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Is Reality Relitive?
    #3267110 - 10/23/04 07:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok this is probably more a play on words, but it sounds interesting. Came up with it in that contimplative afterglow of mushies.

Ok if time is relitive, for me, you, him, her, whoever, then our sence of time doesnt really exist. There is no set time. Well what if REALITY was relitive. My reality, like my time, is slightly different than yours, or his, or hers. There is no set reality.

So we all have a different reality, probably someting you already know, but still interesting. So many setient beings occupying the same small planet, fully encased in our own delusions of what should be, could be, needs to be. All thinking we have the same time and reality because thats the only reason most have to wake up in the morning. Other than to feed the macheine and fall deeper into the never ending spiral of what we have phrased society.

Yea im a little depressed and twisted, name me someone who isnt just a little. I still cant get passed what we would do as a society if we found all the answers to our questions. What would life mean then.

Baaaaaa, im rambling ok stop typing, and post damn it.  :grin: :mushroom2:

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Re: Is Reality Relitive? [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #3267534 - 10/23/04 01:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


Yea im a little depressed and twisted, name me someone who isnt just a little. I still cant get passed what we would do as a society if we found all the answers to our questions. What would life mean then. 

  :grin: the meaning is the meaning?

Illusion is relitive. reality is (darkness?) :P



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Re: Is Reality Relitive? [Re: Gomp]
    #3267557 - 10/23/04 01:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I always thought that reality was relative. :wink:

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Re: Is Reality Relitive? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3267908 - 10/23/04 03:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Reality is what we perceive relative to what others percieve. Reality as we know it is only a set of agreements we make between ourselves.

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Re: Is Reality Relitive? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #3268118 - 10/23/04 04:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

To be, is to be in relation to other beings. We are all connected. This connectedness is what saves us from radical relativism even though we all perceive the world in our own private way.

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Re: Is Reality Relitive? [Re: shroomydan]
    #3268332 - 10/23/04 05:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Is Reality Relative?
Well, I sure as heck think so (This comes from a philosophy undergaduate that enjoys mushies and has put in tons of thought, time, and reading into this subject for his thesis.)

Cultures from all sorts of times or places have base thier communities thoughts on thought as relative with the attempt to find a balance. Try to describe heat without using numbers or metaphors. (What does really hot or medium or any description) Thier is no way to describe it without relating it to our past experiences (such as snow, a hot day or the temperature of a human).

Heat is not the only relative thing everything is, it is a balance of two concepts; one of an ideal which is 'being' (heat, thereness, love), and its antithesis of not being (or any oppisate) such as (coldness, not thereness, and disdain/hate). Think of the heat example, we know what is their is what humans realtively think of as really hot or really cold, any attempt to explain how warm something is is made possible by the other two. This, I think, is how humans can understand many things.

Many cultures throughout history have based thier metaphysical thinking and thierfore thier whole communities around this idea. The chinese concept of the yin and yang is that of essence and negation, a constantly flowing balace of natuure. (The symbol is a fluid movement of 2 oppisotes flowing, with the seed of the one imbedded inthe heart of the other). The south/pan american sorcerrers such as Castanedas' Don Juan Matus beleived humans had to realize the infinite in preforming thier actions. ( I think this means to find ones balance or place in it.) The classic greeks believed in virtues and vices that rule humans, the only way to act morally is to find your balance. (This was so engraned in thier lives that the notion of wealth was having all that you needed, no more no less). It is also prevelant in western thought whether you look at humes empiricism or the classic heaven/hell model in aquines's christianity.
This concept of oppisotes is perhaps most interestingly applied by a western thinker by the name of Hegel. He beleived that any human event was known through a thesis antithesis behavior, with the result being the synthesis. (One contemporaty example of this could be the tension of westernism in the middle east. People try to remove it so try to remove the west. The west builds pressure with its armies, the middle east builds pressure with terrorists. This build up is essential for an answer to a conflict to appear, and eventually the synthesis will appear. This synthesis will be a new thesis and build up a new resisitance or antithesis to create a new synthesis). This proccess unfolds through history. Marx used this model in his writings.

(Anyone who has a good argument against this 'relative dialectic' please, I would like to hear it.)

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