny movie! Was Meet the Fockers any good? It'll be nice to see Babs again. She's sort of dropped out of the limelight for a spell.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: Veritas]
    #4077885 - 04/20/05 06:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Its all just sensations, do not get attached to them, i think this is an essential point of Tantra. These beings are just manifestations of your own energy, so do not get distracted by them either, attachments are the breeding ground for problems. Its good that you are getting some benefit, but be aware that these things are all temporary and will pass, if you remember this then you will get less dissapointed, frustrated and discouraged when they come to an end. There are many visions and experiences that can occur from practicing Tantra, these are just experiences, continue undistracted by them and your progress will not get blocked. Most important of all, enjoy completly without attachment, let go and life appears as just a miraculous, magical display of energy. :heart:


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: egghead1]
    #4077951 - 04/20/05 06:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"Its all just sensations, do not get attached to them, i think this is an essential point of Tantra. These beings are just manifestations of your own energy, so do not get distracted by them either, attachments are the breeding ground for problems. Its good that you are getting some benefit, but be aware that these things are all temporary and will pass, if you remember this then you will get less dissapointed, frustrated and discouraged when they come to an end. There are many visions and experiences that can occur from practicing Tantra, these are just experiences, continue undistracted by them and your progress will not get blocked. Most important of all, enjoy completly without attachment, let go and life appears as just a miraculous, magical display of energy."

So, you guarantee this to be absolute fact? Validate this in a qualitative fashion.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: Veritas]
    #4078219 - 04/20/05 07:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, well, good, loving sex can change one's complexion from pimples to glow in no time at all, not to mention the self-esteem which translates into confident body language and smooth conversation (remember the 'Billy' character in 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest')? It can also be quite the aerobic workout, isometric and isotonic exercise. One needen't cast it in supernatural terms (Oh no! I think I've caught Swami-itis!)


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4078244 - 04/20/05 07:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with this, although there are other things that can have the same effect


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: egghead1]
    #4078263 - 04/20/05 07:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Tantra IS an art of letting go and life appears as just a miraculous, magical display of energy. I thought you agreed that more then just Buddhism could take one there and that the Buddhist way wasn't the only one way?

Yes, typically , when one lets go of their individuated beingness, they experience more of their "beings".

Don't get attached to what you already are in miraculous energy Essenes? That's funny. You can't separate yourself from it save for within the creation of a delusion illusion of separation which would require self denial, self betrayal and self rejection. No thanks!

That's like saying, "Don't get to attached to your Divine self." How far do you take this detachment stuff Eggo? Tantra takes you out of the physical and brings more of spirit into it. You're either all of it, none of it or both at the same time.

The idea is not to attach your sense of self to things of the material world that will fade including your physical body. Tantra takes you beyond what is impermanent beyond the physical and into the eternal which is why it's such a blissful practice and the beingness ( state of beings present) comes alive. You can have orgasmic tantric sex without even touching physical bodies because of this. It all happens in the co mingling of the subtle energy bodies and the joy of realizing the unity that always has been.

Since when is divine Essenes temporary and does divine Essenes Pass?

We in the physical may temporarily experience it and those blissful experiences come and go (pass) but IT is always present and there to be realized eternally.

If they are manifestations of your own energy (which I agree for the most part from the big perspective) then it is all you. How can you not be attached to what is of yourself?

What are you talking about?

The beings who help me are all the facets of me in broader states of know how awareness then I can yet be in this limited form. We all have them as there is a lot more to who we are then we are aware of when just in ego.

When I let go of the physical me through what would be tantric like states I become aware of more of my self in subtle essences and energy bodies that is not a part of the limited ego creation of the physical reality and physical body.

What is it you think becoming aware of your multidimensionality means?

I fully understand not getting attached to material things and titles, but spirit Essenes and energy is what we are. trying to detach yourself from that will hurt like hell. That's how hell is created and why it's a place of suffering.

Maybe it's just the way you word stuff Eggo. I know Buddhism doesn't teach itself as the only way to realizing the bliss we are. I realize now that its you that believes it's the only right way. If it's the right way for you great. Not everyone resonates with it or has had the same negative experiences you have exploring the self via other means.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4078659 - 04/20/05 09:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Are you writing "Essenes" but meaning 'essence?" Essenes were a vegetarian, celibate Jewish 1st century sect.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4078680 - 04/20/05 09:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

When one has hit the point of philosophising about sex in supernatural terms it is way past time for the said individual to get laid.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4078695 - 04/20/05 09:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4078723 - 04/20/05 10:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The spell checker does that and I don't check the spell checker. Yes, I mean to type essence. Thanks Markos. I read a book a ways back called The Way Of The Essenes". I loved it. What a group!

Hue Hue. Just physical 5 sensory sex can be amazing. Add the subtle bodies to it and the extra sensory percpetors and well Love and its speachless to describe. It's really just the difference between physical emotionally detached sex and what making love is like. It's not over complicated. If you have "made love" then you know the difference and by your age being married I'm sure you have and do.
Then again, you mentioned some aspergers and I'm not sure how that would come into play to effect it if at all. I don't expect you to share your sex life here Hue :wink:

Like with any experience in life is god, if you know how to heighten it, you make it even better. Love makes everything better. :heart:


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4078775 - 04/20/05 10:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"It's really just the difference between physical emotionally detached sex and what making love is like."

I understand the difference. I think I am doing all right in that area...I got 20 years of marriage behind me and my wife is still putting up with my egotistical bullshit...I must be doing something right.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4078796 - 04/20/05 10:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

He He. You are lovable too! I actually read some guy here in a post a way back saying that he didn't know the difference and that there wasn't one and it was just sex. He did it like he was braggin about not knowing the difference too. It was sad and funny at the same time.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4078839 - 04/20/05 10:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I read it. That is unfortunately the view of many men...particularly the young guys....I used to be one.


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4078908 - 04/20/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Michael Jackson practices Tantra...


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Re: Tantric Spiritual Experience [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4078923 - 04/20/05 10:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

One needen't cast it in supernatural terms (Oh no! I think I've caught Swami-itis!)

HEY! Don't be working my side of the street.  :mad2:


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