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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog]
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I have very rarely seen rhizo growth on my plates (even with x7x+) and oftentimes when they get sent to grain i start seeing rhizo growth both in the jar and after they spawn. Is this be from my agar recipie? Im using 10 g agar (2%), 7.5-20 g LME and 500 mL.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DiscoDave]
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is there a way to bookmark a thread without replying in it?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: noomer] * 2
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Yes. At the bottom of the first post (or any reply you want to go back to) click the finger with the bow tied on it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DiscoDave] * 1
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20g of malt to 500g of water is quite high nutritionally, which can discourage rhizomorphic growth. (It's also not necessary to use that much, for any mushroom mycelium I know of at least.)

Even at 2%, my x7x+ cultures have all shown rhizomorphic growth - but not all cultures necessarily will, and it's not really an indicator, it just looks more obviously different from contaminants.

Dropping nutrition in the agar is your best bet if rhizomorphic is what you're after. Leave the agar powder at 2%, decrease the malt extract to 1% or 1.5%.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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That was my mistake butterfingering the keyboard, what i meant to write was 7.5-10 g :rofl: but thanks, I will try and experiment down to 1 %

Edited by DiscoDave (02/08/26 01:09 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DiscoDave]
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Cakes have been in the fruiting chamber for about 1 week. Some are pinning while others are just growing puffy white dots. They came from a hillbilly spore syringe.








Edited by Bonsaiboi (02/08/26 01:23 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: flapping_bird] * 1
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flapping_bird said:
sure, that’s fine to do. If i were to do it, I would, inside a SAB or in front of a flow hood: by hand, tear the cake in half, top to bottom (or however it works out) and use a sterilized scalpel to take a small sample of mycelium from the freshly exposed interior of the cake and place that on agar.

Maybe do 2 plates that way. You’ll likely get a clean culture on agar that way. In a few days, if you start to see contamination on the plate (like wet goo), no worries, just take another transfer to a fresh plate and grow it out.

Good luck!



FB: I will give this a try - thanks for the tip; simple and effective as with most things shroomery.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Nichrome said:
Cakes are a very good skill to have with a lot of applications, but for culture work you want to practice your sterile technique ie agar, lc, and whatnot...



ok dope thank u. i've got a pretty good handle on agar work, i might do cakes in the future but agar-oats-coir is good for me for now thxx:bunnypeace:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: squigglez]
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What causes mushroom spores to germinate at different speeds? I had a variety of germination speeds with different types. ATL7 was growing visibly in 72 hours. Panaeolus bisporus took over 5 days. My cubensis seem to take about 5 days but get fuzzy by 4 usually.

Also would it be likely you can get growth by just scraping some spores into grain? I get clean growth on agar almost every time with spores.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 1
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I kinda doubt anyone in this forum can give you an actual reason. Life is analog, lots of environmental and genetic factors affect its behavior.

Re. clean print to grain, you can do it and if the print is clean you might have great success...but why take the chance on both wasting grain and not having a culture to go back to later?

(To be fair, some of the greats like fahtster do this or at least used to. Usually to small jars if I recall correctly, which are grown out in ziplocs to find interesting mushrooms to clone.)

Edited by Phaethon (02/08/26 06:42 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hidingbush]
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hidingbush said:

Just don’t get too upset or discouraged when you eventually go to wrap the parafilm around the plate and a transfer slides all around.  lol.



I've had good luck with cutting into the receiving agar first and when I cut the transfer I push it down into that hole. It sticks right there, could be lack of many attempts but I've got good luck doing that!</font></font>



Might have to give that a go.

I just usually pull too hard at the end of the parafilm wrap and the transfer slams around every blue moon. Lol

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon] * 1
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Phaethon said:
I kinda doubt anyone in this forum can give you an actual reason. Life is analog, lots of environmental and genetic factors affect its behavior.

Re. clean print to grain, you can do it and if the print is clean you might have great success...but why take the chance on both wasting grain and not having a culture to go back to later?

(To be fair, some of the greats like fahtster do this or at least used to. Usually to small jars if I recall correctly, which are grown out in ziplocs to find interesting mushrooms to clone.)



I been doing MS and it produces a wide variety of mushrooms. The T1 plate produced this sized mushrooms on the second flush my T2 plate got contamination and right on the thick rope part. I ended up transferring a smaller fuzzy growth away from contamination and ended up with this they where closer to the same size as each other, slighty more potent and slightly smaller.

I haven't taken many clones yet because I prefer playing with lots of cultures over improving one culture.

Im currently just deciding what cultures I like best I really like Panaeolus but find them tedious the small whispy mycelium is hard to tell if ready to spawn in grain and the severe bruising that doesn't fully go away is annoying.

Forgot to mention I got a strain on agar that still sectors mildly even though its an isolated cubensis strain. I don't understand MS vs Isolate mushroom but its interesting how the same strains has a wide variety of mushrooms.


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Edited by CaptainTrips420 (02/08/26 08:50 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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CaptainTrips420 said:
Forgot to mention I got a strain on agar that still sectors mildly even though its an isolated cubensis strain. I don't understand MS vs Isolate mushroom but its interesting how the same strains has a wide variety of mushrooms.



What makes you think that because a strain variant is isolated that it won't sector?

Sectoring refers to the formation of "sectors" or distinct regions within a dikaryotic fungal mycelium where one of the two nuclear types is lost or excluded. This can happen through various mechanisms, often as a result of competitive interactions between the two genetically distinct nuclei, leading to a loss of genetic diversity within that sector. The result is a mycelial network with mixed and then potentially separated regions of the original two parental nuclear types.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog] * 1
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Arkyhog said:
Libertycap97 said:
Hey Shroomers,

How long would a quart of rye last in the fridge after its been sterilised?

Thank you kindly :grin:



When stored in a modified jar with a filter or an unmodified jar with a secure lid, the contents can last for months, provided they are properly sterilized. Additionally, refrigeration is not necessary for long-term storage if you prefer not to use it. Personally, I keep oats on a shelf for months before using them. Just ensure that they are kept in a jar with a reliable lid, and you should be all set.




:whathesaid:

I do exactly the same.  No fridge.  I make them in bulk and the site for months. Never have any issues.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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Splittinghairs said:
hidingbush said:

Just don’t get too upset or discouraged when you eventually go to wrap the parafilm around the plate and a transfer slides all around.  lol.



I've had good luck with cutting into the receiving agar first and when I cut the transfer I push it down into that hole. It sticks right there, could be lack of many attempts but I've got good luck doing that!</font></font>



Might have to give that a go.

I just usually pull too hard at the end of the parafilm wrap and the transfer slams around every blue moon. Lol</font>



There are shrink wraps that will seal off petri dishes.  These are for 60mm dishes.  Place them over your petri dish, hit with hair dryer or heat gun.  It'll shrink around your dish.  No lateral forces will be applied to the dish causing the sample to slam around... Profit

https://a.co/d/0coYb8Yq



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xhooliganx]
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xhooliganx said:
Place them over your petri dish, hit with hair dryer or heat gun.



I wouldn't blow unfiltered air at an unsealed petri dish, personally.  Do these things seal pretty well before you shrink them?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: andymc]
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A lot of the rabbit poop I've collected has white hairs growing out of it, almost like roots, or even shrooms (I don't think so).

I'm guessing I can't use them now? I was going to try some experimenting with them but IDK if I can use them now. I had them in a zip loc bag that was open.

I'm guessing I need to pasteurize these immediately next time? These poops aren't at the top of my experiments but I was looking forward to running a few jars.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tultedspoon] * 2
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Hmm, what manner of white, "hairy" stuff might be growing from a turd?  :eek:  Maybe it's cotton candy.  Might be worth giving it a little taste.  Discovery awaits!

:omgstop:
Actually this rabbit poop saga is rather funny, do go on :popcorn:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
If you put a cup of Coir in first and then pack it down it's still a cup of coir it doesn't matter if you packed it.

Just because it's packed down and now only measures to maby 1/4cup. In the container  The volume of is still the same.

100 lb of stones doesn't weigh more than 100 lb of feathers even if  the feathers can be packed in more.

It dosnt change.  I mean sure if you add more then it changes..


Stick to arkys and piggys advice it's golden.




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But the ratio is based on volume, right? Not weight. Sorry, but I'll switch to milliliters because I don't quite understand cups :smile:
If I'm supposed to use 1500 ml of feathers and 500ml of stones, my question is whether feathers should be loose or packed. 1500 ml of loose feathers will weigh significantly less than packed ones.


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Edited by Blizzloo (02/09/26 05:32 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tultedspoon] * 1
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Was the poop from a white rabbit?

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