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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: RogerRabbit]
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I did & you are correct.

Slight amount of coir in a verm/peat casing is like CAC'ing & works well, without overlay setting in.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: agar]
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Cool post. No matter what you do, keep it simple. Mushrooms grow in the swamp floor which is covered with moss, so it would make sense that they would grow better in moss, and not in whatever the fuck cococoir is. Shit i live in a swamp, i should just go out and gather some stuff off the floor of it and use that as a casing mixture.

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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: Abermelin]
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What strain is that if you dont mind my asking?


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: agar]
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"Hydrate mix to field capacity (70/75%) before nuking."

70/75% is that the temp? How many min with mike? I do 5min with coir and put lime in after wards is Peat the same way or put lime in b4 mikey?


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
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If coco coir is kown to create overlay due to it acitng as a substrate to the mycelium then what about changing the ratio around from 60:40 verm coir to 80:20?


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: ke1n]
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Read this POST.
It may give you some insight.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: agar]
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I'm curious, since coir has nutritive properties, has anyone tried using it as a substrate?
IE. An additive in a bulk substrate?


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: DrAbominable]
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Yes, it works as an additive. Especialy well, with weathered h/poo.

And/or, with straight rye, or wbs/grains & some Verm.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: agar]
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But even though the coir has nutrients wouldn't Sterilizing the mix eliminate them?

Although, RR said "Another point is not to sterilize peat or coir in a pressure cooker. Part of what helps initiate pinning is bacteria in the casing layer. If you sterilize it, you lose this feature. Best to pasteurize only."

Although Ryche Hawk says "There has been a lot of discussion on whether it's better to sterilize the casing soil or not. In my friend's studies, he has found that sterilizing is better. Some people like to pasteurize it. That's OK, but he prefers to sterilize it."

I JUST finished sterilizing some 50/50+ in the pressure cooker for about 90 mins. Ive got substrate that needs to be cased tomorrow. Should I use this, or mix up another batch pasteurized and let my substrate go another day?


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: rockytop83]
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Either way works. Try both & see what works better for you.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: rockytop83]
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rockytop83 said:
But even though the coir has nutrients wouldn't Sterilizing the mix eliminate them?


BlueHelix said "The casing is roughly split equally between a pH-balanced vermiculite/peat and vermiculite/coir mixture. Both casings were sterilized using a pressure cooker."


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: rockytop83]
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can u use a ph down/up solution thats normally used for hydro systems with the green. I dunno where anywhere around where i live seels crushed coral...?

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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: shroomr4life]
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Blue Helix and ATWAR,
That has been my experience with coir as well. Just don't attempt to share the results of your research on the 'other' board. You'll get slammed for spreading disinformation...lol http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=7336
RR


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Edited by RogerRabbit (02/27/06 09:04 PM)

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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: RogerRabbit]
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Quote:
shroom4life said:
can u use a ph down/up solution thats normally used for hydro systems with the green



For pH up, calcium carbonate is best, but I've used calcium hydroxide (hydrated lime) and also sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) in solution.

For pH down, I use pure ascorbic acid (vitamin C) in solution.

Sometimes, pH down solutions contain nitrogen which can be bad for casings.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: RogerRabbit]
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RogerRabbit said:
Blue Helix and ATWAR,
That has been my experience with coir as well. Just don't attempt to share the results of your research on the 'other' board. You'll get slammed for spreading disinformation...lol http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=7336
RR



Wbs/grain spawn @ 25% rate to a coir substrate.
(no casing cover)


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: agar]
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Nice pic agar. Personally, I rate coir somewhere between cow and horse manure as a substrate. When used as a casing material however, it just seems to colonize fully, which in my opinion is more like adding another half inch or so of substrate. It certainly doesn't hurt though, as the more varied the nutrient source, the better the results. I've seen some very nice flushes from trays with a top layer of coir.
RR


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: RogerRabbit]
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My experience:
using 30% coir, 30% peat, 30% vermiculite and 10% Calcium carbonate as a casing mixture does a good job.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: Anno]
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Good post in 29-30 days this post is two years old w00t.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: RogerRabbit]
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RogerRabbit said:
Blue Helix and ATWAR,
That has been my experience with coir as well. Just don't attempt to share the results of your research on the 'other' board. You'll get slammed for spreading disinformation...lol http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=7336
RR


you got 'slammed', as you put it,
for exaggerating, rodger.

you stated that
there was little difference
between using coir casing
or using no casing at all-
except casing with coir took two extra weeks and
made it harder to water,
in essence portraying a coir casing
as worse than nothing at all.


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Re: 50/50 Coco Coir versus 50/50 Peat Moss [Re: onetime]
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Im sure its due to my own fault somehow, but never have i had a casing get contaminated before the first flush when using peat, when using coir, i never get a first flush before green kills it. Definitly a good water holder, i belive i still have some bricks layin around and maybe ill give a go at adding them to the substrate layer, but as for the casing, that shit isnt allowed near it.


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