ogelite said:

Hey fungi fam!

Does anyone nowadays use myc water as innoculant and how is storaging and selflife?


Mush love

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koma23 said:

Has anybody experimented using a true casing layer at spawn instead of at full colonization (for cubes)? Like instead of the pseudo casing we usually do or even on top of the pseudo casing ...

What would be the benefits and what would be the pitfalls, except possibility for contam - although with proper pasteurization ime this mix lasts a long time.

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From what I understand, Cubes simply don't need a casing like other species do. They pin even without a casing.

If you can achieve canopies without overcomplicating things — it's just not worth overcomplicating things.

Hugs

langten69 said:

I would say that the results can only be very good, thanks for the suggestion im gonna test it out. It sounds like it would need to be reapplied after the first flush and after using punish tek, if you do reapply it, I imagine you could even get more flushes with this method

Edit:now that im thinking about it, punish tek really only applies to a pseudo casing layer, so you may get more flushes without needing to do punish tek

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Belintaf said:

From what I understand, Cubes simply don't need a casing like other species do. They pin even without a casing.

If you can achieve canopies without overcomplicating things — it's just not worth overcomplicating things.

Hugs

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koma23 said:

I've never reapplied a casing layer after the first flush, always thought it was to prone to contam.

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Kloakk said:

koma23 said:

I've never reapplied a casing layer after the first flush, always thought it was to prone to contam.

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I re apply a new casing layer for the most part, I am not leaving hundreds of stumps and it would be a PITA to harvest.

For cubes I don't see any benefits at all though.

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Belintaf said:

Guys, does anyone know how long Tidal Wave usually takes to pin on average?

Hugs

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Damn, I literally just asked and the reply came through...



It's been almost exactly 14 days.

koma23 said:

Man, I'm trying to wrap my head around your answer but I'm not succeeding: ), mind re-phrasing?

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That's on me dude, good at English I am not

So what I tried to write is that I don't use a true casing for cubes because I don't see any benefits from doing so, DV8 wrote that it can be convenient if something blobs or other similar situation.

I do however use a top layer(coir) and compress for cubes when I spawn and haven't had any blobs, still get microfruits from some albino varieties though.

Why do you want to use a casing for cubes?

But I do re-case after a flush on everything that needs a true casing, like pans, paps, zaps etc, I do it because when I harvest I don't want to leave stumps behind so I prefer to rip out clusters then cutting a lot of stumps in one go and not leave them in the trays.

Because I harvest in that way a tray will look like shit and patching it back up would suck, so I just scraped the remaining casing off and apply a new one.

After harvest


Scrape


New casing and back in the tub

Kloakk said:

koma23 said:

Man, I'm trying to wrap my head around your answer but I'm not succeeding: ), mind re-phrasing?

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That's on me dude, good at English I am not

So what I tried to write is that I don't use a true casing for cubes because I don't see any benefits from doing so, DV8 wrote that it can be convenient if something blobs or other similar situation.

I do however use a top layer(coir) and compress for cubes when I spawn and haven't had any blobs, still get microfruits from some albino varieties though.

Why do you want to use a casing for cubes?

But I do re-case after a flush on everything that needs a true casing, like pans, paps, zaps etc, I do it because when I harvest I don't want to leave stumps behind so I prefer to rip out clusters then cutting a lot of stumps in one go and not leave them in the trays.

Because I harvest in that way a tray will look like shit and patching it back up would suck, so I just scraped the remaining casing off and apply a new one.

After harvest


Scrape


New casing and back in the tub

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koma23 said:

Ah I see, perfectly clear now.

Why I wanna do it? Just being curious, wanting to experiment ... See if it improves some of the not so good genetics I have in my inventory.

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Got it, and why not, shit I might try that myself next round with APE. I think I'll case after full colonization though, what's your plan

langten69 said:

I love when experiment lead to better results

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Or just different results

Kloakk said:

koma23 said:

Ah I see, perfectly clear now.

Why I wanna do it? Just being curious, wanting to experiment ... See if it improves some of the not so good genetics I have in my inventory.

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Got it, and why not, shit I might try that myself next round with APE. I think I'll case after full colonization though, what's your plan

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Haha I also just cased an APE, but I cased it at spawn. It's a particularly stubborn strain, has many pins but most end up being aborts.



This was the best flush I managed getting once (1L spawn) without a casing, just a normal top layer at spawn. One of the holes in the top pic is a clone I am working with now ...

I think I cased it once before but after 100% colonization the end result was smaller fruits.

mobyhat said:

part of wedges in agar since 09-08 (more than 25 days) - APE in the left; Toque9 in the right...what happen with this? this dont grow anymore?

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