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Offlineegghead1
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Happiness?
    #4040936 - 04/11/05 02:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ironically, the more we grasp at this thing called happiness, the more we chase after it, the more certain it is that it will escape us. We have misinterpreted, misunderstood both the cause and the nature of happiness, and then we have compounded the error by looking for the happiness in the wrong place, in the world, rather than within the mind! Our efforts are doomed to failure from the very first.

Happiness lies not in the ability to satisfy our every desire, but rather in the ability to refrain from reacting compulsively to every craving and prodding of the mind. It is the ability to observe the mind dispassionately, to allow anything to manifest without our "buying into it," without becoming enslaved by it.

There is little that can be done about what occurs to us through external circumstances. That is old, conditioned stuff surfacing. We need do nothing, except to observe carefully its arising and its passing away. We do, however, need to be very careful about how we react to it. That reaction, that mental, emotional, and volitional response, creates our conditioning for the future.

The clear awareness of our feelings toward the arisen object or thought, unaccompanied by an automatic, self-interested, reflex reaction based in greed or aversion, begins to weaken the kammic bonds that hold us to continual misery. And practiced regularly, it provides insight into the workings of nature and of the mind. This insight, this understanding of the impermanence, ultimate unsatisfactoriness, and selfless nature of all conditioned phenomena quickly breaks the kammic chains and leads to liberation from suffering. It is the very core of the Buddha's Teachings.


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All you need is Love! Really thats it! Infinite Unconditional Love! Just develop that and all else will fall into place perfectly!


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Re: Happiness? [Re: egghead1]
    #4044616 - 04/12/05 08:50 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

bump..... :heart:


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Re: Happiness? [Re: egghead1]
    #4044815 - 04/12/05 10:44 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i like it, makes sence.


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"I traveled a long way seeking God, but when I finally gave up and turned back, there He was, within me! O Lalli! Now why do you wander like a beggar? Make some effort, and He will grant you a vision of Himself in the form of bliss in your heart." -the saint of the Kashmir Shaivism tradition: Lalli.


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Re: Happiness? [Re: JCoke]
    #4044943 - 04/12/05 11:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I always find ways to be happy, in every 10 cubic meters of the universe there are a number of "triggers" that you can use to be happy.
In case you can't find them, you can use your mind to make something else. Your mind is like the oposite of black holes, it is only thing that we know of that radiates reality out. It is a dream machine, you can make anything you want with it. Imagination is the limit.

There is always reason to be happy


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Re: Happiness? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4046083 - 04/12/05 03:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes but im not speaking of fleeting pleasure, im talking about brining about certain changes to enable permenant happiness to manifest within our mindstream. Than you are happy without a reason, always. :heart:


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Re: Happiness? [Re: egghead1]
    #4046116 - 04/12/05 03:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Happy without a reason? It is called a "lobotomy".


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Re: Happiness? [Re: Swami]
    #4046120 - 04/12/05 03:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

OMG thats the funniest thing ive read all day. Thanks Swami  :grin:


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Re: Happiness? [Re: egghead1]
    #4046455 - 04/12/05 04:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

But happyness always comes from within, not out, it's just that people aren't aware of that


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Re: Happiness? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4046572 - 04/12/05 05:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Not when you talk about playing with chemicals :grin:.

I'm sure I can give something to everyone that'll make them happy as hell, despite their definition, albeit a shortlived happiness. :smile:


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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Re: Happiness? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4046584 - 04/12/05 05:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

*Yawn*

Deny yourself the "without" (food, affection, shelter, clothes, car, computer, money, job, friends, herb) and honestly say you could be happy.


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Re: Happiness? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4046609 - 04/12/05 05:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

who is happy, who got happy, and who made you happy! :wink:


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Re: Happiness? [Re: Gomp]
    #4046659 - 04/12/05 05:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

/hopes he doesn't say god.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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Re: Happiness? [Re: Gomp]
    #4046691 - 04/12/05 05:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

and who, is you!


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Re: Happiness? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4046820 - 04/12/05 06:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
But happyness always comes from within, not out, it's just that people aren't aware of that




Thats exactly what i mean.

And Swami, yes im sure many happy monks would attest to that fact.


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Re: Happiness? [Re: egghead1]
    #4047064 - 04/12/05 07:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, there are thousands of starving, asphyxiating, freezing, alienated & happy monks. :rolleyes:


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Re: Happiness? [Re: Swami]
    #4047091 - 04/12/05 07:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Have you met any? I can state categorically that 9/10 Buddhist monks that Ive met have been very happy and contented people. They aren't any of those things you said, they are often looked after very well by their monastery and the local people who support their practice. Please refrain from commenting on something you know little about firsthand.


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Re: Happiness? [Re: egghead1]
    #4047105 - 04/12/05 07:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

they are often looked after very well by their monastery

EGGS-ACTLY! Their EXTERNAL physical needs are met. So what is the point? How does that demonstrate that happiness is within?


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Re: Happiness? [Re: Swami]
    #4047109 - 04/12/05 07:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

We all need to eat, sleep and shit to maintain our physical bodies swami.  Those things are nessasery whilst we are still alive!  Go talk to some monks and then you can make some educated commentry. :rolleyes:


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Re: Happiness? [Re: Swami]
    #4047392 - 04/12/05 09:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Swami, deny me all that, not just me but others, and with the right mind attitude in one year or half of year we will be happy as we were before

p.s. I don't use a car or herbs by the way


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine


Edited by OldWoodSpecter (04/12/05 09:09 PM)


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Re: Happiness? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4048456 - 04/13/05 02:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Why are the proponents of certain philosophies ALWAYS takling about others or what might b or what should be or what could be, but yet do not LIVE what they preach RIGHT NOW?


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