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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RhyzoPhreak] * 1
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So whats the deal with this, ladies and gents? This is at least my 10th attempt to top fruit a sus jar. Coir added over the weekend and it's done absolutely nothing. This is more or less how it goes every time. It's gonna hang out for like a month and then mold. Ive never once gotten a cube to grow off a top fruited jar and Im starting to think I've been trolled.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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I don't know.  Ive top fruited countless jars/bags.  And 90% of the time it works like a charm.

I did realize initially I was putting too thick of a top layer. Like about an inch or so and that would take forever to colonize and pin.

When I cut that in half my results were instantly way better.


LOL maybe whatever there's is mold  is showing up  prevalent in that jar and it's just too much to handle for the time it might take to get through the thickness of the layer you added.

That would just be a guess. if I had to.


However that would mean that  would have to be the case with every jar you've ever tried. And I'm inclined to think that that's not the case so :shrug:

Srry bud. Wish I had somthin more helpful for you.



Ps.  I suggest trying a jar that looks a little bit more bacterial than maybe possibly moldy and a little bit thinner of the top layer and see if it works out for you.

If the jar is completely fine. no mold or bacteria..

it should work either way. just take longer with a thicker layer.

I'm talking like a week or two just for that layer to colonize before you even start to see pins or anything of the sort.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 4
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ThurmanMurman said:


So whats the deal with this, ladies and gents? This is at least my 10th attempt to top fruit a sus jar. Coir added over the weekend and it's done absolutely nothing. This is more or less how it goes every time. It's gonna hang out for like a month and then mold. Ive never once gotten a cube to grow off a top fruited jar and Im starting to think I've been trolled.



Give it a jolt of electricity so it can get its redox game back on track. Jump start tek.

Got a tazer or a bbq ignitor, or an electric fence charger?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Nichrome said:
ThurmanMurman said:


So whats the deal with this, ladies and gents? This is at least my 10th attempt to top fruit a sus jar. Coir added over the weekend and it's done absolutely nothing. This is more or less how it goes every time. It's gonna hang out for like a month and then mold. Ive never once gotten a cube to grow off a top fruited jar and Im starting to think I've been trolled.



Give it a jolt of electricity so it can get its redox game back on track. Jump start tek.

Got a tazer or a bbq ignitor, or an electric fence charger?


Does he make little joke or is this wizard level troubleshooting? I gotta be sure...brb!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Maybe a TENS or iontophoresis unit to kick start that jar?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
Nichrome said:
ThurmanMurman said:


So whats the deal with this, ladies and gents? This is at least my 10th attempt to top fruit a sus jar. Coir added over the weekend and it's done absolutely nothing. This is more or less how it goes every time. It's gonna hang out for like a month and then mold. Ive never once gotten a cube to grow off a top fruited jar and Im starting to think I've been trolled.



Give it a jolt of electricity so it can get its redox game back on track. Jump start tek.

Got a tazer or a bbq ignitor, or an electric fence charger?


Does he make little joke or is this wizard level troubleshooting? I gotta be sure...brb!


Dude is dead ass.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 2
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3 words.
Copper
Zinc
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind]
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@Cronicr...

How do you hang your spawn bags and how big are they?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG] * 6
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Shameless cross post from Cult thread. More of a thank you to the TC’s who lurk in here and kick me in the ding dong when needed! Got everything hammered out and am grateful for your advice and thank you!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG] * 1
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DV8DUG said:
@Cronicr...

How do you hang your spawn bags and how big are they?


Really anyway ya want but what I used to do was

Do your first normal seal leaving a half inch or so for another seal ( second seal could go below the first one it doesn't matter too much
Then fold it back a little and make a second seal creating a pocket for string to remove n through



Also t3 unicorn bags


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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Pretty fucking cool. Thank you.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
Where would you put a old lions mane grow bag to try and have it grow onto some wood?
Can I just set it on top of a stump or should I like dig a hole into the wood and try and shove bits of it in there?

Someone told me to just smash a hole into a log and stuff some of it in it.

Is that the best method?


Not from experience but from reading Stamets GGMM, he recommends inoculating logs one of two ways. Chainsaw to make a bunch of gashes that you then mash sawdust spawn into, or colonized dowels driven into drilled holes (aka plug spawn). My guess is that for a spent fruiting block, the chainsaw gash method would probably work better as long as you can break up the substrate enough.

But I'd bet (again without experience to back it up) you'd have better luck burying the block in wood chips, and save the logs for fresh sawdust or plug spawn. (You can make sawdust spawn with hydrated hardwood fuel pellets, or plug spawn with sterilized soaked wood dowels, either one inoculated with a bit of grain spawn.) Burying spent blocks for bonus mushrooms is discussed in GGMM. I've never really had the space for it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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When do you guys use water agar?

Right now I'm thinking spores (LC and prints) and clones. But is it worth it for transfers from contaminated plates? Right now I'm using the cabin for those. Maybe do a cabin in water agar?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Peleus] * 1
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TBH I have never tried using it. I have always used the standard LME recipe for my normal plates. For spore plates i use a potato and dextrose recipe as it is softer and more moist. I think it really helps with stubborn spores. I use my standard plates for Cabin work.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Peleus] * 1
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I occasionally use water agar for cabins, but what I really like water agar for is wild clones, works sooo good :awesomenod:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Is water agar just what it sounds like? Agar and water with no other nutrient?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 3
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That is correct.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
Is water agar just what it sounds like? Agar and water with no other nutrient?


Here's the tek I've been using to make it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 3
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I'm sitting here wishing that there was a grain jar envy thread similar to the Agar envy thread lol. Here are my recently shaken jars, most of which I think are looking pretty damn good and almost ready to go to bulk. I'm posting them here to to get some feedback and opinions. I don't think I see any evidence of contamination anywhere. I do think they look a little dry but there's nothing I can do about that now.  How do I know when they're fully ready to send?

First photo is all six. Then there are photos of three jars at a time front and back.  Thanks for your help!






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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana]
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I send them as long as everything is being touched. Sometimes it refuses to fully colinze a couple grains completely but will be touching them half covering them. I haven't gotten contamination the two times I spawned like that the other time I broke and shook just to be certain it didn't grow for 5 days like that.


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