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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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No matter what nature could afford us, it is still subject to market controls. No case can be made in favor of migrants of any quality, under artificial scarcity of qualifications, jobs, and needful resources.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
'did this happen?'

Yes, lmao.  Get off tik tok



tik tok, perish the thought:teabird:


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Lynnch said:
Nah, folks like you are just sociopaths, engaged in suicidal isolationism.



Recognizing a pattern of self-righteous interference at the taxpayers expense
is the opposite of suicidal isolation.
Lynnch said:
Luckily we have some recent examples of how dumb that is.




You have a couple but thats about it.

Lynnch said:
Dumbfucks: "Why are we paying millions of dollars to grow worms in some other country?"
OOPS NOW WE HAVE A SCREWWORM INFESTATION HERE, instead of millions its gonna take billions of dollars to fight and cover the damages.



I dont understand this.  Did this happen or somthing?

Lynnch said:
Dumbfucks: "Why are we paying to fight ebola and aids in other countries?"
SO WE DONT HAVE EBOLA AND AIDS HERE, DISEASES SPREAD ACROSS BORDERS.




Id call that an outlier case. Of course we’re going to give a hand in that situation.

Ill concede that point to you though

Lynnch said:
We are not alone in the world. We are connected to the world, we affect the world, the world affects us.


Certain countries have been overpopulating at our expense for a while.

Lynnch said:
"Just let em die, just let em starve" is not good enough.



Overpopulating them until theyre reliant on us for food is even worse.

Lynnch said:
You hate immigrants?


I have no problem with the legal migrants.  I have a problem with illegal aliens.

Lynnch said:
Migrants migrate because they are starving and thirsty. ((And they are starving and thirsty because of how our imperial system has exploited them))


they are starving because we gave them food and water and now theyre overcrowded.

Lynnch said:
You take the food and water away and then act surprised when they break your door down. Or, you give them seeds and build a well.



Theres no food and water because there was too many of them. Giving them food and water insures that there will still be an overcrowding situation.
If you want to show them how, whatever.  Build it for them and theyll never do it themselves.





SO HELP BUILD BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE COUNTRIES YOU FUCKING NONCE. Otherwise, it's like we're systematically killing children.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008] * 1
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durian_2008 said:
lowbrow said:
Were supposed to pay for the survival of 15 million people in another country?

Fuck dat.



DontFearThePeepr said:
Uhh, yeah actually. That would be the common sense choice. Unless you happen to be a literal fucking monster creeping among us.



There are people who are called pathological altruists or telescopic philanthropists, who are generous to the point of giving until it hurts. That's arguably an example of the Freudian death urge. I think, that neurotic kind of person might be calmed, paced, and encouraged to find a useful outlet in service to others.

There are life paths like that. It's benevolent.

:shrug:

Other professions require risk or hard numbers or cannot be held to primary aggressor doctrine. You weanies would be putting innocent lives in danger.




Tbh, this is actually a good point. These type of people you're describing don't seem to have much of an outlet here because "doing good things that will actually matter" is simply not an option under the current system that we're stuck living under. I really don't know what possible solution there could be for that either.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Imagine literally creating the conditions that are killing people and then calling it natural selection.



That's what it is, though.  Selection by human conduct is still natural.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
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Many people are self loathers or have a suicidal ideation. They are not sharing a moment, because it feels good or because it would really matter; they're running down the clock.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008] * 1
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Enlil said:
ballsalsa said:
Imagine literally creating the conditions that are killing people and then calling it natural selection.



That's what it is, though.  Selection by human conduct is still natural.




While I agree with you here to an extent, I'm not inclined to think that this type of setup is "natural". I don't think this world has ever provided us with our natural state of being. I think it's taken a very long time to condition us into the way that we are now, and at the current moment we're standing at a precipice of whether we'll actually be able to evolve into the future or self-destruct in our collective ignorance. Failure here wouldn't exactly mean the end of society but it would be a major setback in our potential and progress as a species. The ultimate point of a movement like this is to cause as much suffering as it can, like it's sort of feeding itself that way...

Just my opinion anyways :shrug:

I am, of course, open to discussion lol.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
Many people are self loathers or have a suicidal ideation. They are not sharing a moment, because it feels good or because it would really matter; they're running down the clock.



What do you mean by running down the clock?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
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durian_2008 said:
Many people are self loathers or have a suicidal ideation. They are not sharing a moment, because it feels good or because it would really matter; they're running down the clock.



DontFearThePeepr said:
What do you mean by running down the clock?



For instance, some people think that fish which swim upstream are vigorous, in the sense of being powerful totems.

I was surprised to see migratory butterflies going against the wind.

What if they are in misery and want it to end?

Maybe, if that masochistic death urge can be channeled, you get some version of managerial feudalism or the Japanese maid cafe. You are scarred for life by boarding school but short of being human wreckage at Kensington. :shrug: Sorry, not sorry.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
managerial feudalism



Lmao, that was pretty funny.

At the moment, I'm thinking it must be a very slow process for this type of thing to develop. People seem to have a lot of animosity that is innately ingrained into their behaviors. Even people who are close will have a habit for pushing away from each other. Also, the human death drive is prevalent in all of us. We always have subconsciously self-destructive tendencies because of this.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
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DontFearThePeepr said:
SO HELP BUILD BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE COUNTRIES YOU FUCKING NONCE. Otherwise, it's like we're systematically killing children.



:nazimelt:


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
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Agent Smith said:
...human beings define their reality through suffering and misery.




Usually.

It's chaotic or structured.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008]
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DontFearThePeepr said:
Also, the human death drive is prevalent in all of us.



If you're going to find purpose in some cause other than yourself, may it be a benevolent dictatorship, may your yoke be light, and have a long life. That can be a force for good.

Some people are masochists for punishment and go seeking it out, wherever they can find it.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008] * 1
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durian_2008 said:
Some people are masochists for punishment and go seeking it out, wherever they can find it.



Yeah, you're right. That seems like a mental illness thing to me and should also be a high priority in terms of social issues.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
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I think, treat them gently.

Don't make them leaders.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
I think, treat them gently.

Don't make them leaders.



Agreed.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
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Two more dead American soldiers in the Middle East, while Trump played golf.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
Two more dead American soldiers in the Middle East, while Trump played golf.



Just remember its better for him to do nothing on a golf playing day vs "work day" where most live on earth hangs on the balance.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
ballsalsa said:
Imagine literally creating the conditions that are killing people and then calling it natural selection.



That's what it is, though.  Selection by human conduct is still natural.



What load of bullshit are you spewing out now? Like the holocaust or any genocide is some kind of natural selection. :omgstop: I hope you're being sarcastic.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Dekozn]
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He's being literal.  Humans are natural, therefore human behavior is natural.  However, for the purpose of this topic there has long been a distinction made between natural selection and artificial selection by human preference

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