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Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party
    #1432329 - 04/05/03 10:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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"What we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States."

Democratic Sen John Kerry, accusing U.S. President George Bush of alienating allies around the world with the war in Iraq




I know we've all heard it, but nothing good came of it. Many are discusted with the democratic party's comments on this war and as more and more truths about this war come forth it will further the demise of the democratic party.

Just one example: The democrats tried to scare people in saying that 250,000 soldiers will die in this war. Thus far, 2 weeks mind you, minimal casualties have been taken and the war is nearing it's end. Democrats said this would be another Vietnam. Vietnam lasted 10 years and only 55,000 soldiers were lost. Where do they come up with 250,000? Whats with the scare tactics dumbocrats? Your tactics aren't working and your party is falling.

Mind you it all doesn't revolve around Kerry's comments, it's a conglomeration of all the paraniods.


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432335 - 04/05/03 10:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Ya, like the Republicans haven't been wrong before...

Weren't they saying that all the Iraqi troops would be surrendering on site and not putting up a fight?


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432340 - 04/05/03 10:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

now that's just silly.


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432343 - 04/05/03 10:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hold on, I forgot to add a couple these so I don't get banned  :smile: :laugh: :smile: :laugh: :laugh: :grin:


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432382 - 04/05/03 10:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

In this current political climate each party is making egregious errors.  This was unwise of the Democrats and will be used agaisnt them in the upcoming elections.

What are they trying to do?  Help President Bush get re-elected?  :confused:

They need to go back to the ol' stratagem of Herr Klinton and respond to the polls which show that most Americans favor this stuff.  If Kerry is bidding for election he is losing ground on this score.

And btw, there will be no chicanery this coming presidential election.  The votes will be electronic.  No more pulling chads out of anyone's ass. :smile:


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432431 - 04/05/03 11:05 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Just one example: The democrats tried to scare people in saying that 250,000 soldiers will die in this war. Thus far, 2 weeks mind you, minimal casualties have been taken and the war is nearing it's end. Democrats said this would be another Vietnam. Vietnam lasted 10 years and only 55,000 soldiers were lost. Where do they come up with 250,000? Whats with the scare tactics dumbocrats? Your tactics aren't working and your party is falling.



No, the dems never said it would be a blood bath like that. I think you're thinking of cable tv pundits. Lol.


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: silversoul7]
    #1432436 - 04/05/03 11:08 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Weren't they saying that all the Iraqi troops would be surrendering on site and not putting up a fight?




they've been putting up a fight?


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1432452 - 04/05/03 11:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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No, the dems never said it would be a blood bath like that. I think you're thinking of cable tv pundits. Lol. 




There's a difference?

:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432473 - 04/05/03 11:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Actually, it's the ballsiest thing a politician has done in this country in a very long time. But then again Kerry is a decorated (Silver Star, one short of the Congressional Medal of Honor) combat veteran.

Let's tally up the combat medals of the asswipes who are in charge shall we?

Bush: saved his sorry ass in the National Guard, to which he didn't even show up half the time.
Cheney: Had better things to do
Rumself: Was born at precisely the right time to just miss Korea and be too old for Vietnam. No combat experience.
Rice: Ugly as a war zone, but no, she hasn't seen combat either.

Grand total: Zero medals, zero combat experience.

All of them a bunch of asswipes who are happy to let 18 year olds die so they can play toy soldier.

I'm not worried about 2004. No amount of success in Iraq will save Bush's sorry ass when it comes to the economy, and he'll find out just like his dad did that that is the bottom line.


Edited by EchoVortex (04/05/03 11:26 PM)


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1432480 - 04/05/03 11:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

There's a difference between being ballsy and just being a prick. I think he sealed his own fate when he opened his mouth during a time when he should of just shut it.

Be honest here, does anyone actually think he has a snowballs chance in hell in winning?


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1432491 - 04/05/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Kerry is an unamerican piece of shit that wants to take away our 2nd amendment. This statement is one of the only things he's said I really agree with but he's still a worthless fucktard. He's not winning any points with me by criticizing Bush, but he's shrewdly trying to win the liberal core that he needs to swing a primary vote. My $0.02.


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1432505 - 04/05/03 11:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Grand total: Zero medals, zero combat experience.





What about Colin Powell?

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I'm not worried about 2004. No amount of success in Iraq will save Bush's sorry ass when it comes to the economy, and he'll find out just like his dad did that that is the bottom line.




I'm not sure, the circumstances were much different in the 92 elections. For one, there wasn't broad blind patriotism fueling the country. But I hope you are right.


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432518 - 04/05/03 11:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Just one example: The democrats tried to scare people in saying that 250,000 soldiers will die in this war. Thus far, 2 weeks mind you, minimal casualties have been taken and the war is nearing it's end. Democrats said this would be another Vietnam. Vietnam lasted 10 years and only 55,000 soldiers were lost. Where do they come up with 250,000?




Where did you come up with that info?


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1432519 - 04/05/03 11:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, real ballsy. Just about as ballsy as Hillary! half clapping at President Bush's speech to the Joint Session of Congress after her state was attacked on 9/11.

And just as "ballsy" as her husband Herr Klinton vetoed partial birth abortion when the majority of America wanted it banned.

Ballsy is another euphemism for stupid.

Tell ya what. Put your money where your mouth is. I wager you any reasonable sum that Bush Jr. is re-elected.

Put up or shut up.

What's it gonna be?

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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1432646 - 04/06/03 12:51 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

"We Nothing to Fear but Fear Itself" - FDR


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: Skikid16]
    #1432649 - 04/06/03 12:54 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Colin Powell, the "patriot" who rose to fame fetching water and then denying My Lai. Too bad the truth did finally come out, regardless of his attempt to suppress it. He never saw combat in fact, if you look up exactly what he got his 3 medals for, they were:

Stepping on a punji stick ( non combat related)
Rescuing 2 people from a downed chopper (noncombat related-- they really should develop a chopper that can stay up in the air, shouldnt they?)

As for Kerry, I think that this was an incredibly smart move, especially being a democrat in a republican lite party. There are many democrats that have become frustrated by the fact that their party no longer stands for anything but being a lapdog to the whims of the current administration and if he does win the nomination, he will get some serious vote backing from the democratic constituents of this nation. Especially as the economy continues to nose dive due to this war. Money has a hell of a way of making people wake up and take a stand.

Besides, what does he have to lose? Either he gets a presidential nomination and a very good shot at the whitehouse, or he stays a senator-- Mass is a very democratic state, always has been. Atleast he spoke his conscience and many seem to think he is doing a fantastic job fielding the insults from the repub party as well as the whole, shut up you unamerican sentiment. This man actually served in combat for this country unlike any of the current chickenhawks of this administation, to question his patriotism is not only absurb but just shows how low people who sit in glass houses will go.


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: ]
    #1432657 - 04/06/03 12:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Also, Mr Mushroom.. where are your statistics for half of america wanting a ban on Partial Birth Abortions?

I simply do not believe that is true as everyone knows that is just a foot in to try to ban abortion, period. Not to mention the fact that half of america thinks partial birth abortion means saying, "Wait I dont want this baby" after the head pops out and then chopping it off with a machete. Instead of what it is, which is largely a medical practice used to save the lives of mothers and terminate nonviable fetuses as well as those that have been diagnosed with genetic maladies such as down syndrome which cannot be diagnosed prior to the 30th week of pregnancy due to the tests available. All consentual medical abortions on viable foetuses must be carried out prior to the 13th week.


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1432658 - 04/06/03 01:02 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You want stats, look 'em up.  I know more about abortion they you will ever know.  :smirk:


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: ]
    #1432661 - 04/06/03 01:04 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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You want stats, look 'em up.  I know more about abortion they you will ever know.  :smirk: 



That statement seems pretty arrogant and presumptuous.  Tell me what makes you such an expert on the issue?


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Re: Sen John Kerry statement=Fall of the democratic party [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1432664 - 04/06/03 01:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Also, Mr Mushroom.. where are your statistics for half of america wanting a ban on Partial Birth Abortions?



73 percent of American support a ban on "Partial Birth Abortion."

I like your nick, btw.


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