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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kunta Kente] * 7
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I cut a bunch of foil at the kitchen table, put them in a jar, and sterilize them in the oven when I do glass petris.

Then when it's time to take a print, I pull a piece of folded foil out of the jar in a clean environment, and take a print.

It's not sterile because of the cap.  But everything else is clean and then I don't have to worry about wiping things down with alcohol or trying to use the clean side etc.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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I like this, I have had much trouble trying to get the clean side of the foil up inside the SAB.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 3
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Learned from a friend of mine (Pandelorian on YouTube, before Google killed his channel).

And I really like that I don't have to worry about cross contamination with the cardboard that foil comes in.  Or fiddling around with trying to cut it in a clean environment.

Cut off twenty or more pieces of foil, each large enough to hold three pan prints with a fold.  Fold so that the clean inside doesn't get cross contaminated when I pull them out of the jar.  Sterilize.  And I'm set for awhile :smile:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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Thinking about trying out PF tek. Would a kind user point me in the direction of a modern, comprehensive PF tek writeup please? Thank you guys.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Learned from a friend of mine (Pandelorian on YouTube, before Google killed his channel).

And I really like that I don't have to worry about cross contamination with the cardboard that foil comes in.  Or fiddling around with trying to cut it in a clean environment.

Cut off twenty or more pieces of foil, each large enough to hold three pan prints with a fold.  Fold so that the clean inside doesn't get cross contaminated when I pull them out of the jar.  Sterilize.  And I'm set for awhile :smile:


I used to watch that dude’s channel and was fucking pissed when they took it down. He had all kinds of techniques like that, which were so simple and effective, but never crossed my mind. I actually almost bought a box of horse poo from him just to toss him a few bucks and to make the USG ship literal shit. I didn’t need it; I’ve never even grown pans! :lol:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boceephus_Jones] * 2
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boceephus_Jones said:
Thinking about trying out PF tek. Would a kind user point me in the direction of a modern, comprehensive PF tek writeup please? Thank you guys.


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086#24179086


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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1. I am using BRF PF-tek 4oz glass jars. When I Pressure Cook for 45 mins, the rice looks overly browned (overcooked/overheated), and I also worry about dehydration also occurring.

Can I PC for 45 mins, then wait 30,60 mins, then vent the excess steam out, to reduce heat exposure? Compared to waiting 8 hours before venting and opening it? This would result in less total heat exposure.

Other experiments,
PC 45 mins, then vent right after it's done. Let sit 8 hours before opening it. Venting out most of the hot steam.

*I've PCed 60 mins too, and this resulted in a similar result to the 45 mins PC*.

Compared to my Steam Sterilization, the PC'ed jars look browner, more overcooked, but I got colonization successfully on them, but I would prefer less dehydration, less overcooking if that's happening.



2. PF tek pot steaming method, a lot of pots I have found, and I bought like 7 so far, either tend to have a leaky lid, boil dry, etc.

What is perfection for this tek? Can someone show me?
I have tried vegetable steamers with steamer racks, but the lids are loose and they boil dry usually around 90 minutes. I have tried canner pots, but the lids are leaky too, even if they don't boil dry. I've had success with the both, but I really just want to find something perfect.

Lid, tight, not leaky. Lid not spewing steam and hot water all over the stove. Lid not rocking and shaking a bunch.

Can someone show me a link to a Pot that works perfectly, for this tek? probably a steamer or canning pot.

Thanks!

Edited by EmeraldDream20 (03/07/26 05:19 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EmeraldDream20] * 1
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What kind of pressure cooker you got?
:gooby:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind]
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ModularMind said:
What kind of pressure cooker you got?
:gooby:



Nesco Electric Smart Canner.

Canning: High Pressure mode, 15psi green valve.

The actual "pressure cooking" mode doesn't do the 10 minutes venting at the beginning, so I think the proper mode is Canning:High Pressure. reaches 15 psi along when using the green 15psi valve.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EmeraldDream20] * 1
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Yeah. I thought so.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EmeraldDream20] * 3
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EmeraldDream20 said:
Other experiments,
PC 45 mins, then vent right after it's done. Let sit 8 hours before opening it. Venting out most of the hot steam.


No. No venting at all after running a pressure cooker cycle. It should have no steam pressure at all before messing with it.

Force venting after it runs, especially immediately after, would create a very forceful vacuum inside any cavity in the vessel. Even if you have a filter patched hole on a lid it would suck down hard on that, which could compromise the filter. It's just really not good to do.

Opening after 30 to 60m is no issue at all. All the pressure should be relieved by then and you just have hot jars. It shouldn't 'vent' at all. You don't want to rapid cool them (again, that creates a pressure differential which causes the jars to suck in outside air), but removing them from the pot and letting them cool in the air is fine.


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~Agar~ 1000mL water = 1000g water. use ~1% agar...1% of 1000g is 10g.  For cubes, use between 1-2% nutes (10-20g). For pans use 0.5% nutes (5g).

Everything I have typed is purely fiction, and is purely for personal amusement.
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Edited by Kunta Kente (03/07/26 05:34 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kunta Kente] * 1
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Dude’s a puppet.
Made multiple threads about this and won’t listen to logic. :shrug:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kunta Kente]
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Kunta Kente said:
EmeraldDream20 said:
Other experiments,
PC 45 mins, then vent right after it's done. Let sit 8 hours before opening it. Venting out most of the hot steam.


No. No venting at all after running a pressure cooker cycle. It should have no steam pressure at all before messing with it.

Force venting after it runs, especially immediately after, would create a very forceful vacuum inside any cavity in the vessel. Even if you have a filter patched hole on a lid it would suck down hard on that, which could compromise the filter. It's just really not good to do.

Opening after 30 to 60m is no issue at all. All the pressure should be relieved by then and you just have hot jars. It shouldn't 'vent' at all. You don't want to rapid cool them (again, that creates a pressure differential which causes the jars to suck in outside air), but removing them from the pot and letting them cool in the air is fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Blizzloo]
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I have a really aggressive Jack Frost culture, heavy fucking pinner.
Problem is that they stayed squat, dense af and were pretty much a solid mat of pain in the ass to harvest little fruits.
I don’t know if the member I got them from selected them that way or if it was environmental.

I ran them at 1:4 (1:3 with a :1 pseudocasing)

So my QQ is,
If I ran them at like 1:6 , could that help produce larger and not so dense?
Less well fed mycelium competing for higher moisture is my thought process..


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Soloist]
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I’d probably try more surface area if it’s an aggressive pinner


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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It was in a 33qt mono.




Maybe more FAE?

I mean I pulled 2 zips from the first flush so I know at worst I can pull volume. If I cant figure it out I could always go shoe box with this culture. Part of the issue was the maneuvering in the tub.


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Edited by Soloist (03/07/26 10:55 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Soloist]
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Stripes top pseudo uses a 64qt mono with those ratios you stated.

The end result from his thread was 1:4 mixed with grain and the the remaining :2 QTs for the top pseudo. 

I think you’re on the right track with more surface area. My sig grow pic is using that tech and got massive pinset and pretty tall guys for ABV first flush.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Second flush of GT. Only got two shrooms and they started shriveling before the veil broke. Any advice? My substrate is also shrinking so I'm guessing it's underhydrated.

I followed Bod's Easy AF Harvesting TEK https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24198162. Only had a small container so it was full of water for only a few minutes. Does it need to soak for hours? And want to confirm I should be able to just neglect after the soak, no misting needed?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boceephus_Jones]
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boceephus_Jones said:
Thinking about trying out PF tek. Would a kind user point me in the direction of a modern, comprehensive PF tek writeup please? Thank you guys.



Check it out

The official PF TEK cultivation thread


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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It's definitely dry. everything's dry


Yeah put some water in it for a couple hours.

Watch it see how much of that water it soaks up.

After a couple a couple hours you can dump it out.

Make sure you have it inside of some sort of fruiting chamber. that will help keep the proper microclimate and humidity and help to  not expel so much of  its moisture...


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