fontinalis666 said:

I confess, I sprayed a fahtlock of pink oysters with the 70% ISO bottle instead of the tap water bottle and might have fucked it up lol (I have a feeling it was probably fucked up before that though)

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I had seen many others make the same mistake, so I put water and ISO in very different bottles, and it has saved me more than once.

fontinalis666 said:

I confess, I sprayed a fahtlock of pink oysters with the 70% ISO bottle instead of the tap water bottle and might have fucked it up lol (I have a feeling it was probably fucked up before that though)

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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:

Cat is home safe and sound!





A neighbor took one our flyers, photocopyied them on his own, and was replacing any of our that got worn out or taken.

He ended up seeing her high up a tree with a giant owl close by. My wife was able to coax her down.

This is the best news I've had all week! I've been on the road most of the time and haven't really been able to do anything.

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I knew your kitty would find it's way home...

#1 what about this observation do you find particularly interesting?

I assume from context you talk on the idea that a sort of 'expanded perception' focused hobby/lifestyle as mush cult -for example- would naturally move away from typical social dynamics.
If so, I'll just say the commonality of course is that it's humans doing it, and we're gonna!


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But isn't it actually the only way to achieve real stabilization of a selection?

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are the colonies that achieve dominance on this particular medium the same ones that would show dominance directly on another type of substrate?

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So isn't replicating the same colony until senescence a bit of a waste of time?

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Yeah.

Belintaf said:

And yet here we are.

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^that's where I land with that subject

But I do sometimes share in your eyebrow raising around it.

I think integration, as a process, can change things at a behavioural level so long we hold up our end of the bargain.

I think it also became a buzzword of sorts for people trying to bring back souveiners from peak experience to disown parts of 'normal' life and remain higher than their suffering.
In such case, I offer that my experience with psychedlic borne integration that really allows space for change in me is often more like psychic scabs, strain, effort than a sort of hollywood healing where things improve merely by knowing an alternative.
Plus, most times I got an 'easy to integrate lesson', the more stubborn parts of myself have managed to make it a tool to realise their own agendas IE: reify unhelpful character traits, beliefs, opinions, habits and so on.

All that to say, I see broad examples of how myself & other people integrate their psychedelic experience and the path - shockingly- seems non linear and very fluid. The difference between compartmentalised insight you mention, and embodying it pretty much lies in the choice we make moment to moment & how habitual it becomes.
We're often working with stubborn stuff.
IMO

fontinalis666 said:

I confess, I sprayed a fahtlock of pink oysters with the 70% ISO bottle instead of the tap water bottle and might have fucked it up lol (I have a feeling it was probably fucked up before that though)

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I did it to a shoebox. Misted the hell out of it! Left it open for a few hours and it ended up doing OK.

Same thing, same bottle for iso and water; graduated to these for water misting.

Lithop said:

I think integration, as a process, can change things at a behavioural level so long we hold up our end of the bargain.

I think it also became a buzzword of sorts for people trying to bring back souveiners from peak experience to disown parts of 'normal' life and remain higher than their suffering.
In such case, I offer that my experience with psychedlic borne integration that really allows space for change in me is often more like psychic scabs, strain, effort than a sort of hollywood healing where things improve merely by knowing an alternative.
Plus, most times I got an 'easy to integrate lesson', the more stubborn parts of myself have managed to make it a tool to realise their own agendas IE: reify unhelpful character traits, beliefs, opinions, habits and so on.

All that to say, I see broad examples of how myself & other people integrate their psychedelic experience and the path - shockingly- seems non linear and very fluid. The difference between compartmentalised insight you mention, and embodying it pretty much lies in the choice we make moment to moment & how habitual it becomes.
We're often working with stubborn stuff.
IMO

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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:

Personally, I think the spiritual aspect is overstated. Sure they were used in spiritual practices in the past, but those could be easily explained by people noticing biological effects and conceptualizing them with the only framework available to them: Spirituality

All of us have Egos. All of us have trauma. IMO, they are essential survival mechanisms that have evolved over billions of years. If the village idiot says that stores of a poisonous berry will feed the tribe through the winter, survival needs someone to say "You're a fucking idiot". Ego is the primary driver behind that mechanism. Being right doesn't remove ego from the equation.

You just have to look at some of the cult discussions that have spiraled into flame wars to see that mushrooms do nothing to improve Egos when considered in a vacuum. They might open doors to explain why we react the way we do on a personal level, but the individual has to be the one to put in the work in order to transfer those lessons into real life. Even then, a moment of weakness can pull people right back into the habits they worked so hard to change.

I guess what I'm saying is that ego is hard wired into our brain and perhaps the most egocentric thing anyone can think is "I have conquered my ego". It's like saying "I have conquered my need for oxygen". It's just not possible and raises red flags in my mind just from the pure absurdity of it.

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Belintaf said:

Thanks Lithop for your response.

Exactly — humans doing it is the constant.

What I find specifically interesting is the dissonance — the tool itself, the experience, seems designed to interrupt precisely those patterns. And yet here we are. Which raises the question of whether integration actually changes anything at the behavioral level, or whether the insight stays compartmentalized.

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