Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | | 3873 | 3874 | 3875 | 3876 | 3877 | 3878 | 3879 | 3880 | 3881 | 3882 | 3883 | 3884 | 3885 | 3886 | 3887 | 3888 | 3889 | 3890 | 3891 | 3892 | 3893 | | Last >
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes] * 1
    #29634978 -

Yea just dont leave the spoon in the LME. Mine is mostly a brick at this point cuz I got a way huge bag of LME a while back and it's been in a ziploc. A little chip off the old block and it still works great. I use a hand blender to help dissolve it


--------------------
So anyway, uh...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: So Anyway] * 2
    #29634981 -

Yeah I'm going to have to take the spoon out and migrate it to a mason jar tomorrow :ohshitno:


--------------------
Mycology is my current hyperfixation
Uncommunicated expectations are just premeditated resentments.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mistakes]
    #29634983 -

Ok. I was super confused. Thanks for clearing that one up.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
    #29634989 -

So.. any bets on if my gar plates r clean or dirty when I get home from work I get to check xD

No growth yet so good sign ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ™


--------------------





An enigma some caerulescens n a mono ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Edited by bloodssonnew (07/29/26 12:27 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bloodssonnew]
    #29635142 -

just use a steel spoon and a .00 scale


--------------------
----<><><>----
โ‚ tail-lights, back-pockets, rearview mirrors โ‚

โ‚ guides | grows | supreme air box | sporeaddict โ‚

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
    #29635149 -

My first LME got fuuuuuucked in a plastic container. Now I store the replacement in an old glass sauce jar, with a plastic instant coffee spoon left in it, and that has been zero problems.

One tip tho, I am very careful to check the rim before sealing it up. Brush it off with dry paper towel, never wet. Nothing like letting it get in the cracks, absorb water, and caramelize. I switched to premade agar for like a year once LME storage was so annoying.

Honestly premade mix isn't even a bad deal. IDK how many plates I got out of that bag but more than enough for 20 bucks. Esp at 60mm? get outta here.


--------------------
.~`  ๐”… ๐”ž ๐”ค ๐”ข ๐”ฉ  ๐Ÿฅฏ  ๐”… ๐”ฆ ๐”ฑ ๐”ข ๐”ฐ  `~.
:salute: CAKE WARS III STARTS SEPTEMBER 1st :salute:

Edited by Rasmodius (07/29/26 01:19 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rasmodius] * 2
    #29635152 -

You can simply break it up and weight the required amount.
Light malt extract and others are highly hygroscopic; They absorb moisture from the air readily. you can keep it in an airtight jar with a food-safe desiccant packet.


--------------------
----<><><>----
โ‚ tail-lights, back-pockets, rearview mirrors โ‚

โ‚ guides | grows | supreme air box | sporeaddict โ‚

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
    #29635178 -

Anyone try josex poking smushed agar wedges? :popcorn:


--------------------





An enigma some caerulescens n a mono ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bloodssonnew] * 1
    #29635187 -



GT - second flush of this cake; in the first flush harvest 408grs; after sunk and start frutification to 2nd flush I needed to put cake in the fridge during 20 days, because hollydays and leave my home; now only have this...have to do with put the cake in the fridge to pause frutification??

Harvest the 2 mushs must bigs - 66grs! Nice!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bloodssonnew]
    #29635204 -

Use a sterile cotton swab dude. You don't want to stab the baggie it came in.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
    #29635211 -





4 days after break and shake. Any good? Thanks.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroomy Steve]
    #29635240 -

I have a question about the monotub hole design.

Why do we always do fewer or smaller holes on the high sides vs just perforating the lid?

Is there some trick to air movement that having more holes on the bottom and fewer up top that forces air to be drawn in from the bottom? Would putting more holes up top spoil that?

The reason I ask is because I'm thinking about redoing my JCM into a passive water tub like Noah's. It would help to know why we put holes where we put them.

Edit: for this thought experiment I'm taking humidity out of the equation because a warm tub of water will basically give me as much as I want. I'm really only thinking of how fresh air moves.


--------------------
I've got skills, they don't know where to use me
I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (07/29/26 06:50 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
    #29635245 -

Guys, I have a question...

Is that condensation on the cake relatively normal? Or is the substrate too wet?



All five cakes show the same condensation.

I prepared it using the classic 2:1:1 ratio. It's on its second day of consolidation. During colonization it didn't show this condensation, until it fully covered the outside.

I understand it could be due to the mycelium's metabolic activity, but honestly I'm not really clear on it.


--------------------
"Little shark in da bathtub"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
    #29635255 -

fiddle_head said:
You can simply break it up and weight the required amount.
Light malt extract and others are highly hygroscopic; They absorb moisture from the air readily. you can keep it in an airtight jar with a food-safe desiccant packet.




This. Just made agar with boulder hard lme but weighed it out. Plates are still clean. Donโ€™t be scared

PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
I have a question about the monotub hole design.

Why do we always do fewer or smaller holes on the high sides vs just perforating the lid?

Is there some trick to air movement that having more holes on the bottom and fewer up top that forces air to be drawn in from the bottom? Would putting more holes up top spoil that?

The reason I ask is because I'm thinking about redoing my JCM into a passive water tub like Noah's. It would help to know why we put holes where we put them.

Edit: for this thought experiment I'm taking humidity out of the equation because a warm tub of water will basically give me as much as I want. I'm really only thinking of how fresh air moves.



You canโ€™t take humidity out of the thought experiment as that is why the holes are the way they are.

The sealed environment with the humidity/evaporation rising creates a negative effect which is what pulls air IN THROUGH THE BOTTOM and circulates out top.  Easiest way to explain

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
    #29635261 -

I guess what I meant by taking humidity out of the equation was by having an almost unlimited amount I'm not restricted to the traditional sizes of holes.

I also know that it's heat rising that pulls in air from the bottom, I'm just wondering why we always restricted it on top. Is that done for humidity reasons or do we need that restriction to make the airflow process work?

More than likely the answer will be try a bunch of things and see what happens I'm just curious about the mechanics of it all.


--------------------
I've got skills, they don't know where to use me
I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
    #29635264 -

PhenoDreamers said:
Use a sterile cotton swab dude. You don't want to stab the baggie it came in.



:whathesaid: This, but if you gotta got rogue with it, searching "dermatology kit" or "pimple popper kit" on amazon, temu, aliexpress, etc will get you something like this. They can be had in induction-compatible alloys for under $10.



They look super neat but most of them aren't that useful. Tweezers are nice for pulling myc samples, and the pokers are good for bag holes. But I suppose they could do a smash wedge.

mobyhat said:


...I needed to put cake in the fridge during 20 days, because hollydays and leave my home; now only have this...have to do with put the cake in the fridge to pause frutification??



If I'm reading this right, yes, you can put it in the fridge. I'd harvest all of the mushrooms on it first, and put it in some kind of bag with some FAE holes. It's a bit of a gamble but I wouldn't count on it.


Shroomy Steve said:


4 days after break and shake. Any good? Thanks.



:chefskiss:pristine


PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Is there some trick to air movement that having more holes on the bottom and fewer up top that forces air to be drawn in from the bottom? Would putting more holes up top spoil that?

The reason I ask is because I'm thinking about redoing my JCM into a passive water tub like Noah's. It would help to know why we put holes where we put them.




I thought there was a diagram in the ez dial thread but I'm not seeing it. still, there's good info there.

What you said is exactly right, as I understand it. Any biological activity (including mycelium just being alive and doing stuff) creates some heat (compost piles are warm in the middle, etc). This heat rises, creating a mild vacuum, and having low holes means that rising action will pull in outside air to replace it on its way up. This clears things like CO2 which are a bit heavier than air and would otherwise accumulate near the surface and suffocate. Having high holes gives that rising air somewhere to escape so the loop can continue. Offsetting them on the different sides helps draw this action across the cake horizontally / cover more evenly. I think if they were on the top of the lid but still near the edge / the same side they'd normally be on, that's probably pretty equivalent? But if they're eg in the center that might not draw air as evenly and create high/low spots. But that's starting to get above my pay grade.


--------------------
.~`  ๐”… ๐”ž ๐”ค ๐”ข ๐”ฉ  ๐Ÿฅฏ  ๐”… ๐”ฆ ๐”ฑ ๐”ข ๐”ฐ  `~.
:salute: CAKE WARS III STARTS SEPTEMBER 1st :salute:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
    #29635265 -

More restriction would keep humidity higher. In my kinda climate I keep my holes double layered so the humidity isnโ€™t dumping out. If you donโ€™t live in a dry climate, you can get away with less and allow for more air flow as the humidity wonโ€™t be sucked into the dry outside climate.

So with more holes on top, youโ€™re gonna allow for more opportunity for the humidity to escape. Depending on grow situations, you may or may not want that.

Iโ€™ve only made one water tub cause Iโ€™ve only tried BRF once recently, but even with double layers all around I still had to mist once a day due to my living environment.

The water will produce humidity yes, but we are also taking out the heat created by the mycelium doing its biological function in the soil

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
    #29635269 -

Great answer man thanks a lot!


--------------------
I've got skills, they don't know where to use me
I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belintaf] * 1
    #29635270 -

Belintaf said:
Is that condensation on the cake relatively normal? Or is the substrate too wet?



All five cakes show the same condensation.

I prepared it using the classic 2:1:1 ratio. It's on its second day of consolidation. During colonization it didn't show this condensation, until it fully covered the outside.

I understand it could be due to the mycelium's metabolic activity, but honestly I'm not really clear on it.



That looks wetter than it should be but also clean. Metabolites are usually stress response, and are redbull colored (clear yellow-amber-ish). Bacterial liquid is cloudy or more blotchy.

If that water wasn't there before, it makes me wonder if the whole block is shrinking and creating space, squeezing liquid out etc. What's your FAE/ventillation like on there? If there's a lot, that could explain it. Or it's just mixed a bit wet. Regardless, it invites trouble, but it isn't trouble in itself. Looks fine to me.



Here's some tidal wave from halloween of last year. Oops.

You can see some dried metabolites at the bottom for color reference.


--------------------
.~`  ๐”… ๐”ž ๐”ค ๐”ข ๐”ฉ  ๐Ÿฅฏ  ๐”… ๐”ฆ ๐”ฑ ๐”ข ๐”ฐ  `~.
:salute: CAKE WARS III STARTS SEPTEMBER 1st :salute:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 5
    #29635271 -

The problem or the reason I never put holes in the lid on my mono design is cause then I can't stack the tubs.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | | 3873 | 3874 | 3875 | 3876 | 3877 | 3878 | 3879 | 3880 | 3881 | 3882 | 3883 | 3884 | 3885 | 3886 | 3887 | 3888 | 3889 | 3890 | 3891 | 3892 | 3893 | | Last >

Shop: Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* quick question, finished colonizing? usefulidiot 1,845 1 04/06/03 04:31 PM
by kindkesey
* Quick Question grateful_head 1,228 2 08/18/01 01:40 PM
by Billyblastoff
* New to the boards, and a quick question to start ! Anonymous 1,821 4 03/11/02 01:18 AM
by 2shrewmen
* Quick Question
( 1 2 all )
Vizzerdrix 00 2,098 22 06/26/02 07:11 PM
by Vizzerdrix 00
* some quick questions about my treasure coasts alf 3,826 19 11/15/01 11:54 PM
by Anonymous
* Quick Question needs quick answer Wheedhead! 1,170 2 01/19/03 07:06 AM
by Wheedhead!
* quick question SuppaFly 1,038 1 09/18/02 02:41 PM
by mickey_rourke
* Re: Quick Question
( 1 2 all )
Anonymous 4,517 22 06/14/00 03:46 AM
by hitterg

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, the_chosen_one, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
1,130,272 topic views. 28 members, 217 guests and 76 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.075 seconds spending 0.048 seconds on 16 queries.