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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #8054894 - 02/22/08 12:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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preschooler said:
i think your coir is an alternate source. the poo compost or straw would be ur primary source. sometimes its hard to understand other peoples techniques...but to each his own.. once i saw a poo/straw flush i never went back to anything else ... it was just so much more and the shrooms were anywhere from 6 to 10 inches tall and just massive flushes... way more than i could handle

every time i see these coffee post its like a forign language... i think that its good as far as recycling and shit.... but neccessary or bigger.. better than what we were already doing... no in my opinion.... also i think newbs should learn the basics first then experiment with mycology....




lmao i get those size shrooms on my cakes .. wait for the tub pix .. then we shall see how this noob gets down .. 3 days till then .. get ur goggles ready


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #8055465 - 02/22/08 08:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

goggles on!!!:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #8056035 - 02/22/08 11:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yup, the only reason im using coir right now is because my stockpile of horse manure is frozen solid.

but look at this thread. this is oatman spawing straight to coir with NO additives whatsoever
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5909750/page/0/fpart/2/vc/1


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: blood4blood]
    #8056054 - 02/22/08 11:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think you guys are infecting me... im gonna try it:stoned:


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #8056505 - 02/22/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Anyone who thinks that coir isn't a suitable substrate should see the links in my sig. It's good supplemented with coffee, and even better supplemented with 5% store-bought composted chicken manure. People have gotten better results than I have as well.

I have had decent luck with it just by itself uncased, but I recommend supplementing it with a nitrogen source and casing with 50/50+ for best results.

Coir should colonize by itself just fine. It might not produce wondrous yields, but if it's not colonizing, it's not the coir's fault. Improper hydration (coir being overly wet) is my first thought.

COIR IS NOT AN OPTIMAL SUBSTRATE. But it can produce flushes that are good enough. One grow with 12 quarts total spawn/sub gave me more than I could consume in 9 months, and I usually trip twice a week.
(EDIT: And I should mention, I gave away 3 oz. of it.)


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: doc34]
    #8056956 - 02/22/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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im getting good results substituting coir for straw in hpoo and adding coffee and verm ..




You have Horse poo & coffee & verm = Food & Speed(:tongue:) & Water
and you get big shrooms:grin:


The food was there before you added the coir.

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Nothing.
But.
Coir.





What was your spawn composed of?




Plain 'ol wbs.

You people over-think things too much.

You don't need to build a Ferrari to go to the store when you live next door... walk-- keep it simple.

Don't over-think it.


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: coAsTal]
    #8056973 - 02/22/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Coir rules!!!! no additives just coir




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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #8059021 - 02/23/08 01:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Sillicybin said:
Anyone who thinks that coir isn't a suitable substrate should see the links in my sig. It's good supplemented with coffee, and even better supplemented with 5% store-bought composted chicken manure. People have gotten better results than I have as well.

I have had decent luck with it just by itself uncased, but I recommend supplementing it with a nitrogen source and casing with 50/50+ for best results.

Coir should colonize by itself just fine. It might not produce wondrous yields, but if it's not colonizing, it's not the coir's fault. Improper hydration (coir being overly wet) is my first thought.

COIR IS NOT AN OPTIMAL SUBSTRATE. But it can produce flushes that are good enough. One grow with 12 quarts total spawn/sub gave me more than I could consume in 9 months, and I usually trip twice a week.
(EDIT: And I should mention, I gave away 3 oz. of it.)




I suspect mine is either too wet or too dry, considering how slow and rhizomorphic the growth is. Any way to dry it out if it turns out to be too wet?


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: ozzyozzyozzy]
    #8059085 - 02/23/08 01:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Lots of fresh air will help dry it out some. "Slow" and "rhyzomorphic" don't usually go together.


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: FooMan]
    #8059094 - 02/23/08 01:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Look at the picture posted on the first page. That's the progress in a small tub after a fortnight or so.


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Re: Straight coco coir - inferior substrate? [Re: ozzyozzyozzy]
    #8059104 - 02/23/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Did you try my suggestion from the 2nd page of the thread?


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