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Syrian Rue
    #3960694 - 03/23/05 06:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I am thinking about getting some syrian rue and taking it with mushrooms. I am going to order the 10x extract from iamshaman. Anyway I hear that syrian rue sometimes causes nausia so some people say you should extract. My question is, is the 10x extract from iamshaman just extracted harmala or would I still have to do an extraction to get just harmala?


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Re: Syrian Rue [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3964251 - 03/24/05 12:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

a) prolly not supposed to link to actual sources...

b) a "10x" peganum harmala extract is prolly ~ 30% harmine & harmaline (prolly HCl salts?) ...

math & $$ lesson...
if 1 pound of syrian rue seeds cost $35 & salt & vinegar cost another $5, & the yield from 454 grams ground seeds is 5% of a fairly pure (better than 90% pure if you're careful& lucky) mix of harmine & harmaline HCl salts, the resultant 20 grams cost (not counting labor & heating/cooling expenses) about $2/gram...

buy bulk & extract your own...

(besides, caapi vine is better; & the manske/hasenfratz extraction will work on caapi vine as well as on rue seed...)


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Re: Syrian Rue [Re: gnrm23]
    #3967848 - 03/25/05 10:07 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

How would I go about extracting Syrian Rue?


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Re: Syrian Rue [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3967967 - 03/25/05 11:09 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ok i do not know the best ways and have not researched it much, but boiling rue seeds in water got enough out for me.
if you are sure of dosage: be careful with it. if you want a trip of a bit more 'strength' (although very different in some ways) than that of 3.5g of just mushrooms, i recommend you take 3g of the syrian rue make tea and then eat around 2 or 2.5g of mushrooms.


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Re: Syrian Rue [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3971584 - 03/26/05 08:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well, if you can't UTFSE...

soak ground seeds (in a blender) (or crushed, or even whole i guess...) in white vinegar...
strain/filter & save liquid & maybe add fresh vinegar (or just some distilled water for the second rinse is OK)...
simmer down to a managable volume, filter through paper towel (coffee filter OK but tends to clog)...
add maybe 100 gm NaCl per liter liquid, & allow to cool to room temp, then put in fridge for a day or two...
a bunch of solids will form (mush, needles, precipitate, glop, whatever)
decant the liquid & gather the solids - these are crude crystals of harmine & harmaline hydrochloride...
there may be some "other stuff" in there - miscellaneous other alkaloids, some salt, odd acetates of something or other - but it could be 90% or better pure, and is easily "cleaned up" & can be converted to freebase form by dissolving the crystals in warm dH2O & adding ammonia soln until ppt ceases...
(if ya just wanted FB ya could prolly just add ammonia soln directly to the well-filtered vinegar extract & gather the ppt...)
GOOGLSEARCH (or SHROOMERY SEARCH):
manske hasenfratz harmine extraction
it is in many many places on the internet, mmmmmmmmmmkay?
sheesh...
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Re: Syrian Rue [Re: gnrm23]
    #3974651 - 03/27/05 01:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I extracted 40 gms Rue via manske and ended up with 1 gm of powder that was OK, but nearly as effective as 3 gms seeds orally would have been :confused: Whole seeds can be used?

Then tried Everclear and ended up with orange goo and powder, haven't tried yet; yields seems more effective.

So non-iodized salt is not necessary?

Will kitchen ammonia be safe to use, any ratios to suggest?

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