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Preperation of LSD
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A few years back, I came across the actual steps of preparing LSD from ergot, and I was wondering if anyone had this info. As a college student with a few friends that are very intelligent, aspiring chemists/chem engineers, and also interested in the expansion of their consciousness, this seems like an interesting challenge. Also, I could expand myself to another field of study than electronics.

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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I heard it is very dangerous , the ergot fungus can eat your flesh away or something. Deffinatly be careful if you choose to cultivate ergot


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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Here is the TIKAL entry, but seriously, the precursors and other chemicals needed are watched very closely. You really need to know the right people in order to get them all.


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gdman]
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I have not heard of the flesh eating property of ergot, but I do know that it is poisoness if ingested. It has been the cause of mass poisonings since the Middle Ages. (We're talking thousands and thousands of people here.)

I have done research on this, but I am looking for a document I found about 4 years ago on the internet that explains a step by step process for making it. It was definetly not bullshit because it was like 5 pages long and explained all the processes and why you do them. But it has since dissapeared from the web.

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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The exact words may not have been flesh eating , but I do remember reading somewhere it is dangerous and requires caution.

You may be talking about rhodium , it went down but is still available here. http://rhodium.moppy.net/www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/index.html


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: MaJikFungus]
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It's not "flesh eating"....however, I know where you got that from; ergot causes ergot poisoning, or ergotism....also known as St. Anthonys Fire. There are two types of this, the convulsive and the gangreneous (sp?). Both have the same symptoms, but the latter one causes gangrene as well....which kills your body parts, hence flesh-eating.


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: Dark_Star]
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Lsd comes from a flesh eating fungus :thumbup: :thumbup: :satansmoking:


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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Im pretty sure most chemicals that are used to make LSD are on the watch list for the DEA. But if you do get this down, Make millions of blotters and send them to the south east.


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: Stonerguy]
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Even if they are on the watch list, Most complex chemicals are just derivations of simpler, common chemicals. But this would be time consuming. But since I am moving around alot, it might be easier to avoid the DEA. Especially with my college dorm box. Accidentally order it to the wrong box, talk to the real owner and tell them about the mishap, then I'm in the free. The DEA can only do so much, they aren't that intelligent.

If I did get this down, I wouldn't go into business with it, sorry. Just for fun and the ability to make absolutly pure LSD.

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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I heard it may be "safer" to obtain chems from canada since the DEA doesnt monitor them.


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: MaJikFungus]
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That it is a good idea. I think I will try that.

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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carefull of customs

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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Do you really think posting your intentions to manufacture the most hated chemical in america on a public forum is such a good idea?


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I have considered such matters.

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: Cherk]
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Also, even if you do have the knowledge, where are you goin to get the $30,000-$50,000 to set up the lab?


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: DepthToTheCore]
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Have the chems sent to a safe address , much like you would with cannabis seeds. My dad doesnt mind that I have mine sent to his address.

I know you want to do it just to see if you can , but it seems like a lot of trouble when you could just cultivate a few cakes of PC. I have a facination with psychoactive fungus and plants. My next project is cultivating peyote , which takes like 5 years because it is one of the slowest growing plants in the world. In the wild , a little button only a few inches accross could be 10 yeard old!


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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If you feel you're qualified and have the will and the resources to synthesize the stuff, do not post about it on the internet.

Good luck on your project. You will be blessed if you accomplish it :smile:

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: MaJikFungus]
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Your kidding right? Don't you think canada has some kind of treaty with the us?


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: MaJikFungus]
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haha cultivating peyote. not much of a project, you just get a clone and wait no? lol watering i guess.
growing shit is fun though i must say

to gargeug
really, it would not be worth it to produce lsd just to see that you could. at that point you may as well distribute some to at least account for the costs.
there is some advanced equipment you will need, and having connections with chemists would be useful, but if they only have access to the stuff at their university (if they have graduated or not), it would not really be enough. there are people in those circles with the know-how to do it, but i am pretty sure it is a highly involved process, not just something to do for fun

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: holio1]
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To MajikFumgus: I have begun making shrooms, and I am in the process of cultivating peyote right now. As I am in the midwest, buttons are hard to come by, so I started it from seed and it is doing good. One warning to you, don't use grow lights. I have found natural sunlight is the best. Grow lights give them too much light and they begin to get brown and fall over. Even though it takes a long time, It will grow eventually, and it will be pretty rewarding to eat the fruits of something you have had for 5 years.

About the LSD, I am not talking about doing it now. I don't have the time or resources. I want the info in order to do it in the future, when I have the time to mess around with it. I have seen the process and it is extremely involved. But, if I have the info and the resources, it is possible. This school I am at has very advanced chemistry labs, and all studying chemists have access to the labs, especially when they are working closely with a professor. Who knows, maybe it will happen, one day.

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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I don't think you're going to be able to use your school's lab to make LSD. You'll have to have access to a private lab where you can be by yourself for long periods of time, no one around. There are probably plenty of people out there who could make it, but you need connections. If you don't know the right, you won't be making it. You say the DEA isn't that smart, don't be confident. They don't give a crap about people ordering spores to a drop box, or MJ seeds. But if they find LSD precursors, you can bet they'll set up an investigation and try and hunt you down. You're in an entirely different ball game - no, different planet - when you compare the rinky-dink stuff that you're doing now, to be making LSD. I'm not trying to discourage you.

If you ever do accomplish your dream, I wish you the best of luck, we need more chemists out there.


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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Eh, you're most likely right. Oh Well, maybe one day way down the road, I'll just keep messing with my norm.

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: theocean06]
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:thumbup:


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: Dark_Star]
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I can't believe what I have just read. You should take some advice from
esin or Smoker For Peace...
good luck with your project :thumbdown:

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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one of my life's ambitions is to synth my own acid. first i have to get rich, buy a lab, find the chems, call up my PhD chemist friend and get going. probably will never happen, but i can dream.


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"Gently return to the simple physical sensation of the breath. Then do it again, and again, and again. Somewhere in this process, you will come face-to-face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Your mind is a shrieking, gibbering madhouse on wheels." - ven. henepola gunaratana

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: alsey]
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Take a flight to Vietnam and you are set.


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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you too?

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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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Oh no, not me.  I assume you are asking if that's where I'm at.  No sir.  However, if you ask if I "know", then yes.

I worked with a guy who had family there.  I would periodically ask him if they lived near "it".  he he.  Even if he would have said yes, I wouldn't have gone through with it.

Trying to get "ET home" is a risky business.

I'm willing to drive 500 miles to hook up 10 doses, but there's no way I'd go near any deal involving ET.  Leave that for the alien pros.

Speaking of driving and being willing to do damned near ANYTHING!!! - where is my guiding light?  Ho hum...  I know...we wait and wait and wait...  :smile:


Again, I must insist that these brainiacs get their acts together and start laying sheets like they're making beds for the merry maids.


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: gargeug]
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Synthesizing LSD is not too hard, provided you got the chems to make it happen. To oversimplify a procedure while staying true to it:

1..Dissolve Lysergic acid into Acetonitrile and slam it into the fridge
2..Pour in trifluoroacetic anhydride and wait
3..Pour in diethylamine base and wait
4..Allow to warm to room temperature in the dark
5..Evaporate the Acetonitrile
6..It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time.

This produces a powder which consists of 1 mols Lysergic acid + 2 mols Diethylamine trifluoroacetate salt. Yields will be high as it's an old procedure used in protein sequencing.

So you see, the lab part is not hard if you got the right stuff, both in your lab (which may indeed be a kitchen) and in your brain.(which cannot be a kitchen) The thing is that the precursors are HIGHLY watched. Nay I can top that: This THREAD is watched because certain words were uttered on a blacklisted site like this one. If a real person is alerted to this thread then those who said they want to synth LSD will be put on a special list.
Paranoid? Echelon!

Knowledge is allowed until this day (april 2005) and most kinds of discussion too. Discussing RL plans to synth LSD is not, the Gov't is scared shitless by LSD and not entirely without good reasons.
I do not want to live in a one mile proximity of a kitchen where a bunch of chem students are cooking up a batch of LSD. No sir!

Take the ET often required for instance: On the black market it often is CUT with stuff to bulk it up. That can lead to runaway reactions. Some LSD synths use high explosive carcinogens in quantity. Said Acetonitrile is a highly toxic irritant volatile flammable explosive hazard. Trifluoroacetic anhydride is a highly toxic volatile corrosive irritant. And all those things that go WHUMPP! in the night surround huge quantities of the most potent psychedelic of all time.

The reaction itself is not hard, but you gotta know how to handle hazmat, in a lab equipped to handle hazmat, located and built such that should mishap occur the subsequent disaster will be contained before it occurs.

Making LSD isn't harder than making any delicate organic amide, but if it goes wrong you often either end up with a splash or a mist that is very dangerous in many ways and it may be accompanied by a blazing inferno or even a fierce explosion.

Bottom line: It is NOT for us mere mortals to fiddle with. Either you dedicate your life to it and STFU for safety's sake or you give information, alert to risks and daydream in a public place such as the Internet :wink:


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Re: Preperation of LSD [Re: Asante]
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ahhhhh good old canada :wink: haha just playing.. but anyway- where does ergot grow?

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