Splittinghairs said:

^ see I’m trying to be positive and hope that day rest between PC and inoculation might just have some moisture that needed redistribution.

But usually clumps of wet are a bad sign of contam.

But let it ride for 5 days and I think confirmation will come from it.

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DiscoDave said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

Curious to what kind of jar you are running your grain in?

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This is run in a PP5 container with a hole cut out in the lid and with a filter disc on top. There is a local vendor selling these premade which made it easy to get started and they stack really nicely in a cupboard when not in use. Attentive people might recognize these containers/lids from some of Kloakk's recent post as he has been experimenting with them as well.

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shroomerhumor said:

xsanriu said:

Two bins from earlier have made no progress in a week except one little side pin. I have jars ready to go. Should I dump the bins and do a bleach blast at this point?

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Show clear pictures of the whole substrate surfaces. What date is "earlier" and what date did you make the tubs?

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AZ Starman2112 said:

I can’t say that it’s not that I’m not attentive. However, I don’t pay attention to every little thing Kloakk does (that’s a lie Kloakk, I love you and I spy on you all the time 😘) or any other cultivator. I have never seen those, and was just asking a question, not criticizing the use of it. I will never criticize anyone’s use or experimentation using different things to achieve a result. It is how we learn.

I will though say that buying grain jars from vendors leaves a lot or room for failure. I speak from personal experience, as well as many others on this site. While it is a convenient way to start, nothing is better than making and controlling the process of making your own jars and failures in the jars themselves becomes low or close to zero.

In my personal opinion in thinking about this, I’d rather use glass as it doesn’t scratch, it’s easy to clean, doesn’t discolor, doesn’t melt or warp and with lids is pretty stackable. I actually save the small cardboard trays the Ball jars come in and restack them in those.

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No problem, didnt think it was negatively loaded anyway, just threw out an easter egg I prep my own grain but its just that the containers come with the lid modded.

Im planning on getting glass jars and plastic lids, but then I would have to use amazon and they ship expensive here. Afaik there is no good vendor for filters either, so I would have to order them from the US which I just havent gotten around to yet I started my first cult stuff in mid november by trying to clone some dried shrooms a friend purchased. Somehow that worked, and since then I have been lucky to get Kloakk's hand-me-downs with those sweet sweet domestic stamps

AZ Starman2112 said:

I can’t say that it’s not that I’m not attentive. However, I don’t pay attention to every little thing Kloakk does (that’s a lie Kloakk, I love you and I spy on you all the time 😘) or any other cultivator. I have never seen those, and was just asking a question, not criticizing the use of it. I will never criticize anyone’s use or experimentation using different things to achieve a result. It is how we learn.

I will though say that buying grain jars from vendors leaves a lot or room for failure. I speak from personal experience, as well as many others on this site. While it is a convenient way to start, nothing is better than making and controlling the process of making your own jars and failures in the jars themselves becomes low or close to zero.

In my personal opinion in thinking about this, I’d rather use glass as it doesn’t scratch, it’s easy to clean, doesn’t discolor, doesn’t melt or warp and with lids is pretty stackable. I actually save the small cardboard trays the Ball jars come in and restack them in those.

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Yeah, they don't come with grains, I asked to get them unmodified so I could RTV thick SFD's on them. Cult supply is so sparse here it's a joke, like 2 vendors with 4 gourmet options, 10 bags for 15 bucks and yeah it's a shit show.

DiscoDave said:

No problem, didnt think it was negatively loaded anyway, just threw out an easter egg I prep my own grain but its just that the containers come with the lid modded.

Im planning on getting glass jars and plastic lids, but then I would have to use amazon and they ship expensive here. Afaik there is no good vendor for filters either, so I would have to order them from the US which I just havent gotten around to yet I started my first cult stuff in mid november by trying to clone some dried shrooms a friend purchased. Somehow that worked, and since then I have been lucky to get Kloakk's hand-me-downs with those sweet sweet domestic stamps

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You can get jars here, 86mm is the same as ball wide mouth jars. Leak-proof PP5 lids you would have to get on Amazon, I've used these, they're really good, a little cheaper then the ball lids, but the best part is that they are always eligible for free shipping if you buy for 50 bucks or more. Amazon is part of VOEC so there is no additional cost other then what you pay on Amazon.

And if you want, I could send you a couple of 90mm  thick SFD's, should be enough for 18 lids. RTV you can get at Biltema

xsanriu said:

Tried posting the pics but they were too large

They went into tubs 11/25 and first pin showed 12/27. Then the base turned blue and it hasn't done much since. Other tub shows nothing.

I posted pics in this thread a week or so ago

shroomerhumor said:

xsanriu said:

Two bins from earlier have made no progress in a week except one little side pin. I have jars ready to go. Should I dump the bins and do a bleach blast at this point?

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Show clear pictures of the whole substrate surfaces. What date is "earlier" and what date did you make the tubs?

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Tried posting the pics but they were too large

They went into tubs 11/25 and first pin showed 12/27. Then the base turned blue and it hasn't done much since. Other tub shows nothing.

I posted pics in this thread a week or so ago

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Trying again

Kloakk said:

And if you want, I could send you a couple of 90mm  thick SFD's, should be enough for 18 lids. RTV you can get at Biltema

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As much as I appreciate it, its not really the price thats the main point, its just a my lazi ass not doing the bare minimum I will buy some this week and you all gotta hold me accountable.

Kloakk said:

I pay $15 for 256 stickers, I prefer the thick SFD's though and got a lifetime supply when I ordered, thank you for the offer though, appreciate it

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That’s cheaper than here!

AZ Starman2112 said:

Kloakk said:

I pay $15 for 256 stickers, I prefer the thick SFD's though and got a lifetime supply when I ordered, thank you for the offer though, appreciate it

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That’s cheaper than here!

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Probably because I always get enough things to get free shipping, because if I don't, it so expensive it's not even fun to cult

I just checked again, so the stickers would be $14.99 and shipping would be $16.26, so yeah more for shipping then for the stickers

AZ Starman2112 said:

DiscoDave said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

Curious to what kind of jar you are running your grain in?

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This is run in a PP5 container with a hole cut out in the lid and with a filter disc on top. There is a local vendor selling these premade which made it easy to get started and they stack really nicely in a cupboard when not in use. Attentive people might recognize these containers/lids from some of Kloakk's recent post as he has been experimenting with them as well.

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I can’t say that it’s not that I’m not attentive. However, I don’t pay attention to every little thing Kloakk does (that’s a lie Kloakk, I love you and I spy on you all the time 😘) or any other cultivator. I have never seen those, and was just asking a question, not criticizing the use of it. I will never criticize anyone’s use or experimentation using different things to achieve a result. It is how we learn.

I will though say that buying grain jars from vendors leaves a lot or room for failure. I speak from personal experience, as well as many others on this site. While it is a convenient way to start, nothing is better than making and controlling the process of making your own jars and failures in the jars themselves becomes low or close to zero.

In my personal opinion in thinking about this, I’d rather use glass as it doesn’t scratch, it’s easy to clean, doesn’t discolor, doesn’t melt or warp and with lids is pretty stackable. I actually save the small cardboard trays the Ball jars come in and restack them in those.

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Splittinghairs said:

Gonna say my bigger concern for using plastic as a grain jar is the reason we use shoeboxes/plastic for growing.

They are not perfect. They allow just enough air to come in and out. Pourous, uneven and all.

Which is exactly what I don’t want doing grain jars. I want full control.

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I wouldn't be concerned about plastic letting air in, it won't be contaminated air. I've brewed a lot of NEIPA(hoppy beer) in plastic fermenters and they get fucked with just a little O2, never had an issue, but jars are better no doubt, main reason is how it feels prying open the plastic lid in my SAB.

Splittinghairs said:

For sure. I know people like plastic for agar and obviously plates.

Now beer might have to be my next learn project………

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Brewing is great, can get expensive if hoppy beers is your thing though, going to need a pressure fermenter and kegs or else they will turn muddy brown within a week

Cream ale is super easy though and so good in summer

tryptkaloids said:

Yes cap, prinordia are white
Bag Shaker, it looks genetic not environmental (contam)

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tossed_salad said:

My first time working with myceliated grain. How long should I expect to see growth putting it on agar?

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