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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: gww]
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gww said:
This is how hitler handled defeat.
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The Ultimate Order: The "Nero Decree" (March 19, 1945)


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Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat, he ordered the military to implement a total scorched-earth policy. Every factory, railway, bridge, farm, and utility line in Germany was to be systematically blown up to leave nothing for the Allies



thats a common military tactic in war when retreating.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat


That's not common for servants of the People.  I didn't hold my breath missing you knowing this is the kind of dribble you serve up.  It is a good take if you are actually jim jones.

Edited by gww (11/10/26 06:12 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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AlChemicalResearch said:
gww said:
This is how hitler handled defeat.
Quote:
The Ultimate Order: The "Nero Decree" (March 19, 1945)


Quote:
Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat, he ordered the military to implement a total scorched-earth policy. Every factory, railway, bridge, farm, and utility line in Germany was to be systematically blown up to leave nothing for the Allies



thats a common military tactic in war when retreating.


Historically it's not actually that common though it has been applied here and there.  Napoleon's invasion of Russia comes to mind.  It takes tremendous will and discipline to raze your own homeland rather than simply negotiate an end to hostilities, which is what has almost always typically been done.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: ballsalsa]
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There is a bit of a difference.  Where was Germany going to retreat to?  I mean, it is not like they had a strong hold to retreat to.  Even Napoleon could pull back from places he had taken over.  The context is out of place to the situation.  Hitler was saying the people deserved destruction cause they had not been strong enough and then he killed himself.  That definatly sounds more like jim jones then it does Vlad the Impaler.  My opinion.  He got his wish sort of as there was a giant wave of German populace suicide with impending defeat.  The jews strong hold taken over by the romans might be pretty close.

Edited by gww (11/10/26 08:19 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
AlChemicalResearch said:
gww said:
This is how hitler handled defeat.
Quote:
The Ultimate Order: The "Nero Decree" (March 19, 1945)


Quote:
Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat, he ordered the military to implement a total scorched-earth policy. Every factory, railway, bridge, farm, and utility line in Germany was to be systematically blown up to leave nothing for the Allies



thats a common military tactic in war when retreating.


Historically it's not actually that common though it has been applied here and there.  Napoleon's invasion of Russia comes to mind.  It takes tremendous will and discipline to raze your own homeland rather than simply negotiate an end to hostilities, which is what has almost always typically been done.


Russia literally did it earlier in that same war
The Celts did it when Rome invaded northern Europe
The arabs did it when the Mongols invaded Iraq

I'm not even a history buff and I can name 3 times it occurred.

I feel like its Russia's go to move.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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Uh, yeah, I know the Russians did it.  That's why I brought up that example?

Your point is actually my point.  You can name a handful of examples but there have been thousands and thousands of wars.  There was a plan in place to do something similar, by steps, toward the end of WWI but the German high command chickened out because they (probably correctly) assumed that the allied forces would eventually grind to a total victory anyway.

A more limited version of the strategy, tiered defense exploiting interior lines, has been employed many times throughout history as an inducement to negotiate by making the nut too hard to reasonably crack

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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I've noticed that the "both sides" comments ramping up already.  the same tired stupid shit.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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It’s cope.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: christopera]
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No cope just reality.  Both sides are stepping up as the death of the executive branch is apoun us. Already the Trump administration had trouble filling roles with congress in their control.  In 2 months there won't likely be any confirmed and more impeached and convicted out of office.

Keep rules in cabinets really run this country without those potential issues being decided by a leadership role, Trump gets final say. Not the best outcome.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
It’s cope.


its part of an information warfare strategy aided by useful idiots that parrot the "prevailing" talking points.

in other news, remember the diesel deal trump made with russia?  now that the midterms are over and republicans lost, the last of those ships that were on their way to the USA has turned around.

so we send russia some money and lifted some sanctions and got what?

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs] * 2
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dinosaurs said:
koods said:
A DOJ lawyer informed a federal judge they were deporting people to Iran.

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"I'm sorry, I just want to make sure I understand this correctly," Judge Reyes said. "We are going to remove people in our custody to a country with which we are at war?"

"We are at war with a country, where the president of the United States has said as recently as two or three days ago, if not yesterday, that it is essentially lawless ... and what you're telling me is that the United States of America is going to send individuals back to that region facing what you and I and everyone who would ever look at this would know would be at a minimum a serious threat of certain death?" Reyes said.


The government said Yes



reminder that almost down to the last one of them, republicans would tell you the one thing trump has done right is immigration.


That Hispanic vote swung 45 points in Texas, mainly due to immigration policy. Turns out even Hispanics born here don’t like seeing their friends and family being deported


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Uh, yeah, I know the Russians did it.  That's why I brought up that example?

Your point is actually my point.  You can name a handful of examples but there have been thousands and thousands of wars.  There was a plan in place to do something similar, by steps, toward the end of WWI but the German high command chickened out because they (probably correctly) assumed that the allied forces would eventually grind to a total victory anyway.

A more limited version of the strategy, tiered defense exploiting interior lines, has been employed many times throughout history as an inducement to negotiate by making the nut too hard to reasonably crack


I mean the tactic is literally called scorched earth tactics. I'm sure if I spent some time doing some research I could find it being using in over 25% of wars that have happened on this planet.

When I mentioned Russia, sorry, I guess I wasn't being specific enough. Russia has basically done it every time they have been invaded, not just with Napoleon. Almost every single time.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 2
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25%?

Lol, not even close, bubba.  Sure, in a very limited sense resource denial is common.  We're talking about razing your own farms, towns and cities.  These concepts are only superficially similar.  I will grant that Russia has historically had a particular disregard for its citizens and willingness to endure losses and defeats that would typically lead to capitulation.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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So that is what russia did around two years ago when ukraine took some territory?  Hum?

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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AlChemicalResearch said:
I mean the tactic is literally called scorched earth tactics. I'm sure if I spent some time doing some research I could find it being using in over 25% of wars that have happened on this planet.


:laugh2:

Really shootin from the hip with this one!

:freewilly:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: gww] * 4
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Democrat Scott Colom has finally been declared the winner of the Mississippi senate race by 4000 votes.


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Edited by koods (11/11/26 06:48 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods] * 2
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Lol

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
I've noticed that the "both sides" comments ramping up already.  the same tired stupid shit.


Because Dems are already SHOWING THEIR ASS...

Here comes Mamdani and AOC endorsing the likes of Hakeem fucking Jeffries!
:evilpuke:

The Democratic party seems to think Schumer is the right man for senate leadership :laugh2:

What a fucking JOKE. We live in stupid fucking times, and it's not over with yet.


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Edited by Bigbadwooof (11/11/26 06:53 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Democrat Scott Colom has finally been declared the winner of the Mississippi senate race by 4000 votes.


Nice.

Thats a wider margin than I expected, even if it is really close! He had the best campaign add of the year :lol:

"Pick another protein? Sheeeeeiiiit, I'd rather pick another senator!" :lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
dinosaurs said:
I've noticed that the "both sides" comments ramping up already.  the same tired stupid shit.


Because Dems are already SHOWING THEIR ASS...

Here comes Mamdani and AOC endorsing the likes of Hakeem fucking Jeffries!
:evilpuke:

The Democratic party seems to think Schumer is the right man for senate leadership :laugh2:

What a fucking JOKE. We live in stupid fucking times, and it's not over with yet.


the ones showing their ass are the people that are reeee'ing about dems not fixing shit a week after winning elections and 2 months before being sworn in.  a lot of people that lack an understanding of how the US govt works, and how politics work.

I dont have enough time or effort to correct the confidentally-incorrect assertions made here on a daily basis. 

take this joke hegseth impeachment for example.  it wouldn't have mattered how many dems showed up for that vote because the senate is still gop controlled and it would have been DOA when it hit the senate.  it's another instance of republicans performative bad-faith politics for the *express* purpose of getting dumbasses to head to the internet with "reeee both sides" shit.

nothing about the composition of the US govt has changed in the last week.  there are no more votes in either direction than there was last monday.  if hegseth was such a bad guy and impeachable (make no mistake, he is), they could have done this at any time, so why didn't they? because the goal here wasn't to remove hegseth, the goal is post-midterm show propaganda from lame-duck republicans.

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