Lo-Z said:

koma23 said:

Kloakk said:

Then I would do a floating lotus, which is filling the tub with just enough water to make the cake float and leave it for 12 hours, if the water is gone repeat until no more water is soaked up and pour it out

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A floating lotus you say huh

I'll talk to my gf about that one XD

Btw, None of the tubs have shrunk, I think they still have moisture, it's just the surface that's the issue. I might see now why your interventions were going in the way of rehydrating ...

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floating Lotus seems crazy until you do it and then all the surface beads come back and round 2 starts.

I'm with Kloakk on this one. Punish it or fork it. Floating lotus to recharge the water reserves, my added 2 cents would be to add a pseudo casing of coir to restart the surface after you punish/ fork and soak.. its essentially a restart button. Dial back the FAE a little bit to make sure your re-soak promotes naturally occurring surface beads then slowly add the FAE back in. It looks a little dry from the photo.

I've had some lions mane in buckets be stalled for about 3 weeks now with dry surfaces. I stuck them in a large modified tub with hydrated perlite and in 2 days they started fruiting. Mushrooms love water, moisture, and humidity.

It may just 'look like a bad surface' but what is the colony doing?

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Can't really do that, sub hasn't shrunk a mm, it's stuck to the walls. I mean I could put my hand on the surface and turn it upside down to get the sub out and if I was to fork/punish it it wouldn't matter if I damaged the surface with my hand but imo the sub doesn't need rehydrating it's just the surface that's fucked. tnx I'm just gonna let it ride, it's pinning, wont be the best flush no, but I'll punish it and hopefully get a better second : D ...

ReverendMyc said:

Seems a little strange. I use jars with and without trivet all the time in my 8qt IP. Never had a jar break. Do you have enough water in the pot? You aren't running dry, are you? I don't mind water touching the bottoms of the jars or even more, but too little water could lead to fast heating or overheating if it runs dry.


I run Ball brand quarts and pints, cheap Chinese 1/4 pints, and even Ikea cookie jars that are not meant to be heated at all, and never had a crack. This probably doesn't help much, but it make me think that something isn't right.

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koma23 said:

Kloakk said:

koma23 said:

This looks like it completely hydrophobic though ...

Tnx fellas. So no votes for casing huh?

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Agree and that's why you want to either punish it or scrape the matted mycelium off and then submerge over night.

I don't think slapping a casing on top of a matted mycelium surface will hydrate the cake much.

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I agree yeah, but it would provide better surface conditions ...┐⁠(∵)⁠┌

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Friend from what I read no matter the amount u mist it doesn't retain moistur?
Sounds like your

A opening it to often and removing humidity which in turn pulls moisture from the tub

B need to adjust your fae as it's dropping to often and to much.

A casing might help idk about a full forking though u could punish it THOUGH I personally think you need to work on dialing in the environment you're working with as to prevent humidity loss and moisture

Bobgas said:

I think I have mycelium that no matter what refuses to fruit.  I’ve tried with both grain and pf tek.  It fully colonized fine, but when birthed, after it totally colonized the cake / tub, it just never fruited.

Is this a thing?

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Lo-Z said:

Blopblop said:

What’s up People? Quick question: any recommendations for a PH meter?

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I got this one from a local hardware store (Amazon Link)


It worked pretty good for me when making a casing for Pans. You take a sample of the substrate. add water to make it kind of muddy/ soupy and stick it in there and it tells you on a digital screen

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pilzezuechter said:

is there a difference in pressed coir or coir which comes already a bit fluffy.

im asking cause buying bulk it’s a lot cheaper here to get the fluffy stuff. it’s said to be sterile in the bag. it wouldn’t anymore obviously once i open it. what are your thoughts?

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langten69 said:

When did you 2nd shake?

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Tweeq said:

pilzezuechter said:

is there a difference in pressed coir or coir which comes already a bit fluffy.

im asking cause buying bulk it’s a lot cheaper here to get the fluffy stuff. it’s said to be sterile in the bag. it wouldn’t anymore obviously once i open it. what are your thoughts?

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People use pre hydrated coir. I would just try it out. If it doesn't work for mushrooms at least you have a base for making your own potting soil. You'd have to find out if the moisture content is already good or if it needs any extra water or verm. Coir is coir. The blocks are far from clean too btw. I find leaves, bits of plastic and other debris in it all the time.

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Fiet said:

langten69 said:

When did you 2nd shake?

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week ago ore 10 days

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tossed_salad said:

Anyone have issues with jars cracking?

I have an insta pot and I always use a trivet, room temperature water, let it depressurize naturally but the past few runs I've had almost half my jars get cracked.

Some were older quart jars but I also bought brand new kerr wide mouths and had half of them crack.

I can't figure out why this is happening

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