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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: agar]
    #11050521 - 09/13/09 03:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

just out of curiosity has anyone tried just coir with coffee? and when you mix in the mycelium, do you layer it. first your mycelium then the coir, or would that be more like using it as a casing layer? im so sorry if this comes through badly but im a newbie and im battling to understand all the lingo, or would you mix the mycelium with the coffee, and how relivant is growing on agar first to choose a single strain, apposed to just using a multispore? can anyone help with some knowlage?


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: Blue Helix]
    #15063800 - 09/12/11 02:28 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I wanted to use peat moss to bulk some crushed BRF cakes. But got flamed in the text chat... I ended up going with 50/50 coir/verm mix.

Yes I know. Not a casing but is indeed a bulk. Just wanted to share the power of coir. Can't wait to try this experiment myself!

Here is the tray!


Didn't come out to bad. Just don't want people thinking coir is an inferior substrate. But thanks to this thread, definitely proven an inferior casing.

Good job mang! :thumbup:


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: Blue Helix]
    #18968089 - 10/12/13 09:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Very thankful for reading this one.  Now I will not go looking for coir when I got peat. Thanx Again..
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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: Dr.Deathcap]
    #18968102 - 10/12/13 09:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Peat is good for casing layers, coir is good for bulk substrates.

Simple.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: PussyFart]
    #18968407 - 10/12/13 10:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Dr.Deathcap said:
Very thankful for reading this one.  Now I will not go looking for coir when I got peat. Thanx Again..
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Nice first post bumping a ten year old thread. ....


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Peat is good for casing layers, coir is good for bulk substrates.

Simple.




Hey NaH, I don't know if you knew this but you can tell how old the thread is under the title of the post.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: tbagtag]
    #18968410 - 10/12/13 10:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

That was the first thing I looked at actually.

Still replied.

What does that tell ya?


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: PussyFart]
    #18968446 - 10/12/13 11:02 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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That was the first thing I looked at actually.

Still replied.

What does that tell ya?




That you like old things. Stay away from my granny NaH.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: tbagtag]
    #18968500 - 10/12/13 11:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

:heytheresexy:


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: PussyFart]
    #22701530 - 12/26/15 09:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Peat is good for casing layers, coir is good for bulk substrates.

Simple.




I find the subject interesting and I am sorry to bring back this old thread.
Why is peat not as good for bulk substrates? What's the science behind this choice?

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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss (my take + next batch) [Re: Gregol]
    #23893331 - 12/04/16 07:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Wow this is a good thread. Plz don't respond telling me it's 11 years old.  I'm bumping because this should be read by everyone on here. Been thinking a lot on these exact ideas and was going to do a similar experiment then find this in depth analysis of the exact ideas.

I'm birthing my next batch of grains to cvg and covering in a 1/4 inch layer of pure cvg. Will let colonize till 90% low fae high humidity and light 12/12.  Casing with 50/50+ peat verm 1/2-5/8 inch at 90% colonized substrate. After one day will increase fae, introduce fruiting conditions.  All this will be done in my Martha. Reason for 1/4 layer of cvg is to not have any exposed grains while colonizing the bulk cvg. At no point will I cover with tinfoil or anything just keep fae low in Martha. RR said something about that and I agree. I think casing late means by the time contams hit the casing layer will be further down the road of flushes. RR said something about the mycelium being very aggressive while colonizing the cvg so once casing is applied I feel fruiting the following day will be the best time. The bottom of casing while get colonized very quickly and having a juicy water reservoir for fruiting sounds ideal.  The cvg thickness will be about 4 1/2 inches before casing.

I will use spitballs cvg tek to prepare cvg. Casing will be 50/50 peat verm add at 10% of peat calcium carbonate, 10% gypsum 5% crushed oyster shell. Fruiting incubating and casing will all have the same temperature since the substrate temp soars during colonizing I've noticed.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss (my take + next batch) [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23893383 - 12/04/16 07:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

You still bumped an fuck old thread then jacked with your grow. Why couldnt you just start a thread instead of dragging old stuff up


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss (my take + next batch) [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23893455 - 12/04/16 08:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I think the answer to your question is in the first two sentences of my post


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss (my take + next batch) [Re: Chitihurrishrooms]
    #23893499 - 12/04/16 08:22 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

It is generally frowned upon to bump old threads regardless of the posters opinion on it, kind of a courtesy thing I guess.  You could have started your own thread and linked to the old info, your balls would be less busted.
I am pretty sure there is updated information on this type of fruiting tek all over the boards as I have read many posts about it in my lurking days.
Good luck with it.
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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss (my take + next batch) [Re: Chitihurrishrooms] * 1
    #23893521 - 12/04/16 08:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

:racethread:

are you growing cubes?? they dont need a casing layer. skip the step if ya want.
i just mix up my bulk n grains and add a thin top layer and done. cvg only. just a mono tub. my last 2 tubs are fruiting at spawning.

try that instead. save time and effort.

4.5inch deep tray in a martha seems too deep. the few times i did a GH/marta
i used thinner trays and got decent results. whats your current grow like? pics?


^^^^^^^^
this is why you should of started your own thread. so we can discuss YOUR grow
and not confuse someone trying to read about coco vs peat ....from the bush era.


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