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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: gww]
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gww said:
This is how hitler handled defeat.
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The Ultimate Order: The "Nero Decree" (March 19, 1945)


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Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat, he ordered the military to implement a total scorched-earth policy. Every factory, railway, bridge, farm, and utility line in Germany was to be systematically blown up to leave nothing for the Allies



thats a common military tactic in war when retreating.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat


That's not common for servants of the People.  I didn't hold my breath missing you knowing this is the kind of dribble you serve up.  It is a good take if you are actually jim jones.

Edited by gww (11/10/26 06:12 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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AlChemicalResearch said:
gww said:
This is how hitler handled defeat.
Quote:
The Ultimate Order: The "Nero Decree" (March 19, 1945)


Quote:
Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat, he ordered the military to implement a total scorched-earth policy. Every factory, railway, bridge, farm, and utility line in Germany was to be systematically blown up to leave nothing for the Allies



thats a common military tactic in war when retreating.


Historically it's not actually that common though it has been applied here and there.  Napoleon's invasion of Russia comes to mind.  It takes tremendous will and discipline to raze your own homeland rather than simply negotiate an end to hostilities, which is what has almost always typically been done.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: ballsalsa]
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There is a bit of a difference.  Where was Germany going to retreat to?  I mean, it is not like they had a strong hold to retreat to.  Even Napoleon could pull back from places he had taken over.  The context is out of place to the situation.  Hitler was saying the people deserved destruction cause they had not been strong enough and then he killed himself.  That definatly sounds more like jim jones then it does Vlad the Impaler.  My opinion.  He got his wish sort of as there was a giant wave of German populace suicide with impending defeat.  The jews strong hold taken over by the romans might be pretty close.

Edited by gww (11/10/26 08:19 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
AlChemicalResearch said:
gww said:
This is how hitler handled defeat.
Quote:
The Ultimate Order: The "Nero Decree" (March 19, 1945)


Quote:
Believing that the German people had proven too weak and did not deserve to survive defeat, he ordered the military to implement a total scorched-earth policy. Every factory, railway, bridge, farm, and utility line in Germany was to be systematically blown up to leave nothing for the Allies



thats a common military tactic in war when retreating.


Historically it's not actually that common though it has been applied here and there.  Napoleon's invasion of Russia comes to mind.  It takes tremendous will and discipline to raze your own homeland rather than simply negotiate an end to hostilities, which is what has almost always typically been done.


Russia literally did it earlier in that same war
The Celts did it when Rome invaded northern Europe
The arabs did it when the Mongols invaded Iraq

I'm not even a history buff and I can name 3 times it occurred.

I feel like its Russia's go to move.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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Uh, yeah, I know the Russians did it.  That's why I brought up that example?

Your point is actually my point.  You can name a handful of examples but there have been thousands and thousands of wars.  There was a plan in place to do something similar, by steps, toward the end of WWI but the German high command chickened out because they (probably correctly) assumed that the allied forces would eventually grind to a total victory anyway.

A more limited version of the strategy, tiered defense exploiting interior lines, has been employed many times throughout history as an inducement to negotiate by making the nut too hard to reasonably crack

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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I've noticed that the "both sides" comments ramping up already.  the same tired stupid shit.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: dinosaurs]
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It’s cope.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: christopera]
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No cope just reality.  Both sides are stepping up as the death of the executive branch is apoun us. Already the Trump administration had trouble filling roles with congress in their control.  In 2 months there won't likely be any confirmed and more impeached and convicted out of office.

Keep rules in cabinets really run this country without those potential issues being decided by a leadership role, Trump gets final say. Not the best outcome.


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