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Is coir really necessary?
    #3805817 - 02/20/05 04:48 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

...The casing layer is supposed to be hydrating but nutrient-free, no? So why do we bother with coir? I made two 100% verm little casings today.... do you guys think it'll work? I got pics, but not too interesting yet...

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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: Boffsun]
    #3805841 - 02/20/05 05:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yeah it works , u see it will feed off the spawn , and u can use shagum moss or co co coir


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: liveby]
    #3805847 - 02/20/05 05:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

also try compairing results froma straw log grow to normal pf cake grows !


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: liveby]
    #3805966 - 02/20/05 07:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah it works , u see it will feed off the spawn , and u can use shagum moss or co co coir




What do you mean it will feed off the spawn?


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: bixo]
    #3805979 - 02/20/05 07:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'd kinda like to know what the fuck he meant also.


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3805983 - 02/20/05 07:48 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

and where do i get shagum moss? lol


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: bixo]
    #3805986 - 02/20/05 07:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nurserys, maybe lowes or home depot though too. I got a square yard of it at a nursery where i live for like 6 bucks.


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3805989 - 02/20/05 07:50 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i know i know, i was laughing at how he spelled it.. shagum :doggystyle:


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: bixo]
    #3805998 - 02/20/05 08:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i see......obviously i wasn't paying attention


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: Boffsun]
    #3806300 - 02/20/05 12:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Boffsun said:
...The casing layer is supposed to be hydrating but nutrient-free, no? So why do we bother with coir? I made two 100% verm little casings today.... do you guys think it'll work? I got pics, but not too interesting yet...

Thanks

Boffsun




Sure verm works but it lacks an optimum microclimate so yields are directly affected. Coir or peat based casings have a superior transpiration over verm alone along with a better surface structure. Bottom line verm works but if you want to take it up a notch then go with a recommended mix such as 70/30 coir/verm or 50/50+ peat/verm. GL


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: Boffsun]
    #3806308 - 02/20/05 12:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I find that casing mixtures with a high amount of coir tent to overlay easier than mixtures without or only with a small amount.
Thus I never use more than 30% coir and the main ingredient is peat or peat based potting soil.


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: Anno]
    #3806378 - 02/20/05 12:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Isn't Jiffy soil mix about 50/50 peat/verm with a pH stabilizer?

It would be a lot easier just to pick up a bag of that for a couple bucks and use it.


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Re: Is coir really necessary? [Re: hyphae]
    #3806582 - 02/20/05 02:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Boffsun said:
...The casing layer is supposed to be hydrating but nutrient-free, no? So why do we bother with coir? I made two 100% verm little casings today.... do you guys think it'll work? I got pics, but not too interesting yet...

Thanks

Boffsun




Sure verm works but it lacks an optimum microclimate so yields are directly affected. Coir or peat based casings have a superior transpiration over verm alone along with a better surface structure. Bottom line verm works but if you want to take it up a notch then go with a recommended mix such as 70/30 coir/verm or 50/50+ peat/verm. GL




perfect that the type of explanation i was looking for... thanks a lot. I let these babies fruit up and see what happens, then maybe in the meantime i'll be able to find some coir so i can try next with that too! thanks a lot...

and tis jiffy mix.... is that right? it sounds pretty simple adn perfect, so why don't people talk about it all the time?

Boffsun


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