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I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters.
    #3364404 - 11/15/04 04:24 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I've heard about counsellors being hired at schools and colleges for those emotionally traumatized by the election outcome. Take this story for for instance, sounds more like a way to get out of going to work.

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A post-therapy John Kerry supporter spoke out about her trauma treatment for the first time this weekend, saying Florida psychologist Douglas Schooler took her from the depths of despair over President Bush?s victory to a new lease on life.
Forty-four year old Karen of Boca Raton, a divorced mother of one who didn?t want her last name in print, called the trauma specialist?s intensive election therapy ?profoundly effective? and described his hypnosis technique as ?a healing process.?
?I wasn?t sleeping,? Karen told the Boca Raton News in an interview. ?I was very devastated and very astonished that people would re-elect this president. I was moody about the war and economic issues. I felt very unsettled and fearful. I thought, ?Oh no, what will happen for four years???
Karen, whose medical insurance covers the treatment, said she approached Schooler last week after finding herself unable to function publicly due to President Bush?s re-election.
?Dr. Schooler absolutely understood the pain this election caused me and he opened my mind to a new point of view,? Karen said. ?You?re relaxed, he talks to you and you just come out of it feeling more positive and renewed. It took one session. He did some relaxation techniques and probably did some things I didn?t even realize.?
A Schooler client for seven years, dating back to her divorce, Karen said the doctor helped her realize it had been unhealthy for her to expect Kerry to win.
?If I?d had time, I would have volunteered for Kerry, but I work full-time,? Karen said. ?I was so invested emotionally, watching the debates, and was very disturbed whenever I heard a Marine has been killed. I thought Bush?s actions were war crimes. But I?m sleeping again since the therapy and have felt better ever since. I don?t know what will happen now, but I?m going to take it day by day and see what happens.?
The Boca Raton News reported last week that more than 45 South Florida Kerry supporters sought psychological help after the Democratic candidate conceded to Bush on Nov. 3.
That number, including 20 patients treated by Schooler, had risen to more than 50 by the weekend.
?One woman I treated the other day said the election triggered other issues in her life,? Schooler said. ?Stuff she had been working on for a long time became worse. That?s pretty common in trauma cases: A small thing like an election triggers longstanding mental problems.?
In addition to Schooler?s one-shot hypnotherapy, more than 30 people have called the non-profit American Health Association at 561-361-9091 to sign up for free support group therapy.
Executive Director Rob Gordon said Friday that AHA?s first election support group is scheduled for after Thanksgiving. The Boca-based charity, which has more than 500 professional and non-professional volunteers in Palm Beach and Broward counties, is offering the free sessions through the end of the year.
?I?ve been talking to people and coaching them on the phone,? Gordon said. ?Most are older than 50 and their mental issues stem from the 2000 election.?
Gordon said no one outside Florida had contacted AHA about treatment for the new form of trauma, which his organization has dubbed Post Election Selection Trauma (PEST).
?These unresolved issues from four years ago seem worst in Palm Beach County because this is where the pregnant chad scandal happened,? he said. ?People here still think Bush was appointed, not elected. But I?m sure psychologists in California and maybe New York are also organizing group therapy sessions.?
Since the Boca News broke the election therapy story on Monday, Gordon said he had been flooded by calls from Republicans who don?t take the trauma seriously. However, he said he received a phone call Friday afternoon from FOX News commentator Bill O?Reilly and expects to defend his diagnosis on The O?Reilly Factor next week.
A psychologist at the Boca-based Center for Group Counseling, whose spokeswoman last Monday was referring depressed Kerry voters to the Democratic National Committee, said he thinks AHA and Schooler are unethically using the Kerry supporters? misery for self-promotion.
?The word ?trauma? is overused and I haven?t seen Kerry voters traumatized according to the existing definition,? said William A. Weitz, adult program manager. ?Certainly we?ve had people discussing their responses to the election at regular support group meetings, but the idea you would use hypnosis on them doesn?t make sense to me.?
Boca Mayor Steven L. Abrams, a Republican, said post-election therapy is ?more of the same? in a city where people already spend tens of thousands of dollars a pop on plastic surgeons, beauticians and matchmakers.
?I do think it?s silly,? Abrams said.
?I also think these front-page conspiracy theories are silly. People are saying the election was fixed in Democratic counties that voted for Bush. But these are, like, the rural Democratic counties that have consistently cast tons of votes for Republican presidential candidates. That?s why they call them ?Dixiecrats.? One of the counties is literally Dixie County.?





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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Stein]
    #3364431 - 11/15/04 04:30 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Politics=the new religion. What sad people.


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Stein]
    #3364809 - 11/15/04 05:47 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Bush thinks he's being guided by god. Maybe you should start wondering about that.


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Stein]
    #3364885 - 11/15/04 06:05 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I can't really think of events more important than politics to be traumatised by, other than perhaps an unexpected personal tragedy.. As a predictable, daily process, what matters more? Every freedom, enjoyment and pretty much anything else you hold as important is predicated on politics. Why is it strange to be traumatised by such a major event?


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: OJK]
    #3364998 - 11/15/04 06:36 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

I think they were born traumatized (or traumatized when they were born).


Edited by Great_Satan (11/15/04 06:37 PM)


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3365043 - 11/15/04 06:49 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

JohnyOnTheSpot: repeating an old strawman line over and over doesn't make it true. Without using your amazing psychic ability to read somebodies mind, could you give me any evidence that Bush thinks God is telling him directly what to do?

Odiumjunkie, the problem about being invested in politics is that few political beliefs have anything to do with reality. Ironically, people seem to get the most attached to most outlandish beliefs.


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Stein]
    #3365159 - 11/15/04 07:11 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

This is just amazing. You would think that if an election affected you that deeply, you would simply emmigrate to a country whose majority agreed with your opinion. I mean, that's why so many people immigrate to America. Airfare isn't extremely expensive and you could still visit relatives etc...I know i would do it if my emotions were that extreme. However, i could have tolerated Kerry and there is a lot i would be willing to tolerate before it came to that.


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Catalysis]
    #3365227 - 11/15/04 07:19 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)



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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3365405 - 11/15/04 07:43 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

A reporter asked bush how he would lead this country and Bush said, "I'm not leading america...god is leading America, through me."

Another reporter asked Bush if he consulted with his father before the Iraq invasion and Bush replied, "No, I spoke with a higher power."

Then at one point he gave a speech were he reffered to the war on terror and the iraq war as a crusade he must win.

I saw him say those things on TV.

I found a couple more on the net for you though.

"I believe God has called us into action."

and this one

"God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East."


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Stein]
    #3365451 - 11/15/04 07:51 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

I think anyone who strongly backs "Democratic" or "Republican" is an misinformed or brainwashed moron.


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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: Stein]
    #3365595 - 11/15/04 08:10 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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Stein said:
I've heard about counsellors being hired at schools and colleges for those emotionally traumatized by the election outcome. Take this story for for instance, sounds more like a way to get out of going to work.

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A post-therapy John Kerry supporter spoke out about her trauma treatment for the first time this weekend, saying Florida psychologist Douglas Schooler took her from the depths of despair over President Bush?s victory to a new lease on life.
Forty-four year old Karen of Boca Raton, a divorced mother of one who didn?t want her last name in print, called the trauma specialist?s intensive election therapy ?profoundly effective? and described his hypnosis technique as ?a healing process.?
?I wasn?t sleeping,? Karen told the Boca Raton News in an interview. ?I was very devastated and very astonished that people would re-elect this president. I was moody about the war and economic issues. I felt very unsettled and fearful. I thought, ?Oh no, what will happen for four years???
Karen, whose medical insurance covers the treatment, said she approached Schooler last week after finding herself unable to function publicly due to President Bush?s re-election.
?Dr. Schooler absolutely understood the pain this election caused me and he opened my mind to a new point of view,? Karen said. ?You?re relaxed, he talks to you and you just come out of it feeling more positive and renewed. It took one session. He did some relaxation techniques and probably did some things I didn?t even realize.?
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Therapists get arrested for shit like this
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A Schooler client for seven years, dating back to her divorce, Karen said the doctor helped her realize it had been unhealthy for her to expect Kerry to win.
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This is so priceless, it puts me on the floor
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?If I?d had time, I would have volunteered for Kerry, but I work full-time,?
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She has a job. This is the biggest surprise in the whole thing
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Karen said. ?I was so invested emotionally, watching the debates, and was very disturbed whenever I heard a Marine has been killed. I thought Bush?s actions were war crimes. But I?m sleeping again since the therapy and have felt better ever since. I don?t know what will happen now, but I?m going to take it day by day and see what happens.?
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I wonder how this moron reacted to the 3,000 dead in lower Manhattan
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The Boca Raton News reported last week that more than 45 South Florida Kerry supporters sought psychological help after the Democratic candidate conceded to Bush on Nov. 3.
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They probably should've sought help for supporting qerry
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That number, including 20 patients treated by Schooler, had risen to more than 50 by the weekend.
?One woman I treated the other day said the election triggered other issues in her life,? Schooler said. ?Stuff she had been working on for a long time became worse. That?s pretty common in trauma cases: A small thing like an election triggers longstanding mental problems.?
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hmmmm, "other issues", "working on for a long time". These are buzzwords in the pseudo-nutlog community for cashcow
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In addition to Schooler?s one-shot hypnotherapy,
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I thought she had been "working for a long time" on her issues. Couple this with the previous "things I didn't realize" and one can only surmise the "one shot" meant a "pearl necklace".
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more than 30 people have called the non-profit American Health Association at 561-361-9091 to sign up for free support group therapy.
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Actually, only 30 nutlogs on one opportunity for undeserved sympathy is pretty low. Good on yer Palm Beach
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Executive Director Rob Gordon said Friday that AHA?s first election support group is scheduled for after Thanksgiving. The Boca-based charity, which has more than 500 professional and non-professional volunteers in Palm Beach and Broward counties, is offering the free sessions through the end of the year.
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That's a good ratio. 500 counselors for 30 nutlogs. Maybe they can gang-therapy them
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?I?ve been talking to people and coaching them on the phone,? Gordon said. ?Most are older than 50 and their mental issues stem from the 2000 election.?
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Can you say Alzheimer's
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Gordon said no one outside Florida had contacted AHA about treatment for the new form of trauma, which his organization has dubbed Post Election Selection Trauma (PEST).
?These unresolved issues from four years ago seem worst in Palm Beach County because this is where the pregnant chad scandal happened,? he said. ?People here still think Bush was appointed, not elected. But I?m sure psychologists in California and maybe New York are also organizing group therapy sessions.?
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People there still can't figure out how to do what a first grader anywhere else can. Not even Californians are whining that they couldn't figure out how to vote
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Since the Boca News broke the election therapy story on Monday, Gordon said he had been flooded by calls from Republicans who don?t take the trauma seriously. However, he said he received a phone call Friday afternoon from FOX News commentator Bill O?Reilly and expects to defend his diagnosis on The O?Reilly Factor next week.
A psychologist at the Boca-based Center for Group Counseling, whose spokeswoman last Monday was referring depressed Kerry voters to the Democratic National Committee,
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Yeah, let those jerkoffs deal with it Bwahahahaha
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said he thinks AHA and Schooler are unethically using the Kerry supporters? misery for self-promotion.
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NO WAY. An unethical shrink taking advantage of moonbat proclivities???? Say it aint so.
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?The word ?trauma? is overused and I haven?t seen Kerry voters traumatized according to the existing definition,? said William A. Weitz, adult program manager. ?Certainly we?ve had people discussing their responses to the election at regular support group meetings, but the idea you would use hypnosis on them doesn?t make sense to me.?
Boca Mayor Steven L. Abrams, a Republican, said post-election therapy is ?more of the same? in a city where people already spend tens of thousands of dollars a pop on plastic surgeons, beauticians and matchmakers.
?I do think it?s silly,? Abrams said.
?I also think these front-page conspiracy theories are silly. People are saying the election was fixed in Democratic counties that voted for Bush. But these are, like, the rural Democratic counties that have consistently cast tons of votes for Republican presidential candidates. That?s why they call them ?Dixiecrats.? One of the counties is literally Dixie County.?








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Re: I question the mental stability of the left...especially the hardcore kerry supporters. [Re: barfightlard]
    #3365604 - 11/15/04 08:12 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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bellylard said:
I think anyone who strongly backs "Democratic" or "Republican" is an misinformed or brainwashed moron.




I agree, the best way to go is to continue fiscal conservatism and attempt to be more liberal (yet logical) on social issues. Whats funny is that i think the democrats could achieve this the easiest but as it stands now, i would never vote democrat.


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